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So my internal D drive is my 3 Tb drive. It's healthy, all is well with the drive itself but at some point I must have set up Windows to do incremental backups but man it's constant and noisy. So I looked around my settings and services to see if there was a way to curtail so much backing up constantly. I can't remember what files and folders I chose to back up but apparently it's allot. The total backup so far is 1.11 Tb's and well I don't think I need all that as the system and my programs comes to about 500 Gig's total so yea, not sure what's going on there. The backup folder is called File History.

So my question would be how to delete some older backups to free up some space and looking in the File History folder it's not apparent what I'm looking at! The second question would be to figure out where I have the settings so I can set up things to be a bit more simplistic as this is just too much! I THINK I'm using the built in backup service on my Win 11 machine but in the beginning when I was having so much trouble getting the system stabilized I may have installed someone suggested here but looking through my Program files I really don't see anything. I did have Cobian Backup on board but I wasn't using it so uninstalled that.

And yes, I am aware that my backups are suggested to backed up on an external drive but I don't have any drives externally for that sort of use. All my externals are being used to backup (manually) my CG works so I can grab and go.....

Thanks for any help!

Richard
 

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So my internal D drive is my 3 Tb drive. It's healthy, all is well with the drive itself but at some point I must have set up Windows to do incremental backups but man it's constant and noisy. So I looked around my settings and services to see if there was a way to curtail so much backing up constantly. I can't remember what files and folders I chose to back up but apparently it's allot. The total backup so far is 1.11 Tb's and well I don't think I need all that as the system and my programs comes to about 500 Gig's total so yea, not sure what's going on there. The backup folder is called File History.

So my question would be how to delete some older backups to free up some space and looking in the File History folder it's not apparent what I'm looking at! The second question would be to figure out where I have the settings so I can set up things to be a bit more simplistic as this is just too much! I THINK I'm using the built in backup service on my Win 11 machine but in the beginning when I was having so much trouble getting the system stabilized I may have installed someone suggested here but looking through my Program files I really don't see anything. I did have Cobian Backup on board but I wasn't using it so uninstalled that.

And yes, I am aware that my backups are suggested to backed up on an external drive but I don't have any drives externally for that sort of use. All my externals are being used to backup (manually) my CG works so I can grab and go.....

Thanks for any help!

Richard


First... don't use Windows backup. Even MS recommends you use a 3rd party backup system.
Windows backup just isn't reliable.
So just delete all the backups, get 3rd party backup software, and make a fresh backup. ASAP

Most on here use Macrium Reflect or AOMEI Backupper.
Both have free and paid versions.

Reflect 8 Free: Reflect Free Edition






AOMEI free: Download Free Windows Backup Software | AOMEI Backupper
 

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So looking at the AOMEI one since there are some complaints about Macrium at the top of this forum but how do I get rid of over a Tb of unwanted data?
 

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So looking at the AOMEI one since there are some complaints about Macrium at the top of this forum but how do I get rid of over a Tb of unwanted data?


As for Macrium... I've been using it since May 2020... not one single problem. But, they both work.
Whichever one you pick... make SURE to make the bootable media, so if needed, you can get to your backups if Windows won't boot.

You drag a big box around it all, then right click and choose: Delete.
Don't forget to disable Windows backup as well. :-)
 

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at some point I must have set up Windows to do incremental backups but man it's constant and noisy. So I looked around my settings and services to see if there was a way to curtail so much backing up constantly. I can't remember what files and folders I chose to back up but apparently it's allot. The total backup so far is 1.11 Tb's and well I don't think I need all that as the system and my programs comes to about 500 Gig's total so yea, not sure what's going on there. The backup folder is called File History.
File History is a built in function of Windows 10/11 and makes copies of your user files to a File History folder. It was prominently suggested in W10 but somewhat hidden away in W11. Seems MS now sugests Ondrive and the Cloud as their preferred backup method.

You can both restrict which user folders are backed up by File History, and how many previous versions will be kept. Sounds like you did neither when you set it up.


how do I get rid of over a Tb of unwanted data?
It should also be possible to clean up your File History folder.


My personal preference is to rely on Macrium Reflect as my primary backup, but I do also have File History turned on for just a few key document folders.
 

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No matter what you decide on... have a backup solution that is local and accessible without Windows or the internet.
Do NOT trust the Microsoft solutions... solely.

I could link 1000 topics about disaster that arises from trusting ONLY MS solutions, but I'm too damn lazy. ^^

So I made a picture to explain it...

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HaHa,

Cannot agree more.
But even Microsoft suggests 3rd party backup software than itself when backup. :sneaky:

No matter what you decide on... have a backup solution that is local and accessible without Windows or the internet.
Do NOT trust the Microsoft solutions... solely.
 

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File History ... was prominently suggested in W10 but somewhat hidden away in W11. Seems MS now sugests Ondrive and the Cloud as their preferred backup method.
I hope 'File History' won't slowly go down the path of 'Windows 7 Backup and Restore' :(
 

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I hope 'File History' won't slowly go down the path of 'Windows 7 Backup and Restore' :(
I suspect it will. Some features like being able to add your own folders/files to the backup have already removed in Win 11.
 

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Some years ago, I had an event that confirmed what I thought I had known for some time, about doing PC backups.
I came home from work one day, and my computer and a disk bank sitting next to it was GONE!
I'd been Burgled while I was at work.
A problem with the OS or even the hard drive, I could handle easily, but when my whole computer was just GONE, that was a whole different matter. :devilish:

Fortunately, in those days, we had a Computer parts warehouse store located nearby. It only took a day to get the parts I needed, and to put a new PC desktop together. Both my backup/restore program and my most recent backup of my C: drive were on CD's securely put away in a separate room, from where my PC had been located.

I booted my new PC with the bootable Backup/Restore CD and then restored my most recent backup image for Windows.
In less than an hour, my new PC was up and running as if nothing had ever happened.

So that served to prove to me, that my Backup theory, and regimen was correct all along.

That is, that the Backup/Restore program should be on some bootable media and NOT on the PC,
and then the Image of the C: drive must be again, on a removable media, and not on the computer or anywhere close by.
Ultimately, Off Premises, is best. (that's how banks and Govt agencies handle their backups)
And lastly, the Image File that's created from the PC MUST contain, the drive's Boot Sector, MBR and everything in the C: partition. So that if it has to be restored to a new (blank) HD, it will be able to boot up the system.

I've followed that regimen to this day, and in spite of numerous HD crashes over the years, I've never lost a BIT of data.

Y'all have a great day now, Y'hear?
TM :cool:
 
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