Small network 2 pcs see 1 refuses credentials


ChrisPbass

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I have 4 W11 computers, a mix of pro and home.
I have a new desktop I'm using as a server. dtop
All share the same Network Name
2 are connected w/ethernet to a Netgear 7900 router, 2 are connected via wifi from the same router

They are all local accounts except for cltop which has an MS @outlook.com login.
dtop has 3 users with identical credentials as the pc connecting to it. e.g Fred/pw123 on 1 laptop has the same creds on dtop.
I have them all on a private network with discovery and password protection.
I tried multiple times to log in to the new hardwired desktop (dtop) entering credentials, worked then didn't work.
Started all over this morning
Some pcs can see stuff on the network but some don't
using \\dtop. boom. access for 2 of the 3.

HOWEVER

1 laptop (ltop) cannot get into dtop. However, I can get into ltop from dtop.
They have the same user name and password and they are both administrators.
I have tried typing the name in all caps, because inexplicably it shows up like sometimes/somewhere.
nothing works...cannot get into it no matter how many times I type the password.

I can login to dtop from ltop using the outlook.com login.

I know I'm right because I'm logging into both computers....with the same log/pass.

W.T.H. Windows!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    w11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo i3
    Memory
    24gb
    Hard Drives
    M2
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    W11 home updated
BUMP


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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    w11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo i3
    Memory
    24gb
    Hard Drives
    M2
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    W11 home updated
I can sympathize. For the longest time my Windows 11 would not recognize my Windows 10 but 10 would see 11 in the network map. I ended up accessing by ip address rather than the network map as it is supposed to work. Networking issues of all kinds has been a steady source of threads here.

We've had many lengthy threads regarding credentials and networking as well as issues where some sytems will see other sytems on network but another system won't. Maybe one of them can be of help in your situation. Click on search in forum toolbar>select advanced search>enter search criteria eg: credentials, networking credentials, computer not listed in network map. You'll have a lot of reading.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3447
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 +256gb ssd+512 gb usb m.2 sata
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
Windows Networking is such a pain. Yeah I'll just do it by Ip. Hopefully that will work. I think I did that last time I ran into this problem, but that was 5+ years ago, so I don’t even remember.

10 sees 11 that’s not the problem. The 211 Pro computers with exact same credentials only one sees the other. Whatever...I’ll just do IP
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    w11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo i3
    Memory
    24gb
    Hard Drives
    M2
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    W11 home updated
To make it easier and quicker I just made a shortcut and pinned it to my quick access. To add a little quirk to this, You may wake up some morning and find the PC mysteriously be listed in your network map after an update. That happened to me. Worked for about 2 months, then gone again. No rhyme or reason to it. There have always been problems of one kind or another pop up with networking in windows. When it works, it work well. When it doesn't, you have to punt.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3447
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 +256gb ssd+512 gb usb m.2 sata
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
@ChrisPbass, If you want to make a shortcut to the computer use \\name of computer. When you click on the shortcut you will be ask for the sign-in credentials. Use the info that you need to sign-in to that computer with.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
I only Map a folder on my NAS drive attached to the Router from any computer desired, Wired or Wireless/Wi-Fi. I used the format of \\NASMODEL\Foldername\, as shown in the right-click of This PC and Map The NASNAME was established when first setting it up and I assigned the letter Z [like old versions of Windows did].

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro RTM
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 3400
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz
    Memory
    12GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD NVMe
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro RTM x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 5890
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Onboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Dell
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD NVMe, 2TB WDC HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender/Microsoft Security
My network is working great and I see all my powered on PCs on my network. Powered on because powered off PCs won't be seen on the network (for those not familiar with networking).

This biggest advice I can give is make sure File and Print is on, as well as Network Discovery. Also make sure every PC is configured the same way network wise. Lastly, setup your Network ID and name your Workgroup. Also name your PC and Workgroup.

This my Network as seen from my Windows 10 Yoga laptop...

Network.jpg

The Yoga is the laptop, Drew is my desktop. Backup_PC is my other desktop, and MyCloud is my NAS. I can even see my Samsung TV. This same info is shown from my Windows 11 PC (Drew). The other PCs are Windows 10.

To access the PC's, I use Remote Desktop, as clicking the PC will get you a blank screen unless you have Shares enabled on the PC. You can also right click the PC and choose "Connect with Remote Desktop Connection". This logs you directly into the PC.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (Build 22631.3296)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    Intel i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Xtreme
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (3600Mhz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon VII
    Sound Card
    Onboard (ESS Sabre HiFi using Realtek drivers)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NEC PA242w (24 inch)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    5 Samsung SSD drives: 2X 970 NVME (512 & 1TB), 3X EVO SATA (2X 2TB, 1X 1TB)
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova I000 G2 (1000 watt)
    Case
    Cooler Master H500M
    Cooling
    Corsair H115i RGB Platinum
    Keyboard
    Logitech Craft
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    500mb Download. 11mb Upload
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    System used for gaming, photography, music, school.
  • Operating System
    Win 10 Pro 22H2 (build 19045.2130)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-7700K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-Z270X-GAMING 8
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair Dominator Platinum (3333Mhz)
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon R9 Fury
    Sound Card
    Onboard (Creative Sound Blaster certified ZxRi)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2415 (24 inch)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    3 Samsung SSD drives: 1x 512gig 950 NVMe drive (OS drive), 1 x 512gig 850 Pro, 1x 256gig 840 Pro.
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova 1000 P2 (1000 watt)
    Case
    Phantek Enthoo Luxe
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK 710
    Internet Speed
    100MB
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    This is my backup system.
Everything suggested except connect by I.P. I've done. It's just inexplicably working now. 🤷‍♂️
I mapped all the necessary shares.
Thanks for all the help!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    w11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo i3
    Memory
    24gb
    Hard Drives
    M2
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    W11 home updated
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