To activate Win 11, what types of older license are good?


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I am good to go with it now; changed key and activated Windows 11 Pro on it
 

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From reading through this thread I see I may be able to use my Windows 7 Pro CoA key to upgrade my new Windows 11 Home machine to Pro.

However, I used that Win 7 Pro key a couple of years ago to upgrade my Win 10 Home machine to Pro and my MS account shows that machine with Pro.

I intend to keep the old Win 10 machine in use.

Q 1. I believe I need to uninstall or deactivate that key before I reuse it. Do I do that by unlinking that machine from my MS account?

Q 2. Is there anything I should do before I plug in the new Win 11 machine?
 

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It may not be necessary. I would try to use the key again and see what happens. If I could not activate Windows 11, I would consider deactivate the other computer, otherwise why do that.
 

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    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
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    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
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    Custom-built PC
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    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
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    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
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    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
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    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
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    Patriot Burst Elite 480GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
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    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
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    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
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    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
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    100Mbps
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It may not be necessary. I would try to use the key again and see what happens. If I could not activate Windows 11, I would consider deactivate the other computer, otherwise why do that.
To comply with the EULA, which Microsoft seems to have no interest in taking steps to enforce.
 

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    Windows 11
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    AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
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    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
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    Windows 11 Education
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    Laptop
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    Dell Inspiron 7773
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    Intel i7-8550U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce MX150
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
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    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
    SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
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You should deactivate the other computer if you plan to use both at the same time. According to Microsoft using two computers with the same license is not allowed. But if you have the other computer as backup, and not for everyday use, why deactivate it? Technically you won't be using both computers at the same time, you will mostly use Windows 11. I would not deactivate it. Nobody can come to your house and check without a Warrant, it's illegal. If you are a business, like a small office, things are different. But for home use I wouldn't care. Small business can purchase a genuine license for just 50€. Since it is medialess, there is no DVD or USB and package to pay for, you can only buy the key which is sent to you by e-mail. Then you download Windows 11 ISO from Microsoft's site and use the key to activate. Perfectly legal.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 21H2 64-bit (build 22000.739)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
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    1
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    1280x800
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    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
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    WINDOWS DEFENDER
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    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v21H2 (build 22000.739)
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Asus GT620-1GD3 (nVidia GeForce GT 620 1GB DDR3)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Patriot Burst Elite 480GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
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    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
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    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
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    100Mbps
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    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
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    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 2.3 graphics drivers, WEI score 5.1

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You should deactivate the other computer if you plan to use both at the same time. According to Microsoft using two computers with the same license is not allowed. But if you have the other computer as backup, and not for everyday use, why deactivate it? Technically you won't be using both computers at the same time, you will mostly use Windows 11. I would not deactivate it. Nobody can come to your house and check without a Warrant, it's illegal. If you are a business, like a small office, things are different. But for home use I wouldn't care. Small business can purchase a genuine license for just 50€. Since it is medialess, there is no DVD or USB and package to pay for, you can only buy the key which is sent to you by e-mail. Then you download Windows 11 ISO from Microsoft's site and use the key to activate. Perfectly legal.
Well here is the thing - once a pc has a digital licence, you cannot deactivate old pc - it is impossible. So even if you use slmgr etc, the digital licence remains. So users cannot comply with EULA!


So the ONLY way you can comply with EULA is to actually remove Windows altogether!

I stress that I do not advocate piracy, but MS have created a situation whereby the only way to comply with EULA really is to not reuse a key if you wish to keep Windows on old PC but buy a new one for new PC. Back in W7/8 days, you could deactivate W7 or W8 and people did in case key got blocked.

So I agree that one should consider the spirit of EULA i.e. one licence per pc. If you are only intending to use one pc at a time, and licence is transferable anyway, then that (as you allude to) is (imo) reasonable.

If however, you give pc away to a sibling say, then that is more questionable.

The really absurd case is if you wipe windows from old pc, and sell it (without windows), and user installs same edition it will activate - is new user guilty of piracy or just "lucky"?

Equally, if you sell pc with it activated, then as seller you are technically selling a pirated version if you reuse same key.

Frankly, I do not think MS could sue individuals as any even mediocre lawyer could drive a juggernaut through the holes in the EULA.
 

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    I7
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    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
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    Integrated Intel Iris XE
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    Realtek built in
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    N/A
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    1920x1080
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    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
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    Yep, got one
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    Yep, got one
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    Stella Artois
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    Built in
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    Bluetooth , wired
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    72 Mb/s :-(
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The really absurd case is if you wipe windows from old pc, and sell it (without windows), and user installs same edition it will activate - is new user guilty of piracy or just "lucky"?
Not just whole PCs, there are well reported cases on Ten Forums of second hand motherboards that came with an unexpected digital licence.
 

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    Windows 11 Home
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    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
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    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
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    Radeon Graphics
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    laptop screen
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    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
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    1TB HDD
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    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October.


