Update on Windows 11 minimum system requirements and PC Health Check app


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Today’s blog post provides two updates. First, an update on Windows 11 minimum system requirements based, in part, on feedback from the Windows Insider community. Second, information on the updated PC Health Check app that is now available to Windows Insiders.

Since the introduction of Windows 11, we have received valuable feedback from the Windows Insider community, our fans, customers and partners. Thank you for being a part of the release of Windows 11, coming at a time when the PC is playing a more central role in the way we connect, work, learn, create and play.

In June, we heard your questions about how we set the Windows 11 minimum system requirements and shared more information on the established principles that guided us in setting them. And as a team, we committed to exploring through Windows Insider testing and with OEMs whether there were devices running on Intel 7th Generation and AMD Zen 1 processors that met our principles.

Following the results of our testing, we are making a small number of additions to the compatible processor list (explained further below), but otherwise will maintain the minimum system requirements as originally set. We have concluded that the compatible 64-bit processors selected, 4GB of memory, 64GB of storage, UEFI secure boot, graphics requirements and TPM 2.0 are the right minimum system requirements to deliver on the principles we established to best support you.

We did identify a set of PC models that meet the principles while running on Intel 7th Gen processors that we did not originally include in our minimum system requirements. Based on those findings, we have expanded the list of compatible 64-bit processors to include the following:
After carefully analyzing the first generation of AMD Zen processors in partnership with AMD, together we concluded that there are no additions to the supported CPU list. We will be updating the PC Health Check app to identify the correct systems with the newly added Intel CPUs in the coming weeks before the tool is released for general availability. Additionally, we will have more to share on the tools and reports IT Pros can use to understand their organization’s hardware eligibility at scale as we get closer to Windows 11 general availability later this year.

We have included more details below on our principles that guided us in establishing Windows 11 minimum system requirements. Here are some insights from the data we gathered over the last couple months that affirmed our decision.
  • Reliability: Devices that do not meet the minimum system requirements had 52% more kernel mode crashes. Devices that do meet the minimum system requirements had a 99.8% crash free experience.
  • Security: Windows 11 raises the baseline of Windows security by improving the security default configuration to combat increasing cyber-attacks. These requirements were informed based on trillions of signals from Microsoft’s threat intelligence as well as input from leading security experts like the NSA, UK National Cyber Security Center and Canadian Centre for Cyber Security. Additional details on the background and value of Windows 11 baseline are below.
  • Compatibility: People continue to increasingly use their PCs for video conferencing, productivity and gaming. To ensure all Windows 11 devices can run a core set of applications to meet those needs, we set the minimum system requirements to align with some of the most commonly used apps.
Following our announcement in June, we acknowledged that we missed an opportunity to provide clarity and accuracy through the PC Health Check app. Today, we are releasing an updated preview version of the PC Health Check app to Windows Insiders. This updated version expands the eligibility check functionality with more complete and improved messaging on eligibility and links to relevant support articles that include potential remediation steps – the screenshot below illustrates this. After a feedback period with Windows Insiders and with the additional updates for the newly added processors, we plan to re-release the PC Health Check app for general availability in the coming weeks. Today, we are also simultaneously releasing versions that support 64-bit Windows, 32-bit Windows, Windows on Arm and Windows 10 in S mode PCs to Windows Insiders. Windows Insiders can provide feedback on the PC Health Check app by going to Feedback Hub > Apps > PC Health Check.


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The eligibility check functionality in the PC Health Check app includes improved messaging on eligibility and links to relevant support articles that include potential remediation steps.

As our unprecedented number of Windows Insiders have shown, most people with eligible devices will choose to move to Windows 11 to experience all the new innovations across connection, productivity, creativity and play that it has to offer. For those who are using a PC that won’t upgrade, and who aren’t ready to transition to a new device, Windows 10 is the right choice. We will support Windows 10 through October 14, 2025 and we recently announced that the next feature update to Windows 10 is coming later this year. Whatever you decide, we are committed to supporting you and offering choice in your computing journey. If you want to see the full Windows 11 minimum system requirements, you can visit this page.

