Suggestions for new workflow without QuickLaunch & Toolbars?


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I'm still on Win10, and my desktop PC is compatible with 11, but without the QuickLaunch and Toolbars I'm not planning on upgrading. ...that is, unless I can figure out how to maintain a similar efficient workflow without those features.

If anyone has any suggestions, I'm open to ideas.

I truly hope that MS returns the functionality in some form , because QL and Toolbars have been indispensable since it was first introduced, I think in Win 95.
 

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3rd party software or registry hacks!
 

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Yepp, I use the easy-to-install ExplorerPatcher which brings back the W10 taskbar style, ungrouped the program icons, set TB size to triple hight, and added a Quicklaunch to the left and a "Systembar" to the right. The Systembar holds programs/shortcuts to WiFi, Sndvol.exe, etc)

Now it feels pretty much "home" :)
 

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Maybe shortcuts with key combos assigned and make use of the virtual desktops Windows provides to keep processes separate.
 

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On Windows 11 you can restore the Taskbar from Windows 10 via a registry tweak. But it isn't a perfect solution, as it breaks a few (minor) things and also you will lose the Start Menu, Win+X menu, Clipboard History, and File Explorer's ability to Search. I use Open-Shell to get my Start Menu back (Windows 7 style, with a custom skin). To search my files and folders, I can still use the Search bar that's at the bottom of this Start Menu (and it's also possible to open the search result in File Explorer from there, if needed), as it works exactly the same way it did in Windows 7, although I much prefer to use Everything. I can live without the Win+X menu and the Clipboard History, as I never really used them. On my Windows 11, here's how it looks like:

Classic taskbar.png

P.S., please upvote the issue in the Feedback Hub: Windows Insider Program
 
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without the QuickLaunch and Toolbars I'm not planning on upgrading. ...that is, unless I can figure out how to maintain a similar efficient workflow without those features

I've restored Taskbar Toolbars & set the Taskbar up the way I want it using

1 Restore Taskbar toolbar capability [UndockingDisabled method] - Change Taskbar to old form [#4, 20-21] - ElevenForum
EnableUndockedTaskBar.reg
Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
;This creates the UndockingDisabled entry to enable the Taskbar to show Taskbar Toolbars again
; Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Shell\Update\Packages]
"UndockingDisabled"=dword:00000001
2 Taskbar size & Taskbar small icons - Change Size of Taskbar Icons in Windows 11 - ElevenForumTutorials

3 Ungroup Taskbar icons - Enable or Disable Grouping of Taskbar Buttons [Windows 10, 11] - TenForumsTutorials

4 SystemIcons changes - %windir%\explorer.exe shell:::{05d7b0f4-2121-4eff-bf6b-ed3f69b894d9}\SystemIcons - This opens a dialog that allows specific system icons to be selected, just as it did for Windows 10.

With these tweaks, my Taskbar now appears & works more or less as it does in Windows 10. My Start button icon is inert.
Windows 11 taskbar after setting up.png

As with the method HDMI mentioned, I have lost the Start menu but I didn't want it anyway. My Taskbar Toolbar has been my Windows user interface for years.

So solutions already exist and more will emerge over time [you won't need to upgrade until 2025].

All the best,
Denis
 
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I've restored Taskbar Toolbars & set the Taskbar up the way I want it using...

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So solutions already exist and more will emerge over time [you won't need to upgrade until 2025].

All the best,
Denis

Thank you for that, Denis. When I get a day or two when I can dedicate some serious test time, I'll upgrade and implement those suggestions. The upside is I can roll back within ten days if I don't like what I see. But from what you and others have said, it shouldn't be a problem.
 

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Thank you for that, Denis. When I get a day or two when I can dedicate some serious test time, I'll upgrade and implement those suggestions. The upside is I can roll back within ten days if I don't like what I see. But from what you and others have said, it shouldn't be a problem.

Make a system image [of all partitions] before doing the upgrade. Then you'll be able to have a perfect 'rollback' whenever you want.
Do you already know about system imaging?

This is how I did my upgrade:-
Upgrading with the Windows 11 RTM ISO on a well-below spec computer [my post #266] - ElevenForum
I only bothered because I wanted a testbed computer. I won't update my main computers until I have to.

Best of luck,
Denis
 

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I've restored Taskbar Toolbars & set the Taskbar up the way I want it using

1 Restore Taskbar toolbar capability [UndockingDisabled method] - Change Taskbar to old form [#4, 20-21] - ElevenForum
EnableUndockedTaskBar.reg
Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
;This creates the UndockingDisabled entry to enable the Taskbar to show Taskbar Toolbars again
; Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Shell\Update\Packages]
"UndockingDisabled"=dword:00000001
2 Taskbar size & Taskbar small icons - Change Size of Taskbar Icons in Windows 11 - ElevenForumTutorials

3 Ungroup Taskbar icons - Enable or Disable Grouping of Taskbar Buttons [Windows 10, 11] - TenForumsTutorials

4 SystemIcons changes - %windir%\explorer.exe shell:::{05d7b0f4-2121-4eff-bf6b-ed3f69b894d9}\SystemIcons - This opens a dialog that allows specific system icons to be selected, just as it did for Windows 10.

With these tweaks, my Taskbar now appears & works more or less as it does in Windows 10. My Start button icon is inert.
View attachment 10003

As with the method HDMI mentioned, I have lost the Start menu but I didn't want it anyway. My Taskbar Toolbar has been my Windows user interface for years.