    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    i5 M 520
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
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    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
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    500GB HDD
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    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround.


    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

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Let's not be paranoid. Your old PC could have died and you buy a new PC. Then what? You would also buy a new Windows license for it? Not me, I would use the existing license and activate by phone, if I cannot do so online. As long as it still activates, that's OK with me. If the key has reached the maximum activations, then I would consider buying a new key. As long as you don't sell or give away your old PC you are perfectly legal.

Before you judge me, answer this simple question... Haven't you ever done it (use an old key on a new computer)? I am sure you did! "The sinless let cast the first stone", as Jesus had said.
 
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    Windows 11 Pro 21H2 64-bit (build 22000.739)
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v21H2 (build 22000.739)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Asus GT620-1GD3 (nVidia GeForce GT 620 1GB DDR3)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Patriot Burst Elite 480GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 2.3 graphics drivers, WEI score 5.1

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Yes, you can use a old key you simply call MS and tell them the PC died and they will deactivate the license on said pc and activate it on your new PC i have done many times, with MS support over the years. but if you just do it and they see you have it active on 2 pc and it's a 1 license key they could theoretically deactivate it on the pc, if they would or not i don't no.
 

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  • OS
    windows 11
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo IdeaPad Gaming 3 15IMH05
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-10300H CPU @ 2.50GHz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    16gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    intel UHD Graphics/nvidia geforce GTX 1650
    Sound Card
    built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    built in
    Screen Resolution
    native 1080p
    Hard Drives
    256gb nvme / 1tb hard drive all built in. and 2 external 1tb seagate drives
    PSU
    brick
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    laptop
    Cooling
    fans
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    built in
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    logitech gaming mouse
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That's true only if you run both computers at the same time, otherwise there is no way to know.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 21H2 64-bit (build 22000.739)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v21H2 (build 22000.739)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Asus GT620-1GD3 (nVidia GeForce GT 620 1GB DDR3)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Patriot Burst Elite 480GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 2.3 graphics drivers, WEI score 5.1

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Not just whole PCs, there are well reported cases on Ten Forums of second hand motherboards that came with an unexpected digital licence.
For sure, this will happen as digital licence is attached to mobo.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0

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Yes, but if the rest of the hardware is different from the original, it should ask again for activation. The new user will benefit only if he gets the PC as it is, not only the motherboard. Most will install Windows anyway before giving it.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 21H2 64-bit (build 22000.739)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v21H2 (build 22000.739)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Asus GT620-1GD3 (nVidia GeForce GT 620 1GB DDR3)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Patriot Burst Elite 480GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 2.3 graphics drivers, WEI score 5.1

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Let's not be paranoid. Your old PC could have died and you buy a new PC. Then what? You would also buy a new Windows license for it? Not me, I would use the existing license and activate by phone, if I cannot do so online. As long as it still activates, that's OK with me. If the key has reached the maximum activations, then I would consider buying a new key. As long as you don't sell or give away your old PC you are perfectly legal.

Before you judge me, answer this simple question... Haven't you ever done it (use an old key on a new computer)? I am sure you did! "The sinless let cast the first stone", as Jesus had said.
As an atheist, the last sentence has no meaning to me.

Who was questioning reusing a licence of old mobo/pc died. MS introduced the link of digital licence for precisely that situation, and is 100% legitimate albeit EULA doew not truly cover that case.

In any case, you obviously do not realise the limit on activations of a key was only a sift limit and you could reset it using telephone activation.


Moreover, keys in Windows 10 are merely used to verify you have a valid licence - they jey is not the licence in the classic W7/8 sense. Think of the digital licence as a lock and the key as just that. You use the key to unlock the lock. Once unlocked, the key is never needed again as a digital licence cannot be revoked i.e. lock is permanently open.

As the licensing mechanism is different, and there is (as far as we can tell) no record of what key invoked a digital licence, I very much doubt MS even bother keepingin a record of number of times key has been used to get a digital licence.

In the end, it is all about honesty - I like to think vast majority are honest and would not pursue wholesale piracy. However, MS introduced a lot of leniency with Windows 10 e.g. you can activate with oem keys on new devices, can run unactivated etc.

MS are clearly not interested in minor EULA violation, as it has minor financial impact, and they probably make more out of advertising.. However, they do block volune licence keys used for wholesale piracy. They are only interested in the major teansgressors who do hurt them financially.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
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    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0

spapakons

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Digital license is linked to the hardware. If the hardware is different, it might not be possible to activate again with the same key.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 21H2 64-bit (build 22000.739)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v21H2 (build 22000.739)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Asus GT620-1GD3 (nVidia GeForce GT 620 1GB DDR3)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Patriot Burst Elite 480GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 2.3 graphics drivers, WEI score 5.1

NavyLCDR

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Yes, but if the rest of the hardware is different from the original, it should ask again for activation. The new user will benefit only if he gets the PC as it is, not only the motherboard. Most will install Windows anyway before giving it.
That is not true. The unique hardware ID is based 99% on the characteristics of the motherboard, and the other components do not make up enough of a percentage in the calculation to change the computer's unique hardware ID.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Education
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 7773
    CPU
    Intel i7-8550U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce MX150
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
    SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
    Internet Speed
    Fast!