Here is some additional detail on the principles that guided Windows 11 minimum system requirements:
  • Reliability. Maintaining reliability over time is highly correlated with OEM and IHV driver support. The processors supported on Windows 11 are within OEM and IHV support and use modern (DCH) drivers. The move to modern drivers enables drivers and associated software to be installed and serviced in a coordinated manner through Windows Update and provides better mechanisms for tracking driver health. The result of this coordination is that system drivers are properly installed and functional after updates, providing a reliable experience when upgraded to Windows 11. From Windows Insider machines, those that did not meet the minimum system requirements had 52% more kernel mode crashes (blue screens) than those that did meet the requirements. Machines that met the requirements provided a 99.8% crash-free experience that is effectively managed by OEMs and IHVs through modern driver update management. Additionally, on unsupported hardware app hangs are 17% more likely and for first-party apps we see 43% more crashes.
  • Security: Windows 11 has raised the security baseline to make it the most secure version of Windows ever. We have used the more than 8.2 trillion signals from Microsoft’s threat intelligence, reverse engineering on attacks as well as input from leading experts like the NSA, UK National Cyber Security Center and Canadian Centre for Cyber Security to design a security baseline in Windows 11 that addresses increasing threats that software alone cannot tackle. We have carefully designed the hardware requirements and default security features based on an analysis of the most effective defenses. This analysis was based on the Microsoft data set of blocked attacks in 2020 which included 30 billion email threats, six billion threats to endpoint devices and 30 billion authentications. In addition to benefitting from these intelligence sources, Windows 11 enables proven security controls based on industry wide recommendations from global experts like the NSA and NCSC.
    • The Trusted Platform Module(TPM) requirement enables Windows 11 to be a true Passwordless operating system, addressing phishing and other password-based attacks that are easier for attackers to execute when the TPM is not present. In the FY20 Microsoft digital defense report, Microsoft identified 67% fewer compromises of organizations that disabled legacy authentication and moved towards Multi-factor Authentication (MFA)- or Passwordless-based systems like Windows Hello. With Hello, the TPM works together with a PIN or biometric camera/fingerprint reader to securely store a secret in hardware that replaces a user’s password during authentication and is much harder to steal or spoof. The TPM is also used for numerous other Windows 11 features such as Bitlocker and Device Encryption, which leverages the TPM to store disk encryption keys. Research from Forrester showed that the loss or theft of assets like smartphones and laptops were involved in 20% of the breaches reported by global security decision-makers in 2020. Bitlocker full disk encryption in Windows 11 limits the possibility of sensitive data loss from lost or stolen devices. The TPM is also used to “bind” web-based credentials securely to a machine, preventing extraction and theft of credential types seen in many recent breaches. Windows 11 requires TPM 2.0 vs 1.2 because of the security advantages it provides, particularly support for newer and stronger cryptographic algorithms.

    • The UEFI Secure Boot requirement ensures that a system boots with only code signed by either the device builder, the silicon vendor, or Microsoft. It does this by ensuring all code is signed by specific entities and by recording cryptographic hashes in hardware that can also be sent to the cloud to verify integrity. If a system can be compromised prior to the operating system boot, then all kernel, user and endpoint security tools can be completely undermined. The “NotPetya” attack, which cost hundreds of millions in damages, leveraged legacy bios to inject ransomware code before boot, which can now be mitigated by Secure Boot. The value and best practices of Secure Boot have also been validated by the U.S. National Security Agency. We have been requiring OEMs to ship using UEFI Secure Boot enabled since June 26, 2013 and want all Windows 11 devices to be able to provide that customer benefit.

    • In addition to increased reliability, the supported processors increase security capabilities at the chip level. These processors provide virtualization extensions and virtualization performance improvements. Windows 11 supports virtualization-based security (VBS) which enables several security capabilities, including memory integrity, also known as hypervisor-protected code integrity (HVCI). HVCI disables dynamic code injection into the Windows kernel. HVCI also provides driver control and ensures that all drivers loaded meet a policy of allowed drivers set by Microsoft and the user. VBS also enables credential protection for common enterprise credential types (such as NTLM) an attack technique seen in “pass-the-hash” style attacks, and is the basis for System Guard Runtime attestation, a zero-trust capability that provides tamper proof hardware-based health statements to the cloud as part of a chip-to-cloud zero trust approach. The United States Department of Defense (DoD) requires virtualization-based security on Windows 10 for their devices. While we are not requiring VBS when upgrading to Windows 11, we believe the security benefits it offers are so important that we wanted the minimum system requirements to ensure that every PC running Windows 11 can meet the same security the DoD relies on. In partnership with our OEM and silicon partners, we will be enabling VBS and HVCI on most new PCs over this next year. And we will continue to seek opportunities to expand VBS across more systems over time.
  • Compatibility. Windows 11 continues our strong commitment to compatibility. This means that devices can upgrade to Windows 11 and critical apps and devices will simply work. Raising the Windows 11 minimum system requirements enables us to better support apps and hardware for drivers and devices. Feedback also shows us that unsupported hardware is more likely to have older drivers that are incompatible with new OS features such as VBS. Supported hardware also comes with modern drivers, which helps ensure not only the reliability we mentioned earlier, but also great hardware compatibility. In addition, the new minimum system requirements establish a new baseline that aligns with the hardware needs of many of the most commonly used apps customers rely on today for teleconferencing, browsing, productivity and entertainment. Of course, certain features, apps, games and peripherals may have their own requirements that exceed our minimum system requirements so we encourage people who are buying new PCs to verify the requirements with the manufacturer of the specific products they will want to use.


