S Mode Problem


RichardC

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I've got a new laptop that's running in S Mode. I tried opening command prompt and it said I had to exit S Mode. Is S Mode that important?
 

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I've got a new laptop that's running in S Mode. I tried opening command prompt and it said I had to exit S Mode. Is S Mode that important?
Hey, S mode I believe is Safe mode, usually only used for troubleshooting, you should be able to boot into windows normally

EDIT Windows s mode is a streamlined version that only uses apps from the store. Lower end pcs would usually use this if resources are slim. Also apparently once you leave S Mode you cannot re enter it.
 

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I suggest anyone running in S mode switch out of it into a full fledged Windows. It's very easy to do. .https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/switching-out-of-s-mode-in-windows-4f56d9be-99ec-6983-119f-031bfb28a307
I would usually always agree but take a look at his pc specs too
 

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take a look at his pc spec
Oops. I missed that. With those specs, I suspect there will be issues even using S mode. I know MS requirements say 11 will run 1 gz/2 cores/4 gb ram but they fail to tell people how poorly it will run.
 

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Oops. I missed that. With those specs, I suspect there will be issues even using S mode. I know MS requirements say say 11 will run 1 gz/2 cores/4 gb ram but they fail to tell people how poorly it will run.
I agree it'd be a toughie for me personally but I guess it is what it is, I had someone tell me earlier on they run windows 11 on only 1-1.6gb( or something like that) lol, Theyre may be truth to it but literally my pc just wouldn't work anymore xD
 
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I will advise the user to stop all unnecessary startup processes, get the OS as lean and mean as possible, and curtail how many windows (and tabs) they have open at one time. What would be a killer for me is if S mode keeps the user from using the command prompt. I was unaware that one could not do that in S mode.
 

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    DELL 0J37VM
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    32 gb
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    256 m.2 2230-256+1 tb hdd
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    500w
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    Logitech wireless
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    Dell Optiplex 9020
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    i7-4770
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    24 gb
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    Benq 27
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    2560x1440
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    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
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I've got a new laptop that's running in S Mode.....
With those specs, I suspect there will be issues even using S mode. I know MS requirements say 11 will run 1 gz/2 cores/4 gb ram but they fail to tell people how poorly it will run.
I agree it'd be a toughie for me personally but I guess it is what it is, I had someone tell me earlier on they run windows 11 on only 1-1.6gb( or something like that) lol

Just as a test, I have installed 11 Home on a really low spec machine wtih just 2GB RAM. It ran surprisingly well conscidering, but was a little sluggish. I have other machines with a more reaonable 4GB RAM, they run W11 acceptably well.

The OP should already be aware of the performance this machine is achiving in S Mode. If that is acceptable performance for the use it's put to, then switching out of S Mode shouldn't make it any worse.

The Celeron N4020 in the OP's specs has a higher benchmark then the Celeron N2930 in another of my machines.


My machine only has 4GB RAM too, but I'm currently runing the Release Preview build of 22H2 22621 on it without any issues. Mine does have an SSD which helps make it feel fast enough, the OP's HP Stream should have a 64 GB eMMC so that would help too.
 
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    Windows 11 Home
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    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
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    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
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    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 RTM as a native boot vhdx.
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    Dell Lattitude E4310
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    i5 M 520
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    0T6M8G
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    4GB
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    500GB HDD
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    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 RTM as a native boot vhdx.

RichardC

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Thanks to all. Once I get my desktop running again, I think I'll try the normal windows for the laptop.
 

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    windows 11 Home in S Mode
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    HP Stream
    CPU
    Intel Celeron N4020 @1.1 GHz
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    4 GB
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Thanks to all. Once I get my desktop running again, I think I'll try the normal windows for the laptop.
Come back when you're done and tell us how it performs.....
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 RTM as a native boot vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    i5 M 520
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 RTM as a native boot vhdx.

RichardC

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Thanks Bree, will do.
 

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    windows 11 Home in S Mode
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Stream
    CPU
    Intel Celeron N4020 @1.1 GHz
    Memory
    4 GB
    Sound Card
    RealTech?
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