Bree

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but if the rest of the hardware is different from the original, it should ask again for activation.
@NavyLCDR is correct, the motherboard is the main part of the hardware ID. Kari explains it in detail here....

The Windows 10 Digital License is based on HWID 3. As long as the Windows edition, motherboard and CPU remain the same, once the computer has been activated, all future clean installs on that computer also will activate automatically. Note that all HWIDs exclude storage media entirely. Thus, on a PC with Windows 10 activated, you can replace its storage (HDD / SSD) devices with one or more new ones and clean install Windows 10 on a new disk. Even so, the PC will activate automatically based on that machine’s existing digital license.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB HDD
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October.


    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    i5 M 520
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround.


    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

NavyLCDR

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As the licensing mechanism is different, and there is (as far as we can tell) no record of what key invoked a digital licence, I very much doubt MS even bother keepingin a record of number of times key has been used to get a digital licence.
Microsoft does track the number of times a product key is used on different computers within certain time periods. Use a product key too many times on too many different computers within a certain time period and it will get blocked from automatic online use and then the user must call Microsoft in order to obtain activations with the product key until a certain time period of no use has passed and it will get unlocked. There is also a threshold where the product key will get blocked permanently. I do not know what it is, but let's say the same product key is used to activate 100 different computers in a single day - Microsoft is going to block it. There would be no legitimate reason for the owner of the product key to use it to activate 100 different computers in a single day.

Also, this is what the current EULA states regarding the transfer of the license:
Stand-alone software. If you acquired the software as stand-alone software (and also if you upgraded from software you acquired as stand-alone software), you may transfer the software to another device that belongs to you. You may also transfer the software to a device owned by someone else if (i) you are the first licensed user of the software and (ii) the new user agrees to the terms of this agreement. You may use the backup copy we allow you to make or the media that the software came on to transfer the software. Every time you transfer the software to a new device, you must remove the software from the prior device. You may not transfer the software to share licenses between devices.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Education
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 7773
    CPU
    Intel i7-8550U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce MX150
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
    SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
    Internet Speed
    Fast!

poe

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I tried my Win 7 Pro key (that had been used successfully on the Win 10 machine) on the Win 11 Home machine I'm setting up - no luck.

Then I unlinked the Win 10 machine from my MS account and tried the key again. Still no luck. (The Win 10 machine was the only item in my MS account until I set up the new Win 11 machine a few days ago)

Was unlinking the Win 10 machine from my MS account the proper thing to do? If yes, is it time to just spend the money for a Pro license?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8940
    CPU
    i7 11700
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
    Hard Drives
    256 GB SSD
    1 TB HDD

spapakons

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Just a minute! Since you have a Windows 7 Professional key, you can use it to activate Windows 11 Pro. Home version is incompatible with the key, so it won't activate. Upgrade to Pro using the key.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 21H2 64-bit (build 22000.739)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v21H2 (build 22000.739)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Asus GT620-1GD3 (nVidia GeForce GT 620 1GB DDR3)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Patriot Burst Elite 480GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 2.3 graphics drivers, WEI score 5.1

Always Why

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During installation you are asked to log into your Microsoft Account using your account email address. A successful log-in means your W10 or W11 machine is good to go. Might be a couple extra steps but always using the same Microsoft Account is the best way to go IMHO.

NOTE: I always recommend to my friends to create a Microsoft account and logging into that account during setup. You can skip the key during setup. Once logged into your Microsoft account your good to go. example email address: 123*****@outlook.com .

PLUS: Anything you ever purchased through your primary Microsoft account is permanently in your Purchase History.

You don't have to have an outlook.com account. You just have to remember the email address and password you used on your prior machine. An upgrade from W10 to W11 uses your already connected Microsoft Account email address.

When you visit your account through a web browser and log-in, you can click "Devices" and see all your registered devices. In my case, three machines registered under the same Microsoft Account.

Still using my first email address for all interactions and sites at Microsoft: ***********@hotmail.com (Microsoft owns Hotmail, MSN, Live and Outlook.
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    W10 Home - Custom Build
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus/Corsair/nVidia/Noctua/Intel/NZXT
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K
    Motherboard
    Asus Z370-e
    Memory
    32GB Corsair 3000Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 3070 Ti FTW3 Ultra
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 (scaled 125%) (144Mhz Refresh Rate)
    PSU
    Corsair 850 Watts Gold Modular
    Cooling
    Noctua D15
    Internet Speed
    900mbps down/45mbps up
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