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As far as I'm aware MS haven't officially stated anything, until there is an actual statement from Microsoft on it's own site, I would treat any of these reports with sceptism, especially from a site like the Verge.
I was pretty sure that there was official MS word that installation from ISO would skip the compliance check, but I can't seem to find the link/quote...
 

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I was pretty sure that there was official MS word that installation from ISO would skip the compliance check, but I can't seem to find the link/quote...
I still wonder if it's going to fully activate or not? Anyway. Time will tell.
 

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    Banana Junior 5600- G Series
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    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
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    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
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    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
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    AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
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    ASUSTek COMPUTER INC.
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    32GB
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    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080Ti
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    Edge
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    Microsoft Defender
I built a new computer for win11, but its my last, my others win10 x2 i will convert to a linux varity.
 

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    Me
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    i9 10850
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    MS-7C75
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    16GB
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    nVIDEA Geoforce 3070
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    Onboard
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    Samsung 55inch TV
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    water cooled
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    Intel i5-6500 3.5 Ghz quad core
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    Gigabyte GA-170-HD3
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    Corsair 16GB
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    Bitdefender
I still wonder if it's going to fully activate or not? Anyway. Time will tell.
Here's something interesting I just read in an article on Neowin
:

"Microsoft however is allowing users to install the OS on unsupported hardware too using the Windows 11 ISOs. But there's a catch here. Users who take this route will be notified that their device is running in an unsupported state.

While it wasn't clearly spelled out at the time what the firm exactly meant by this, Microsoft apparently later clarified that such unsupported PCs will also not receive Windows 11 updates, including crucial security ones which are often responsible for fixing dangerous vulnerabilities.

So essentially, anyone who wishes to jump on the Windows 11 train on an unsupported system will have to do so at their own risk as Microsoft seems unwilling to put any effort into supporting such hardware."
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro build 22000.65
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    PC/Desktop
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    HP Pavilion PC 570-p026
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    Intel Core i5 7400 @ 3 GHz
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    HP Model 82F2 (U3E1)
    Memory
    12 GB
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    Intel HD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer V173
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    500MB Samsung Evo+ SSD
    1TB Western Digital WDC WD10EZEX-60WN4A0 (SATA) 7200 RPM
    Internet Speed
    300/300 Mbs fiber
Here's something interesting I just read in an article on Neowin
:

"Microsoft however is allowing users to install the OS on unsupported hardware too using the Windows 11 ISOs. But there's a catch here. Users who take this route will be notified that their device is running in an unsupported state.

While it wasn't clearly spelled out at the time what the firm exactly meant by this, Microsoft apparently later clarified that such unsupported PCs will also not receive Windows 11 updates, including crucial security ones which are often responsible for fixing dangerous vulnerabilities.

So essentially, anyone who wishes to jump on the Windows 11 train on an unsupported system will have to do so at their own risk as Microsoft seems unwilling to put any effort into supporting such hardware."

I would say "it comes with the territory". If MS is lowering the bar for some PCs not meeting the specs requirements for better security, it has to come with some caveats. :wink:
 

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    ASUSTek COMPUTER INC.
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    32GB
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I think - per MS press releases "they had discussions with AMD and Zen 1 was considered to be unsafe" (para-phrasing) - meaning AMD told them to stuff off with their stupid proviso's - AMD CPU/chipsets has always been secure.

My issue from the get-go was why does MS decide how I use my PC? If I don't want TPM that's my choice, surely.
Yeah, something like that.
What I don't like about this, there's nowhere they say clearly why Zen1 failed the specs.
But from what I found, it boils down to one of the following missing:
virtualization-based security (VBS), hypervisor-protected code integrity (HVCI), or +99.8% crash free experience...
 