So solutions already exist and more will emerge over time [you won't need to upgrade until 2025].

All the best,
Denis

Look into ExplorerPatcher ... much easier
 

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Instead of using the .reg file, you can also issue the following command from an elevated command prompt:
Code:
reg add HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Shell\Update\Packages /f /v UndockingDisabled /t REG_DWORD /d 1
Restart the computer for changes to take effect.
(If you want to undo this registry change, you can use
Code:
reg delete HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Shell\Update\Packages /f /v UndockingDisabled
.)

Next, to open the System icon settings (where you can choose to restore the 3 different icons for Network, Power, and Sound), run this:
Code:
explorer.exe shell:::{05d7b0f4-2121-4eff-bf6b-ed3f69b894d9}

Below are a number of other changes that you could decide to make. Explorer needs to be restarted for these changes to take effect so, either put the following at the end of your batchfile or put it in a separate batchfile:
Code:
taskkill /f /im explorer.exe
start explorer.exe
  • To disable (hide) Search on taskbar:
Code:
reg add HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Search /f /v SearchboxTaskbarMode /t REG_DWORD /d 0
(0 = Hidden, 1 = Show search or Cortana icon, 2 = Show search box)

  • The Task View button can still be shown/hidden by going into taskbar settings like normal, but for those who want to apply multiple changes with just a single batchfile, I will also include the batch code:
Code:
reg add HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced /f /v ShowTaskViewButton /t REG_DWORD /d 0
(0 = Hidden, 1 = Show Task View button)

  • To change the (classic) taskbar icons size to Small:
Code:
reg add HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced /f /v TaskbarSmallIcons /t REG_DWORD /d 1
(0 = Default, 1 = Small)

  • To make the clock on taskbar show seconds:
Code:
reg add HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced /f /v ShowSecondsInSystemClock /t REG_DWORD /d 1
(If you want to undo this registry change, you can use
Code:
reg delete HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced /f /v ShowSecondsInSystemClock
.)
 

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Look into ExplorerPatcher ... much easier
After reading his explanation that he posted on Reddit, I think I will give it a shot.

P.S., I am using it now. Thanks for the heads up! There are still some side effects it seems, but yeah, it's an improvement compared to the UndockingDisabled registry hack (I especially like that it eliminates the delay before Windows login :)), and the fact that Valinet has said he's going to continue working on it definitely is promising although it might take a while before the next release. I found a list of these side effects with some suggestions and possible workarounds that might prove to be useful at least for now or possibly longer:
 
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I've restored Taskbar Toolbars & set the Taskbar up the way I want it using

1 Restore Taskbar toolbar capability [UndockingDisabled method] - Change Taskbar to old form [#4, 20-21] - ElevenForum
EnableUndockedTaskBar.reg
Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
;This creates the UndockingDisabled entry to enable the Taskbar to show Taskbar Toolbars again
; Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Shell\Update\Packages]
"UndockingDisabled"=dword:00000001
2 Taskbar size & Taskbar small icons - Change Size of Taskbar Icons in Windows 11 - ElevenForumTutorials

3 Ungroup Taskbar icons - Enable or Disable Grouping of Taskbar Buttons [Windows 10, 11] - TenForumsTutorials

4 SystemIcons changes - %windir%\explorer.exe shell:::{05d7b0f4-2121-4eff-bf6b-ed3f69b894d9}\SystemIcons - This opens a dialog that allows specific system icons to be selected, just as it did for Windows 10.

With these tweaks, my Taskbar now appears & works more or less as it does in Windows 10. My Start button icon is inert.
View attachment 10003

As with the method HDMI mentioned, I have lost the Start menu but I didn't want it anyway. My Taskbar Toolbar has been my Windows user interface for years.

So solutions already exist and more will emerge over time [you won't need to upgrade until 2025].

All the best,
Denis
this is all fine and dandy, but I don't want my taskbar moving back to the left. I like it centered. If i wanted to go back to Windows 10 taskbar GUI, i'd just reinstall Windows 10.
 

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Personally, I never use QuickLaunch, I just remove it from Explorer together with Network, OneDrive and the rest of Windows constructs that I never use. Taskbar is also not too big a priority for me, I do pin a few programs there, mostly browsers (I use several different profiles for different purposes), but that's all, so for me the Taskbar change in Windows 11 is not a big deal. Programs that I use the most are on my desktop.
 

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Personally, I never use QuickLaunch, I just remove it from Explorer together with Network, OneDrive and the rest of Windows constructs that I never use. Taskbar is also not too big a priority for me, I do pin a few programs there, mostly browsers (I use several different profiles for different purposes), but that's all, so for me the Taskbar change in Windows 11 is not a big deal. Programs that I use the most are on my desktop.
That's Quick Access, not Quick Launch. Quick Launch is on the taskbar in Windows XP/Vista, and it is disabled by default on Windows 7/8/8.1/10, see: Quick Launch - Enable or Disable
On Windows 11, it can still be enabled after you have applied a tweak to bring back the "classic" taskbar (of Windows 10). There are currently at least 3 different methods (that I know of) to bring back the classic taskbar on Windows 11. Each method has its own unique set of problems/limitations. But then, the same can also be said about the "modern" taskbar that is enabled on Windows 11 by default. (The missing ability to put a toolbar on the taskbar is only one example of that.)
 

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