To activate Win 11, what types of older license are good?


spapakons

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If I remember correctly Windows 7 Enterprise and Windows 7 Ultimate have almost the same features, the former is for Enterprises and the latter for enthusiast users that want the maximum features. That could explain why 7 Ultimate installed 11 Enterprise, but it is weird nevertheless. There is no need to reinstall, you can use the command prompt to install the generic Pro (or your Windows 7 Pro) key to go to Windows 11 Pro version and then activate using a valid Windows 7 or 8 or 10 Pro key.
 

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Then by "rigmarole" I assume you mean simply change the product key to VK7JG-NPHTM-C97JM-9MPGT-3V66T to upgrade to Pro.

But, if you upgrade the installed Windows 10 Pro to Windows 11, it will upgrade to Windows 11 Pro.
Ho, ho, ho! It should be simple, but I found it was anything but. I have three desktops - the oldest had the free Pro update via the Win 7 Pro version I had previously and was no problem. The Win 7 came from the even earlier XP Pro and the desktop I bought in 2017 to replace one from 2008 and much earlier. That is still OK but very slow. I switch it on once a week and it updates itself to the latest Win 10 preview, features and updates without any problem.

As its slow, I decided to buy this one and it came with Win 10 Home from the manufacturer. After I had got used to it and installed the extra programmes I use, I went through the Upgrade to Pro via MS Store using the Settings page. After the install I got a message that Upgrade Failed and all changes would be removed to restore the original OS. MS Store service couldn't fix it and in the end made a case for free technical Support via Remote Access who took 4 hours to fix it. Months later a regular update changed my version to Enterprise and that was the end of successful Updates. 5 months later when the whole OS finally crashed Acer offered to put the whole install back to factory default for free and that worked, but left me with Home. My MS account showed the desktop as having Pro! But the System page showed Home. Eventually another remote session showed that the Store record apparently hadn't transferred to the digital license after the new install, so it was corrected and when the desktop woke up after a long nap, everything finally agreed that "ITS PRO"! Does that count as a rigmarole?

By the way, I started computing in the 1960s timesharing on a main frame Honeywell over a tie line using a teleprinter as the interface and punched tape as the programmes inputs. Since then I have worked my way through most OS iterations, including the small trial rollout of XP Pro. If you still don't believe me about the rigmarole, have a look on many forums for messages about systems getting changed to Enterprise when it should have been Pro. No shortage of those.

Tony
 

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You could try to force the Windows 7/8/10 Pro key and then activate using the terminal. Right-click on the start button and open a Windows Terminal as Administrator. Then type this code:

Code:
slmgr.vbs /ipk xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx
slmgr.vbs /ato

The first line installs the key (where xxxxx... you type your actual key including the dashes) and the second activates it. Microsoft modified the code so it requires a valid key. The generic keys might not work. The same command can also be used to change from one version of Windows to another by typing the respective key.
 

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    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
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I used my Window 8.1 Pro retail product key, and entering slmgr /dli from an admin command prompt shows Win 11 to be the Pro version retail channel. Even on a 12.5 year old PC that had an OEM copy of Windows 10 Pro installed on it and the Windows 11 Pro installed from the first "leaked" ISO are seen as Pro (retail channel) versions. All three installations use the same Microsoft account. Very strange, but I'm not going to complain.

I would have to disagree. I just activated Windows 11 Pro with a Windows 7 Pro OEM product key from a COA label. Once Windows 11 accepted the Windows 7 product key and activated, the installed product key changed to the generic OEM product key of NF6HC-QH89W-F8WYV-WWXV4-WFG6P.

I have a Pro key from old job I have been using for awhile. I was able to verify it using ShowKeyPlus utility. I am on W10 Dell Inspiron 7373. My MS acct shows the device is activated with Pro. But dont think any digital key is there.

slmgr /dli shows retail channel

I want to buy a new laptop that comes with W11 Home. How easy would it be to utilize my existing Pro key to get W11 Pro (or perhaps rollback to W10 Pro) on my new PC?
 

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Go to Settings, System, Activation. Click on the change product key, type your Pro key to upgrade.
 

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    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
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    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
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    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
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    Asus GT620-1GD3 (nVidia GeForce GT 620 1GB DDR3)
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Maybe you can use the keys from Win 7, but you just can't upgrade/update straight from Win 7.
Well you can try (as I did) but you'll only be able to keep your files. Probably won't get a digital license either (I didn't test that, I quit at this point).
Curiosity got the better of me, so I repeated the test and went the whole way.