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    i3 8109U
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    Intel
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    16GB DDR4 @2400
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    Intel Iris Plus Graphics 655
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    Intel / Realtek HD Audio
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    LG-32ML600M
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    1920x1080
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    Intel SSD 250GB + Samsung QVO SSD 1TB
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    Adapter
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    The usual NUC airflow
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    Logitech Orion G610
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    SteelSeries Rival 100 Red
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    Good enough
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    Chromium, Edge, Firefox
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    Windows Defender
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    TOSHIBA
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    NVIDIA Quadro K2100M
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    Realtek HD Audio
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Yeah, something like that.
What I don't like about this, there's nowhere they say clearly why Zen1 failed the specs.
But from what I found, it boils down to one of the following missing:
virtualization-based security (VBS), hypervisor-protected code integrity (HVCI), or +99.8% crash free experience...
No they didn't say and I doubt they will.
 

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    Windows 11 Home(Beta) - 23H2 - 22635.3495
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    Banana Junior 5600- G Series
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    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
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    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
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    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
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    Viotek 32", 28" ASUS VP28U
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    Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
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    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
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    Zalman i3 NEO
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    ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
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    Corsair
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No they didn't say and I doubt they will.
Well since cpu is older than 2018, the answer floats there somewhere... :unsure:
 

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    Intel Iris Plus Graphics 655
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    LG-32ML600M
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    Intel SSD 250GB + Samsung QVO SSD 1TB
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    The usual NUC airflow
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    Logitech Orion G610
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    SteelSeries Rival 100 Red
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    Good enough
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    Chromium, Edge, Firefox
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    Windows Defender
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    NVIDIA Quadro K2100M
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    Realtek HD Audio
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No they didn't say and I doubt they will.
Could be influence from other chip manufacturers who would like nothing better than ‘rain on the success’ of AMD
 

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    windows 10 & 11
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    Asus Prime x370 Pro
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    Banana Junior 5600- G Series
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    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
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    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
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    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
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Could be influence from other chip manufacturers
Who knows...
My hunch is a reliability thing, less than 99.8%.
All other specs should pass. Zen 1 and Zen 2 have similar instructions as seen on CPU-Z.

A comparison between 1800x and 2700x shows the first one to allow higher max temps 95°C (a bit high!) while the second one has 85°C... in the long run high temp can kill it. I have good cooling, for instance, it won't go above 65°C on stock speed.
Aside from that, the older release may have some glitchy instruction somewhere. I'm no expert. Some say on reddit that the random number generator doesn't work well. No official notes.
 
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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Intel NUC
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    i3 8109U
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    Intel
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    16GB DDR4 @2400
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    Intel Iris Plus Graphics 655
    Sound Card
    Intel / Realtek HD Audio
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    LG-32ML600M
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    1920x1080
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    Intel SSD 250GB + Samsung QVO SSD 1TB
    PSU
    Adapter
    Cooling
    The usual NUC airflow
    Keyboard
    Logitech Orion G610
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Rival 100 Red
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    Good enough
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    Chromium, Edge, Firefox
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    Windows Defender
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    TOSHIBA
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    Intel i7 4800MQ
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    TOSHIBA
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    32GB DDR3 @1600
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    NVIDIA Quadro K2100M
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    Realtek HD Audio
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    Built-in
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080

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    Windows 11 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
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    Intel NUC
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    i3 8109U
    Motherboard
    Intel
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    16GB DDR4 @2400
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus Graphics 655
    Sound Card
    Intel / Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG-32ML600M
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel SSD 250GB + Samsung QVO SSD 1TB
    PSU
    Adapter
    Cooling
    The usual NUC airflow
    Keyboard
    Logitech Orion G610
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Rival 100 Red
    Internet Speed
    Good enough
    Browser
    Chromium, Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    CentOS 9 Stream / Alma / Rocky / Fedora
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    TOSHIBA
    CPU
    Intel i7 4800MQ
    Motherboard
    TOSHIBA
    Memory
    32GB DDR3 @1600
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K2100M
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
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    Built-in
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    1920x1080
How is it forcing people to buy a new computer? Did I miss the part where MS said that we have to upgrade to Windows 11 because Windows 10 is going to stop running in the very near future? Even after the end of support for Windows 10 the computers running Windows 10 will still work. The average person does NOT have to upgrade to Windows 11. I own a 2017 Ram pickup. By that logic I should have traded it in on a 2018 then a 2019 and so on. Ram is making me buy a new truck just as much as MS making us buy a new computer.
What I'm wondering though is that once Windows 11 is released, will Windows`10 be relegated to security patches only or will it still be offered new features and enhancements just like Windows 11? I doubt Microsoft will update and develop two operating systems at the same time, but I could be wrong.
 

