Solved Solved: running Eudora 7.1 (very old) in Windows 11 Pro (22H2)


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Unfortunately, I have to support some PCs running old Eudora 7.1. It's a long story for a very unusual client.

Eudora 7.1 runs fine in Windows 10 (22H2 and prior versions) but this customer is getting ready to buy Windows 11 PCs.

Various helpful online posts provided enough info to make Eudora work in Windows 11. Whew.

Here are steps I cobbled together from scattered online posts. They might help the dozen or so remaining Eudora 7.1 users forced into Windows 11.

After installing Eudora (with default locations, though installing in the root might be best), the following 3 things made Eudora work:

(1) updated Eudora 7.1's SSL by downloading HermSSL.zip from HERMES Mail - Browse Files at SourceForge.net expanded the zip and ran vcredist.exe, which created another folder, then exited Eudora and copied libeay32.dll QCSSL.dll rootcerts.p7b and ssleay32.dll from the new folder made by vcredist.exe to Eudora's program folder and "replaced" if prompted.

(2) enabled the "Ports" feature in Eudora by exiting Eudora, copying esoteric.epi from Eudora's "extrastuff" folder to Eudora's main folder, then starting Eudora and going to Tools, Options and scrolling way down to "Ports."

(3) for gmail (maybe necessary for other email providers, too), created an app-specific password in the gmail acct for use in Eudora because gmail won't trust ancient Eudora with regular gmail user/password credentials even without 2FA enabled; tested with IMAP and POP3 email ok (only problem was some delays in Eudora when deleting email in the wimpy test PC running Windows 11; that might not happen on more powerful Windows 11 PC).

NOTE: you might have to run Eudora 7.1 as adminstrator (either right-click or change the Eudora shortcut's Properties: Shortcut, Advanced, Run as administrator)

When this customer finally retires, I'll never have to support Eudora 7.1 again.

PS Eudora users are obsessed with its search feature, which to me doesn't seem superior to modern search features in browser-based email like gmail.

PPS Eudora 7.1 and previous versions have a critical design flaw that's a nightmare: it mixes drafts and sent mail in the same "Outbox" (folder/mailbox) and therefore needs a separate db file to keep track of which emails were sent and also which have various user-applied labels; the db gets corrupted about once every year or two; creating a fresh db file often loses track of which emails were sent and also loses user-applied labeling, leaving the user to wade through the Outbox to try to remember which are which.

Ugh.
 
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Windows 11 Pro / 22H2

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    Windows 11
I am using Eudora 7.1.0.9 on a new Windows 11 machine, and everything is working fine except that the contents of popup/popout windows that contain more than 80 or so lines run off the bottom of the screen so that you cannot see some of the content. An example on my machine would be to right click a message, select Transfer, and select a folder with more than 80 mailboxes. Is there a setting in eudora.ini or an x-options setting that could remedy this, or can you think of a way to address this? My graphics card is an NIVIDIA GeForce RTX3060, and my monitor is a Samsung LC27G55TQWNXZA 27.0" set to a resolution of 2560 x 1440. I have attached a screen shot of the problem. Thank you for any advice you can offer!
 

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I am using Eudora 7.1.0.9 on a new Windows 11 machine, and everything is working fine except that the contents of popup/popout windows that contain more than 80 or so lines run off the bottom of the screen so that you cannot see some of the content. An example on my machine would be to right click a message, select Transfer, and select a folder with more than 80 mailboxes. Is there a setting in eudora.ini or an x-options setting that could remedy this, or can you think of a way to address this? My graphics card is an NIVIDIA GeForce RTX3060, and my monitor is a Samsung LC27G55TQWNXZA 27.0" set to a resolution of 2560 x 1440. I have attached a screen shot of the problem. Thank you for any advice you can offer!
Thunderbird might be a better bet --you can import settings from eudora althouh the sheer number of possibilities and options on thunderbird means probably for a lot of people serious I.T expertise might be needed -- but it;s still a good FREE email client without any account limitations etc.
 

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    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
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    2 X Intel i7
Thanks for that idea. I've been using Eudora for so long, and it works so well for me, that I do not want to move to another email client. Apart from changing clients, do you have any additional thoughts?
 

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    Windows 11
To all of those that have successfully made Eudora work, can you let me know who you used for an email hosting provider. I have a die hard Eudora client that is having trouble making it work on both Windows 10 and 11. His new machine came with Windows 11 so I reinstalled Eudora and used the Hermes patches, port patch etc. His personal domain was registered with GoDaddy and he is using the Outlook mail service they offer. Currently he is able to send but not receive. The host just denies the connection stating bad login. Any help you can offer with regards to who to use for email to keep his domain would be greatly appreciated.
 

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    Windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell

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