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As expected, upgrading an activated Windows 7 to Windows 11 does not use the W7 activation to get a digital licence for 11.

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    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October.


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    Dell Lattitude E4310
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    i5 M 520
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    0T6M8G
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    4GB
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    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround.


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As expected, upgrading an activated Windows 7 to Windows 11 does not use the W7 activation to get a digital licence for 11.


It does if you stop at Windows 10 along the way, like I did.

I clean installed Windows 10 using my Windows 7 retail product key, and Windows 10 was given a digital license.
Then, I did an In-Place upgrade from Win 10 to Win 11. And Win 11 ended up activated with a digital license.

Which is what I meant when I said you can't upgrade straight from Windows 7.
You'll get the OS as you've shown, but the activation won't come with.
Unless you stop at Win 10 along the way.


I guess we still have to test whether a Win 7 product key can be used on a clean install of Win 11.
I would imagine, that you CAN do that.
 
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    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
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    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
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    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
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    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

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It does if you stop at Windows 10 along the way, like I did.
Yes, I wanted to test if an in-place upgrade to 11 would at least pick up the activation from the installed Windows 7 - and it didn't.

This test was on one of my two W7 machines that have never been upgraded to 10 and so have no digital licence yet. I keep them to one side just for testing activation questions like this.

To be certain that it was just W11, and that MS hadn't turned off giving digital licences for W7 to W10 upgrades I have now restored its W7 and upgraded it to W10. I can confirm that the upgrade to 10 still gets a digital licence (and that I now have just one 'virgin' machine left for any further tests).
 

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    8GB
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    laptop screen
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    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
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    1TB HDD
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    Defender
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    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October.


    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.
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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Laptop
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    Dell Lattitude E4310
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    i5 M 520
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    0T6M8G
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    4GB
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    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB HDD
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    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
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    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround.


    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

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I guess we still have to test whether a Win 7 product key can be used on a clean install of Win 11.
I think that Kari (post #24) and glnz (post #26) have answered that.

Kari said:
Just yesterday, I activated W11 PRO on a Hyper-V VM of October 5 Windows official release using an old, never used Windows 7 Professional product key.
glnz said:
in my case, an OEM sticker key for Win 7 Pro worked
 

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    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
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    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
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    Radeon Graphics
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    laptop screen
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    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB HDD
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October.


    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    i5 M 520
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround.


    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

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Microsoft just doesn't think the same way as the rest of the world.
They could make things simple, but oh no... :D




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To be fair, I think they are "trying" to "fix" the licensing fiasco.
Long ago, they should have used digital licensing. You spend say, $300 once, and then can use whatever version of Windows you want... lifetime license.

It wouldn't matter if you did clean install, update, upgrade, etc., the license would "activate".

To make money, they could just sell "plugins" for the OS through the MS Store.
There's enough new customers being born every day, to make this workable from a bottom line point of view.

Parent's could buy their kids a lifetime license for their tenth birthday or something.
People could give them as gifts, etc.

Check just the 7th item (Net population growth today), in these "live" statistics...
At $300 a pop, that's approx. $25-30 million/day.
And that's "just" the Windows lifetime licenses.

 
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    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
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    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
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    (onboard) Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
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    Dell U3011 30"
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    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    LG GH22LS30 CD/DVD Burner
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    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
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    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
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    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
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    Logitech Optical M-100
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    100/100
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    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
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    Built by Ghot®
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    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
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    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    100/100
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?183088-5000-B-E-on-M2N32-SLI-Dlx-Overclocked&p=2891724#post2891724

spapakons

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I haven't seen an OEM or retail Windows 11 license yet, I always upgrade from Windows 10 or do a clean installation with an earlier Windows version key. What I have discovered is that all keys that work in Windows 10 also activate 11. That means any Windows 7 or 8 or 8.1 or 10 key will let you clean install the respective version of Windows 11. If that key has not reached the maximum number of activations allowed, will also activate the respective version of Windows 11. In worst case you may need to activate by phone. So don't worry, use any suitable key you can find. Regarding upgrade path, you cannot upgrade Windows 7 directly to 11, you must first upgrade to Windows 10. I haven't tested if this is also true for Windows 8 and 8.1, I suspect you also must first upgrade to Windows 10. So always keep a Windows 10 ISO handy.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 21H2 64-bit (build 22000.282)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    This is my test laptop, not fully updated yet. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v21H2 (build 22000.675)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Asus GT620-1GD3 (nVidia GeForce GT 620 1GB DDR3)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Patriot Burst Elite 480GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 2.3 graphics drivers, WEI score 5.1

Bree

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What I have discovered is that all keys that work in Windows 10 also activate 11.
There is no such thing as a key specifically for Windows 10 or Windows 11, they are all now described by Microsoft in the Store as 'Windows 10/11' keys.

