Teamviewer will soon require mandatory accounts


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I used this program to help people clean their computers who did not quiet understand what to do. But after awhile TeamViewer wanted me to pay them, so i started using "Quick Assist" !
 

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I sometimes use Team Viewer without logging into my account. But as far as I know, you can't use all the features of the application without a login.
Besides, it seems to me that this is done for security, I recently came across an article about what you need to do to secure a remote session TeamViewer Security Risks - 10 Steps To Reduce It It describes the risks.
I think this article will be interesting for TeamViewer users.
 

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Hi folks

@flashh4 and others :

Plenty of other ways to avoid using team viewer. If you know the remote IP address you can also use Windows Remote Assistance for assisting with remote computers (although that of course requires someone on the remote computer to approve the remote logon).

The main reason people seem to want to use it is that it provides a remote "Dynamic" IP address for your system whenever your own ISP provider changes the IP address.

RDP (Remote Desktop) is simple enough - just route the appropriate IP address to the router via the standard port (3389) -- or enable Putty with tunnelling . For typical remote uses to HOME computers RDP is easy enough - and while not the most secure system it's safe enough for the average home user for "casual use".


My way round that is via a command line script to send an email to my mobile phone every 2 hours (change at will -- may be every 6 hours or 24 depending on your ISP.

At this stage I'm testing on a server that doesn't need authentication (port 25) -- will add the authentication
in a further example later .

I decided to use netcat rather than telnet because telnet needs a few sleep commands in it to handle
responses from the server.

I left the start variables as interactive so its easier for testing on different servers and sending to different
email addresses.

This also works from the WSL on Windows -- install dnsutils to get the dig command on it.

I'm sure windows gurus out there can easily convert this simple script to Windows -- .
Run say at your choice time interval or whatever via crontab in linux / or in windows any job scheduler -- (Run this on the REMOTE computer of course !!!!).

#!/bin/bash
# Send email from bash
# hrafn simple script to send simple email with your IP address (external)
read -p "Enter SMTP email server address: " server
read -p "Enter SMTP Port: " port
read -p "Enter Your Email Address: " from
read -p "Enter Recipient's Email Address: " to
# get your public IP address
myip="$(dig +short myip.opendns.com @ReSolver1.opendns.com)"
# create message
function mail_input {
echo "ehlo $(hostname -f)"
echo "MAIL FROM: <$from>"
echo "RCPT TO: <$to>"
echo "DATA"
echo "From: <$from>"
echo "To: <$to>"
echo "Subject: Testing SMTP Mail"
echo " "
echo "Your public internet address is "
echo $myip
echo " "
echo "finished"
echo "."
echo "quit"
}
mail_input | netcat $server $port || err_exit


Don't forget to finish the inline text with the "." line before the SMTP quit command.

Using this method doesn't require the use of an email server or client on the host.

If you always know your own "external remote IP address" you can use all sorts of ways of connecting to your home computer from the wider Internet --remember though that Windows HOME of any release can only act as a CLIENT if you are using RDC for connections. For simple file transfers things like filezillla are good and if you are up to it you can set up the built in Windows VPN too.

With decent fast fibre optic systems even for upload you can avoid 3rd party commercial offerings for remote computer access.

Time to give a "Churchillian 2 fingured salute" to Teamviewer.

Cheers
jimbo
 
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Hi folks
Plenty of other ways to avoid using team viewer.
The main reason people seem to want to use it is that it provides a remote "Dynamic" IP address for your system whenever your own ISP provider changes the IP address.

My way round that is via a command line script to send an email to my mobile phone every 2 hours (change at will -- may be every 6 hours or 24 depending on your ISP.

At this stage I'm testing on a server that doesn't need authentication (port 25) -- will add the authentication
in a further example later .

I decided to use netcat rather than telnet because telnet needs a few sleep commands in it to handle
responses from the server.

I left the start variables as interactive so its easier for testing on different servers and sending to different
email addresses.

This also works from the WSL on Windows -- install dnsutils to get the dig command on it.

I'm sure windows gurus out there can easily convert this simple script to Windows -- .
Run say at your choice ime interval or whatever via crontab in linux / or in windows any job scheduler --

#!/bin/bash
# Send email from bash
# hrafn simple script to send simple email with your IP address (external)
read -p "Enter SMTP email server address: " server
read -p "Enter SMTP Port: " port
read -p "Enter Your Email Address: " from
read -p "Enter Recipient's Email Address: " to
# get your public IP address
myip="$(dig +short myip.opendns.com @ReSolver1.opendns.com)"
# create message
function mail_input {
echo "ehlo $(hostname -f)"
echo "MAIL FROM: <$from>"
echo "RCPT TO: <$to>"
echo "DATA"
echo "From: <$from>"
echo "To: <$to>"
echo "Subject: Testing SMTP Mail"
echo " "
echo "Your public internet address is "
echo $myip
echo " "
echo "finished"
echo "."
echo "quit"
}
mail_input | netcat $server $port || err_exit


Don't forget to finish the inline text with the "." line before the SMTP quit command.


