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And yet again.....:rolleyes:

  • Another bad Linux kernel bug has appeared.
  • Fragnesia can give unauthorized users root powers.
  • More open-source security bugs are likely coming.

According to Linus's law, "Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow," is fundamental to open source.

Unfortunately, thanks to AI bug-finding tools, such as Claude Mythos and OpenAI Daybreak, behind most of those eyeballs are AI engines, and they're proving to be much faster at finding security problems than human ones.

 

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Yes, despite what some people say, AI is here to stay, and this will keep happening.

It's Internet 2.0.


Ai will bring lots of good, and lots of bad.

Finding these flaws are good imho, as long as they are patched later. The bad news is cyber warfare will rise highly.
 

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Yes, despite what some people say, AI is here to stay, and this will keep happening.

It's Internet 2.0.


Ai will bring lots of good, and lots of bad.

Finding these flaws are good imho, as long as they are patched later. The bad news is cyber warfare will rise highly.
Good point, finding them is a good thing, but the downside is people using them maliciously.

And this is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to AI. I see some possibly interesting times ahead for humanity as AI gains more of a foothold.

Here's an idea, they should let AI analyze Windows & see how many flaws it finds....:LOL:
 

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Here's an idea, they should let AI analyze Windows & see how many flaws it finds....:LOL:
They actually are, google, microsoft, meta etc and a bunch of other companies were given mythos for free to scrape their code for errors, due to the concern of how effective it has already been in firefox and other things. A lot of people thought it was just marketing at first, but due to the number of vulnerabilities, anthropic was generally concerned and gave them access to the model without cost.

Microsoft statement on mythos:


Anthropic: Project Glasswing


Also, Google project zero has already been doing this for quite some time, but with human vulnerability testers, not AI.

 

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They actually are, google, microsoft, meta etc and a bunch of other companies were given mythos for free to scrape their code for errors, due to the concern of how effective it has already been in firefox and other things. A lot of people thought it was just marketing at first, but due to the number of vulnerabilities, anthropic was generally concerned and gave them access to the model without cost.

Microsoft statement on mythos:


Anthropic: Project Glasswing


Also, Google project zero has already been doing this for quite some time, but with human vulnerability testers, not AI.


Well I wish they would hurry up & use it a bit more. I'm tired of having to drape a Rosery across my PC & saying a prayer every time I apply patches. :LOL:
 

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The real challenge of having AI is the average time to exploit after a patch is released. Defenders used to have 2-4 weeks or more to patch before threat actors had working exploits. AI can now develop a working PoC exploit in around 20 hours. Mythos isn't the only model that can do this. Many are publicly available. It's puts stronger emphasis on doing the fundamentals of cyber security well and have good layered defends so that patching doesn't become a companies Achilles heel
 

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Now all that's left is for Microsoft to use AI to test everything, find the bugs, and then release a Windows 11 V2 AI review edition without bugs and with tripled performance.
Then, who knows, maybe in 2040 that will happen?
 

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The real challenge of having AI is the average time to exploit after a patch is released. Defenders used to have 2-4 weeks or more to patch before threat actors had working exploits. AI can now develop a working PoC exploit in around 20 hours. Mythos isn't the only model that can do this. Many are publicly available. It's puts stronger emphasis on doing the fundamentals of cyber security well and have good layered defends so that patching doesn't become a companies Achilles heel
Extremely well said, thank you
 

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all 3 security flaws in the Linux kernel use the same/similar exploit but also need access to that system.

copy fail fix

dirty frag fix

fragnesia fix

the 7.0 kernel has already been patched for copyfail and dirtyfrag
fragnesia will patched shortly. but fixes for all three are available.

these flaws in the kernel has been known for some time
its only now they have been made public that they are just starting to provide kernel patches
best of luck Steve ..
 

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With such things available, properly using Responsible Disclosure becomes more critical than ever
 

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all 3 security flaws in the Linux kernel use the same/similar exploit but also need access to that system.

copy fail fix

dirty frag fix

fragnesia fix

the 7.0 kernel has already been patched for copyfail and dirtyfrag
fragnesia will patched shortly. but fixes for all three are available.

these flaws in the kernel has been known for some time
its only now they have been made public that they are just starting to provide kernel patches
best of luck Steve ..
7.1 Kernel already patched / fixed etc. As there are far more commercial cloud servers etc using Linux than Windows Server these things are usually fixed when they occur pretty quickly -- Windows commercial servers are often created as "Virtual servers" from Linux cloud systems.


Cheers
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