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    Windows 11 (beta)
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    PC/Desktop
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    Self-Built
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    i9-9900KF
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    Asus ROG STRIX Z390-E Gaming
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    G.Skill DDR4-2132 32GB XMP 2.0
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    Asus Turbo GeForce RTX 2080 Ti
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    Creative Soundblaster G6
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    Dell P2715Q
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    3840x2160
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    Samsung 970 Evo 1TB x 2
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    EVGA 750
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    Fractal 5
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    Fractal Celsius S24
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    Corsair K55
    Mouse
    Razer
    Internet Speed
    300
    Browser
    Edge, Chrome and Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
10 has a major update coming around the time 11 comes out and from then on it's anyone's guess what MS will do. I still think they may be fixing bugs in 10 and making necessary security patches. Code patches in 10 can be easily applied to 11.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Home(Beta) - 23H2 - 22635.3495
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Banana Junior 5600- G Series
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
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    Viotek 32", 28" ASUS VP28U
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
    PSU
    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
    Case
    Zalman i3 NEO
    Cooling
    ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
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    Corsair
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    Amazon Generic with Cord
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    Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
    Browser
    Firefox and Edge
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    MS - Defender
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    Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1
What I'm wondering though is that once Windows 11 is released, will Windows`10 be relegated to security patches only or will it still be offered new features and enhancements just like Windows 11? I doubt Microsoft will update and develop two operating systems at the same time, but I could be wrong.
If Windows 10 was 'relegated' to security patches and bug fixes until 2025 I would be well content. I do not need or want useless new 'features', change for the sake of change or 'fashion', which is what it generally amounts to.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro build 22000.65
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion PC 570-p026
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 7400 @ 3 GHz
    Motherboard
    HP Model 82F2 (U3E1)
    Memory
    12 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer V173
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    500MB Samsung Evo+ SSD
    1TB Western Digital WDC WD10EZEX-60WN4A0 (SATA) 7200 RPM
    Internet Speed
    300/300 Mbs fiber
10 has a major update coming around the time 11 comes out and from then on it's anyone's guess what MS will do. I still think they may be fixing bugs in 10 and making necessary security patches. Code patches in 10 can be easily applied to 11.
At least 10 is getting an update. Whether it's actually major is open to debate. 19044 is still getting CUs that are labeled for 19041, which tells me that there hasn't been a significant Windows non-security update since 20H1 was released. That's in spite of Microsoft promises for a big 21H2 since 21H1 improvement plans were supposedly delayed due to COVID. But I guess 11 stole that thunder, for whatever awe inspiring advancements it may or may not have.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win10 Pro x64 & 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-11700
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Strix Z590 Gaming
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200MHz 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce RTX 3050
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 32UN650 32" 4k
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160 @ 60Hz (175% scaling)
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe 250GB; WD Gold (WD1005FBYZ) 1TB; WD Black (WD1003FZEX) 1TB
    PSU
    Corsair RM850x
    Case
    Antec P100
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO V2 with Noctua NF-P12 Redux & 120mm Case Fan x3
    Keyboard
    Logitech K740
    Mouse
    Logitech M310
    Internet Speed
    372 Mb down/12Mb up
    Browser
    Firefox & Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender & Free MBAM
    Other Info
    Main PC
At least 10 is getting an update. Whether it's actually major is open to debate. 19044 is still getting CUs that are labeled for 19041, which tells me that there hasn't been a significant Windows non-security update since 20H1 was released. That's in spite of Microsoft promises for a big 21H2 since 21H1 improvement plans were supposedly delayed due to COVID. But I guess 11 stole that thunder, for whatever awe inspiring advancements it may or may not have.

I guess I'm not sure what kind of great leaps you guys are expecting from Win10 at this point. Why can't we just relax, polish up what we've got, squash some lingering bugs, etc.? It's an OS, not some computer game to keep you amused with constant change and excitement. I do NOT want my OS to be exciting. I want it to be predictable, reliable, and just work.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro build 22000.65
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion PC 570-p026
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 7400 @ 3 GHz
    Motherboard
    HP Model 82F2 (U3E1)
    Memory
    12 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer V173
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    500MB Samsung Evo+ SSD
    1TB Western Digital WDC WD10EZEX-60WN4A0 (SATA) 7200 RPM
    Internet Speed
    300/300 Mbs fiber

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