Using this method doesn't require the use of an email server or client on the host (
If you always know your own "external remote IP address" you can use all sorts of ways of connecting to your home computer from the wider Internet --remember though that Windows HOME of any release can only act as a CLIENT if you are using RDC for connections. For simple file transfers things like filezillla are good and if you are up to it you can set up the built in Windows VPN too.

With decent fast fibre optic systems even for upload you can avoid 3rd party commercial offerings for remote computer access.

Time to give a "Churchillian 2 fingured salute" to Teamviewer.

Cheers
jimbo
Or just Anydesk
 

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Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
Or just Anydesk
Why be dependent on things that standard Windows can do easily enough !!!!! With more and more companies wanting to "Monetize" everything who's to say that AnyDesk won't go the same way too in the near future. Look at Macrium retiring the Free edition. Loads of other software now hobbles features unless "You Go Pro" i.e pay.

Also this shows a little more of "The hidden power" of windows too. Always fun to learn a bit more.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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If you know the remote IP address you can also use Windows Remote Assistance for assisting with remote computers
You don't have to know any IP adress. Only send a code to the client who enters it in their end of Remote Assistance app, and off you go.

The important part here is that it is the client who invokes the session, not the one in the other end.
 

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You don't have to know any IP adress. Only send a code to the client who enters it in their end of Remote Assistance app, and off you go.

The important part here is that it is the client who invokes the session, not the one in the other end.
Hi there

Agreed -- but what I meant is that this service requires 2 people (one at each end) to use it.

The main point of the post was on how the person on his / her local laptop / computer say at work or elsewhere could connect to a remote computer at home.

The two issues are different -- Remote assistance and simply logging on as a remote user.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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The two issues are different -- Remote assistance and simply logging on as a remote user.
Agreed. The solution to that is VPN tunneling for secure networking. Your remote computer will be seen as if it were local, even if it's thousands of miles away.
 

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Agreed. The solution to that is VPN tunneling for secure networking. Your remote computer will be seen as if it were local, even if it's thousands of miles away.
Works fine also from Remote Linux -- tested using mobile phone to create access point outside LAN. Putty / tunnel - perfectly.

On LAN the relevant computer has fixed IP address (internal) .

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Note on Windows OPENSERVER SSH client should be installed -- it's there by default anyway unless people have uninstalled it.


Cheers
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Why be dependent on things that standard Windows can do easily enough !!!!! With more and more companies wanting to "Monetize" everything who's to say that AnyDesk won't go the same way too in the near future. Look at Macrium retiring the Free edition. Loads of other software now hobbles features unless "You Go Pro" i.e pay.

Also this shows a little more of "The hidden power" of windows too. Always fun to learn a bit more.

Cheers
jimbo
We can always rely on you to avoid the KISS principle LOL.
 

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We can always rely on you to avoid the KISS principle LOL.
Gets too boring if it's too easy -- !!!!!

I think I must have got the idea from using SAP (some type of huge ERP software) -- Why do the job with one consultant when we can do the same tasks that require 500 !!!!

Cheers
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I used this program to help people clean their computers who did not quiet understand what to do. But after awhile TeamViewer wanted me to pay them, so i started using "Quick Assist" !
I have never been asked to pay? I have a free account and can access the computers of my family even if they are not present.
 

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@kelper, maybe they didn't like me using it for 10-15 times a day and for a couple hours on each person ! Not really sure why they wanted payment to continue use !!
 

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I connect to three people but not that often. So I don't think you will be forced to pay if you slow down a bit. 🤣
 

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But i use Quick Assist now & it works great, just that it will kick you off when you ask the user to reboot the machine, but i think that would happen no matter what program i use !
 

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I signed out of my TV account and see this message

1680879160112.png

Maybe you should get a free account????
 

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But i use Quick Assist now & it works great, just that it will kick you off when you ask the user to reboot the machine, but i think that would happen no matter what program i use !
Teamviewer can be set up for unattended access.
 

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    Acer Swift SF114-34 laptop
    OS Windows 11 Pro 26200.8655
    CPU Pentium Silver N6000
    RAM 4GB
    BIOS v1.17
    SSD Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB (an upgrade)
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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506Atom N450 1.66GHz2GB
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
Currently, I have been using TeamViewer to remotely connect to my grandmothers' computer when it needs fixing. Recently, my grandmother has been having trouble reading the code I need to put in my computer to remotely connect. I'm not sure if there is any software that can just be a simple authorization "Yes / No" instead of having to type a code that changes every so often. Remote connecting to her computer to fix things has been so beneficial, especially during the pandemic when we couldn't see each other often.
 

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TeamViewer can be set for unattended access if you know her log in details. The only requirement is that she switches it on
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 26200.8655AMD Ryzen 7 5825U with Radeon Graphics16GB
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 26200.8655
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acemagic LX15PRO
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5825U with Radeon Graphics
    Motherboard
    BIOS CT_BI_AMI_LX15PRO_AB8139_A-004
    Memory
    16GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD 2TB
    Internet Speed
    30 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Defender/Windows Security
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    Acer Swift SF114-34 laptop
    OS Windows 11 Pro 26200.8655
    CPU Pentium Silver N6000
    RAM 4GB
    BIOS v1.17
    SSD Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB (an upgrade)
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506Atom N450 1.66GHz2GB
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot

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