Solved Running Windows 11 with a local account

lexster · Oct 3, 2021

Bree said:
I don't understand the logic in this.

Put simply, there are certain legal rights one surrenders when accepting a "free upgrade" that remain intact when one pays for the same software. I'm not willing to get into the nitty-gritty of the details of such. Those are rights I'm not willing to surrender. Thus I PAY for my software. However, we're getting off-topic...

lexster · Oct 3, 2021

MTA said:
Upgrading Home to Pro is a solution.

That is true, but there is one catch, you have to create a microsoft account to purchase said upgrade which negates the point of doing the upgrade in this context.

PerpetualCycle · Oct 3, 2021

lexster said:
That is true, but there is one catch, you have to create a micorosft account to purchase said upgrade which negates the point of doing the upgrade in this context.

But you don't have to give Microsoft access to your data once purchased, correct?

MTA · Oct 3, 2021

lexster said:
That is true, but there is one catch, you have to create a micorosft account to purchase said upgrade which negates the point of doing the upgrade in this context.

You can upgrade with a Pro key. I bought Windows 10 Pro key on some sale for like $14, and used that one to upgrade 11 Home to Pro.

lexster · Oct 3, 2021

geneo said:
But you don't have to give Microsoft access to your data once purchased, correct?

MTA said:
You can upgrade with a Pro key. I bought Windows 10 Pro key on some sale for like $14, and used that one to upgrade 11 Home to Pro.

It seems I needed to be more clear. Sorry about that.

IF one buys from microsoft directly then an account has to be created and personal info disclosed. If you buy from any third party such as a retail store or an online key seller, then personal info does not have to be disclosed and the upgrade can be done without a microsoft account.

MTA · Oct 3, 2021

lexster said:
It seems I needed to be more clear. Sorry about that.

IF one buys from microsoft directly then an account has to be created and personal info disclosed. If you buy from any third party such as a retail store or an online key seller, then personal info does not have to be disclosed and the upgrade can be done without a microsoft account.

That's correct, i also use offline account. You can also do a clean install of Windows once you activate Pro key on that machine, and use offline account on installation.

Superfly · Oct 3, 2021

MTA said:
You can upgrade with a Pro key. I bought Windows 10 Pro key on some sale for like $14, and used that one to upgrade 11 Home to Pro.

Well... OK, but @ 14 bucks that is almost certainly not a genuine key - but hey, MS has relaxed enforcement of WAT so much since Win 7 it's unbelievable.. I guess telemetry commercialisation is making up for the loss in revenue...so.

lexster · Oct 3, 2021

Superfly said:
Well... OK, but @ 14 bucks that is almost certainly not a genuine key - but hey, MS has relaxed enforcement of WAT so much since Win 7 it's unbelievable.. I guess telemetry commercialisation is making up for the loss in revenue...so.

This is not the thread for that topic of discussion.

Superfly · Oct 3, 2021

lexster said:
This is not the thread for that topic of discussion.

So? Do you have a bee in your bonnet or what? This is the Activation sub-forum... it may not me totally on topic but is of relevance.. not so?

pparks1 · Oct 4, 2021

lexster said:
They can say whatever they wish, I couldn't care less. We users have rights too. And we do not have to tolerate artificial limitations and forced compliance with requirements which are, to say the least, poorly thought out and tread upon our rights to privacy among other problems.

Well, to be fair, you agree to an end user license agreement which gives you the right to use the software under their terms and conditions. You don't actually own the rights to the software.

Dru2 · Oct 4, 2021

lexster said:
This is not the thread for that topic of discussion.

Superfly said:
So? Do you have a bee in your bonnet or what? This is the Activation sub-forum... it may not me totally on topic but is of relevance.. not so?

While I don't agree with the OP's reasons for "avoiding" a free upgrade, they do have a right to insist the thread stay on topic. Nothin wrong with that. But, when you make controversial statements, people are going to focus on that, rather than the issue at hand.

Superfly · Oct 4, 2021

Dru2 said:
While I don't agree with the OP's reasons for "avoiding" a free upgrade, they do have a right to insist the thread stay on topic. Nothin wrong with that. But, when you make controversial statements, people are going to focus on that, rather than the issue at hand.

