TPM compatibility on older M/B's


SEP555

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I have an older pc (9yrs old) that has a tpm header so i can put a module into it. As the M/B is 9 years old, tpm 1.2 was the only version. Would the m/b accept a 2.0 module or require a bios firmware update?
 

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It may, but at 9 years old I'd bet your CPU wouldn't be compatible either.
 

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    Windows 11 Workstation
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    doofenshmirtz evil incorporated
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    Ryzen 9 5950X
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    Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Formula
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    Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 64GB (4x16GB) 3600MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4
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    Surface Laptop
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    i7
aye mine is way off, hoping they'll accept more gens down the line.
Seems crazy that an xp laptop with half the ram it should have runs win10 fine for what I need but i can't install win11 with an i7-3370

I assume if the cpu is compatible then the m/b will be therefore you'll be fine and thus why i've found no info on installing tpm 2.0 on older m/b's
 

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yup reading other pages here, looks like modules, motherboard companies, circuitry even 14-1 pin numbers are incompatible with each other, so no old with new. Really looks like a new m/b and cpu with fTPM is the only way forward.
 

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It depends on whether the firmware TPM is flashable.

If it isn't you're probably stuck with 1.2. You can see whether your manufacturer's TPM Configuration Utility will let you complete an upgrade.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 24H2
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    Laptop
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    HP ZBook G2
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    Intel® Core i7 5500u
    Motherboard
    HP
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    8 GB
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    Intel HD Family Graphics AMD Firepro 4150M
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    Realtek High Audio
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    Windows 11 Pro 24H2
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    HP Zbook G4
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    Xeon 1535m v6
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    HP
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    32 GB
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    AMD Quadro Pro 4100
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    Bang and Olufson Audio
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    1TB SSD
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I have an older pc (9yrs old) that has a tpm header so i can put a module into it. As the M/B is 9 years old, tpm 1.2 was the only version. Would the m/b accept a 2.0 module or require a bios firmware update?


 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3880 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
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    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
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    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
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    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
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    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
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    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
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    Logitech Optical M-100
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    300/300
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    Firefox (latest)
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    Bitdefender Internet Security
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    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
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    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
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    PC/Desktop
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    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
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    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
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    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
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    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
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    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
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    Onboard
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    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
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    up to 2048 x 1536
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    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
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    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
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    300/300
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    Firefox 3.x ??
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    Symantec (Norton)
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    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
It depends on whether the firmware TPM is flashable.
Unfortunately, 3rd gen Intel CPUs don't have firmware TPMs.

That said, Windows 11 can still be run on 3rd gen systems by simply bypassing the official requirements and accepting the fact that you are running in a technically unsupported configuration.

I don't run Win 10 any longer. Every machine I own is on Win 11 including systems a lot older than that 3rd gen system :-)
 

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    Win11 Pro 24H2
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Kamrui Mini PC, Model CK10
    CPU
    Intel i5-12450H
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Integrated
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    HP Envy 32
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    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 2TB NVMe SSD
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    120W "Brick"
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    Corsair K70 Mechanical Keyboard
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    Logitech MX Master 3
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    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
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    Windows Defender
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    Win11 Pro 23H2
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    Laptop
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    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
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    Intel i7-1255U
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    16 GB
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    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
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    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
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    13.3-inch IPS Display
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    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
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    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
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    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
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    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
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    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
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    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
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    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
PCs made before 2013 don't have TPM at all and MBPs have never had them.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 24H2
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP ZBook G2
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    Intel® Core i7 5500u
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    HP
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    8 GB
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    Intel HD Family Graphics AMD Firepro 4150M
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    Realtek High Audio
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    1 TB SSD
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    HP USB Mouse
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    Zone Alarm Free Antivirus/Zone Alarm Free Firewall NEXT GEN
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    Windows 11 Pro 24H2
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    HP Zbook G4
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    Xeon 1535m v6
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    HP
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    32 GB
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    AMD Quadro Pro 4100
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    Bang and Olufson Audio
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    1TB SSD
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    HP USB Mouse
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    Zone Alarm Free Antivirus/Zone Alarm Free Firewall NEXT GEN
You do know there are such things as addon TPM cards? You don't say its a laptop, so I am guessing it could be used in your desktop, @SEP555
 

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    11
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebrew
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 2600X Six-Core Processor
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    ASUS TUF B450M-PRO GAMING
    Memory
    2 x 16GB Kingston KHX3200c 1604/16GX
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT
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    /
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    2 x Dell U2720Q
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    2 x 3869x2160
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    NVME Samsung 960 EVO Pro
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    Fractal Design 7 Compact
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    Roccat Horde Aimo
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    Logitech G703
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Of course! I have an HP mobile workstation and it appears I'm stuck with TPM 1.2 because the HP TPM Configuration Utility aborts and refuses to complete the firmware update.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP ZBook G2
    CPU
    Intel® Core i7 5500u
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Family Graphics AMD Firepro 4150M
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Audio
    Hard Drives
    1 TB SSD
    Mouse
    HP USB Mouse
    Antivirus
    Zone Alarm Free Antivirus/Zone Alarm Free Firewall NEXT GEN
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Zbook G4
    CPU
    Xeon 1535m v6
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Quadro Pro 4100
    Sound Card
    Bang and Olufson Audio
    Hard Drives
    1TB SSD
    Mouse
    HP USB Mouse
    Antivirus
    Zone Alarm Free Antivirus/Zone Alarm Free Firewall NEXT GEN
Of course! I have an HP mobile workstation and it appears I'm stuck with TPM 1.2 because the HP TPM Configuration Utility aborts and refuses to complete the firmware update.
Checked on the HP forums? Must be others with similar issues, and HP also has a habit of making support threads in to support tickets...at least on the server sections.
 

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  • OS
    11
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebrew
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 2600X Six-Core Processor
    Motherboard
    ASUS TUF B450M-PRO GAMING
    Memory
    2 x 16GB Kingston KHX3200c 1604/16GX
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT
    Sound Card
    /
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Dell U2720Q
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3869x2160
    Hard Drives
    NVME Samsung 960 EVO Pro
    Case
    Fractal Design 7 Compact
    Cooling
    Air
    Keyboard
    Roccat Horde Aimo
    Mouse
    Logitech G703
    Internet Speed
    100/100
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    Edge
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    Bitdefender Total

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