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB HDD
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October.


    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    i5 M 520
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround.


    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

spapakons

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You mean, if I get a computer with Windows 11 preinstalled (OEM key), I can format and clean install Windows 10 with the same key? I would not bet on that. Windows 10 keys can be used on 11, not the opposite.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 21H2 64-bit (build 22000.282)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    This is my test laptop, not fully updated yet. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v21H2 (build 22000.675)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Asus GT620-1GD3 (nVidia GeForce GT 620 1GB DDR3)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Patriot Burst Elite 480GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 2.3 graphics drivers, WEI score 5.1

Kari

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Windows 10 keys can be used on 11, not the opposite.
That is not true. Windows licenses and keys are the same for both 10 and 11. A computer with preinstalled Windows 11 OEM license will get a digital license allowing both 10 and 11 being automatically activated after further reinstalls, based on that existing digital license.

Windows 10/11 keys and digital licenses are edition specific, not version, language, and in case of W10, not bit architecture specific.

There is no such thing as a key specifically for Windows 10 or Windows 11, they are all now described by Microsoft in the Store as 'Windows 10/11' keys.
Exactly.

Kari
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 PRO x64 Dev
    Manufacturer/Model
    Hyper-V Virtual Machine (host in System 2 specs)
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-8550U
    Memory
    6 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Microsoft Hyper-V Video
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Laptop display (17.1") & Samsung U28E590 (27.7")
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 PRO x64 Dev Channel
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP HP ProBook 470 G5
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-8550U
    Motherboard
    HP 837F KBC Version 02.3D.00
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel(R) UHD Graphics 620 & NVIDIA GeForce 930MX
    Sound Card
    Conexant ISST Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Laptop display (17.1") & Samsung U28E590 (27.7")
    Hard Drives
    128 GB SSD & 1 TB HDD
    Mouse
    Wireless Logitech MSX mouse
    Keyboard
    Wireless Logitech MK710 keyboard
    Internet Speed
    100 Mbps down, 20 Mbps up
    Browser
    Edge Chromium Dev Channel
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    2 * 3 TB USB HDD
    6 TB WD Mirror NAS

spapakons

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Windows 11 Pro 21H2 64-bit (build 22000.282)
Good to know. So if any friend is not satisfied with Windows 11 he can downgrade to Windows 10 for free.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 21H2 64-bit (build 22000.282)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    This is my test laptop, not fully updated yet. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v21H2 (build 22000.675)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Asus GT620-1GD3 (nVidia GeForce GT 620 1GB DDR3)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Patriot Burst Elite 480GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 2.3 graphics drivers, WEI score 5.1

NavyLCDR

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I agree with @Kari. Windows 10 and 11 both use the exact same product keys and digital licenses. They are completely compatible with each other, both ways.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Education
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 7773
    CPU
    Intel i7-8550U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce MX150
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
    SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
    Internet Speed
    Fast!

diggy33

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I just bought my mother in law a new laptop - could I upgrade 11 Home with one of my existing Windows 10 Pro or Enterprise keys?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-8750H
    Memory
    48GB

NavyLCDR

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You could upgrade her Home to Pro with an unused product key, meaning that whatever OS was previously activated with that product key is uninstalled first -assuming a retail product key.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Education
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 7773
    CPU
    Intel i7-8550U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce MX150
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
    SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
    Internet Speed
    Fast!

spapakons

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If it doesn't activate automatically, choose activation by phone. When asked reply you are an individual, not company (even if you want to activate a work computer). If the key cannot be activated you will hear a respective message. If it can be activated again, you will hear the activation code. If you cannot type it fast enough, write it down to type it later. Be careful, if you are asked in how many computers you have used this key reply ONE, otherwise you won't be given the activation code!
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 21H2 64-bit (build 22000.282)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    This is my test laptop, not fully updated yet. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v21H2 (build 22000.675)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Asus GT620-1GD3 (nVidia GeForce GT 620 1GB DDR3)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Patriot Burst Elite 480GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 2.3 graphics drivers, WEI score 5.1
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