Pffft... controversial? ...seriously? LOL

Any Member · Oct 4, 2021

Don't know what will happen with tomorrows release. As of 2000.194
this still works.
Disconnect from internet
When screen says " Lets connect you to a network"
Plug in Ethernet cable
Click next and unplug cable
after a short "Checking for updates"
"Who's going to use this device" (Local account setup)

I would think this would work for WiFi, if you can disconnect after clicking next.
Have not tried it

Wisewiz · Oct 4, 2021

Bree said:
By the time I wiped the system three days ago and restored W10 it had updated to the latest 22000.194 build ...

@Bree

Ok, I guess I've been asleep at the switch as far as W10 goes, since I've been busier than a Canadian beaver with W11 on my main machine, so I'm dying to know what I need do to reach your build number. My W10s show 21H2 19044.1266.

Dan

lexster · Oct 4, 2021

Superfly said:
So? Do you have a bee in your bonnet or what? This is the Activation sub-forum... it may not me totally on topic but is of relevance.. not so?

Not so. This thread is about local accounts on Windows 11 Home.

pparks1 said:
Well, to be fair, you agree to an end user license agreement which gives you the right to use the software under their terms and conditions. You don't actually own the rights to the software.

Interesting opinion. Wrong, but interesting.

Any Member said:
Don't know what will happen with tomorrows release. As of 2000.194
this still works.
Disconnect from internet
When screen says " Lets connect you to a network"
Plug in Ethernet cable
Click next and unplug cable
after a short "Checking for updates"
"Who's going to use this device" (Local account setup)

I would think this would work for WiFi, if you can disconnect after clicking next.
Have not tried it

Tried that, just took me back to the "Lets connect you to a network" screen.

Wisewiz said:
@Bree

Ok, I guess I've been asleep at the switch as far as W10 goes, since I've been busier than a Canadian beaver with W11 on my main machine, so I'm dying to know what I need do to reach your build number. My W10s show 21H2 19044.1266.

Dan

You may have missed the train of thought. 22000.194 is the version of 11 they were at before restoring back to Win10.

cereberus · Oct 4, 2021

Something has changed - no need to disconnect from internet. Just enter a false email address, false password, it replies "oops, something has gone wrong".

Then click next and the next screen jumps to a local account input screen.

Wisewiz · Oct 4, 2021

lexster said:
You may have missed the train of thought. 22000.194 is the version of 11 they were at before restoring back to Win10.

Sorry. I misunderstood. I thought it was clear in Bree's post that he had rolled back to Win10 and found that Win10 had updated to 22000.194, and that just blew me away.

Bree · Oct 4, 2021

Wisewiz said:
I thought it was clear in Bree's post that he had rolled back to Win10 and found that Win10 had updated to 22000.194, and that just blew me away.

no - I meant that my W11 test had updated to the current 22000.194 by the time I got round to restoring the W10 image.

Wisewiz · Oct 4, 2021

@Bree
Thank you for that clarification. Now I don't have to spend the rest of the day thinking that I belong in a home for the permanently bewildered.

Dru2 · Oct 4, 2021

pparks1 said:
Well, to be fair, you agree to an end user license agreement which gives you the right to use the software under their terms and conditions. You don't actually own the rights to the software.

lexster said:
Interesting opinion. Wrong, but interesting.

No matter how you parse it, what you bought is a license, not the software out right. While you may have physical possession of the software, you do not own the software from the standpoint that you can't resell the OS, modify and distribute as your own. So, in that vain pparks1 is correct in what he said. You may not like it, but the fact is... you DO NOT own the software, you're "licensed" to use it.

2. Installation and Use Rights.

a. License. The software is licensed, not sold. Under this agreement, we grant you the right to install and run one instance of the software on your device (the licensed device), for use by one person at a time, so long as you comply with all the terms of this agreement. Updating or upgrading from non-genuine software with software from Microsoft or authorized sources does not make your original version or the updated/upgraded version genuine, and in that situation, you do not have a license to use the software.

Source: Microsoft License Terms. You can also find a copy of the license in your System32 folder.

Good luck with your issue.