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I make image backups of my C: drive daily. Is it still a good idea to create restore points periodically? I've read a lot of posts indicating that these Windows restore points are more trouble than they're worth. I do have plenty of drive space to do so if it's useful.

Any words of wisdom? Many thanks.
 

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Creating daily images is a bit OTT in my opinion but that is irrelevant to your question.
Assuming you are creating images including the system and everything that is installed and not just user files like Documents/Photos etc. to an external storage device then that should totally cover all your needs. especially if you are doing it daily. There is no need for Windows restore points (RPs). Having said that this will not stop RPs being created by software other than Windows when they get installed or get updated.
 

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Creating daily images is a bit OTT in my opinion but that is irrelevant to your question.
Assuming you are creating images including the system and everything that is installed and not just user files like Documents/Photos etc. to an external storage device then that should totally cover all your needs. especially if you are doing it daily. There is no need for Windows restore points (RPs). Having said that this will not stop RPs being created by software other than Windows when they get installed or get updated.
Thanks for your response. Please forgive my ignorance, but can you please explain what "OTT" means? Thanks.
 

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Thanks for your response. Please forgive my ignorance, but can you please explain what "OTT" means? Thanks.
OTT means Over The Top.

And no, daily backups are NOT "Over the Top".

Whether to back up your PC daily, weekly, or monthly depends on what you have going on.

There are developers of apps/programs, photographers who manipulate their photos for publication, writers of the next Great American Novel, etc. Each of these entities will back up their work daily at the very least. Depending on the number of changes in a day's time, they may choose to back up more than once a day.

I teach Windows 10 to Senior Citizens at our local Center. I have to create tutorials for these folks. Yes, I make changes to my tutorials several times in a day, but because I back up my system daily, if a horrible crash occurs, I will stand to lose only a small portion of my work. So, daily is good. I can remember exactly what I was doing in a tutorial, while I probably wouldn't remember the ins and outs of the novel I may be working on. It differs with each individual and their PC.

Then there're the ones who only use their computers a few times a week. For those individuals, a weekly or monthly backup will suffice.

Case in point . . . one of my students said he doesn't have all that much on his laptop, so, maybe he doesn't need to back it up at all. I had to remind him that we're in a genealogy class together . . . what if the worst should happen and he lost all his genealogy research. Yuh huh! He quickly changed his mind on backing up his PC!

It's your decision on how often you back up your PC. Just be sure it's often enough that if the worst happens, you can recover. Daily is not OTT!
 

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OTT means Over The Top.

And no, daily backups are NOT "Over the Top".

Whether to back up your PC daily, weekly, or monthly depends on what you have going on.

There are developers of apps/programs, photographers who manipulate their photos for publication, writers of the next Great American Novel, etc. Each of these entities will back up their work daily at the very least. Depending on the number of changes in a day's time, they may choose to back up more than once a day.

I teach Windows 10 to Senior Citizens at our local Center. I have to create tutorials for these folks. Yes, I make changes to my tutorials several times in a day, but because I back up my system daily, if a horrible crash occurs, I will stand to lose only a small portion of my work. So, daily is good. I can remember exactly what I was doing in a tutorial, while I probably wouldn't remember the ins and outs of the novel I may be working on. It differs with each individual and their PC.

Then there're the ones who only use their computers a few times a week. For those individuals, a weekly or monthly backup will suffice.

Case in point . . . one of my students said he doesn't have all that much on his laptop, so, maybe he doesn't need to back it up at all. I had to remind him that we're in a genealogy class together . . . what if the worst should happen and he lost all his genealogy research. Yuh huh! He quickly changed his mind on backing up his PC!

It's your decision on how often you back up your PC. Just be sure it's often enough that if the worst happens, you can recover. Daily is not OTT!
Thank you for your response.
 

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As the others said/hinted too... if you're doing daily backups, then Restore Points aren't worth the time/space/effort as your backups will already cover you.

I do daily backups and just ignore Restore Points (some apps force you to create them at install) and when I feel really bored, I go in and delete all the old restore points to free up space since they aren't needed.
 

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As the others said/hinted too... if you're doing daily backups, then Restore Points aren't worth the time/space/effort as your backups will already cover you.

I do daily backups and just ignore Restore Points (some apps force you to create them at install) and when I feel really bored, I go in and delete all the old restore points to free up space since they aren't needed.
Exactly! It's been a long time, but Restore Point didn't work for the one time I needed it. :(
 

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Restore points are very hit-and-miss, sometimes they work, and sometimes they don't; A good backup strategy if far more reliable. Having said that, I used a restore point the other day and it worked perfectly.
 

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@Wynona - Yes you are correct. I was basing my statement on how I use my computer (where nothing changes very much) and I should not have assumed the OP was using their PC the same as I do. I stand by my comment as long as nothing or very little changes on a daily basis. I should have qualified my statement. Apologies for the omission.
 

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@Wynona - Yes you are correct. I was basing my statement on how I use my computer (where nothing changes very much) and I should not have assumed the OP was using their PC the same as I do. I stand by my comment as long as nothing or very little changes on a daily basis. I should have qualified my statement. Apologies for the omission.
Yep, that's the beauty of computers . . . you can do most anything and fill 'em up or leave 'em pretty empty. One person reads email and another person has a huge database, etc.

The changes I make on my computer aren't that drastic, but if I were to lose my Excel list of membership, I'd be hard pressed to recreate it.

And then there are Windows updates. We should all back up our PCs before each update; we never know what might go wrong; I dimly remember one of those back in Windows 10 . . . somehow it updated then trashed the update . . . Urk!
 

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Thanks to everyone that responded. You all have taught me several lessons!
 

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