WATCH OUT FOR RAM PRICES!


IMHI, B die is still on the very good side. Getting A die is more luck than anything. It was sort of like the luck when Intel sent many computer builders the bad CPU's 2 years ago, and told us to pound sand. You either got one or you didn't.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win11i9-1390064 GBNvidia RTX 5070 TI OC
OS
Win11
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Asus Home built
CPU
i9-13900
Motherboard
ASUS Strix Z790-H
Memory
64 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia RTX 5070 TI OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Sony 55"
Hard Drives
SSD
PSU
850 watt EVGA
Case
Cooler Master Haf 932
Cooling
CoolerMaster
Keyboard
RedDragon
Mouse
CoolerMaster
Internet Speed
300/300
Antivirus
Defender
Other Info
VR, Virtual Reality

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, ...Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
OS
WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY, ASUS, and DELL
CPU
Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)
Motherboard
ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1 and ASUS X299 SAGE
Memory
128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
Sound Card
Crystal Sound (onboard)
Monitor(s) Displays
single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
Screen Resolution
4K and something equally attrocious. I'll be working on this.
Hard Drives
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

RAID arrays included:

LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
PSU
SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
Case
ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
Cooling
Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers.
Keyboard
all kinds.
Mouse
all kinds
Internet Speed
360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
Browser
FIREFOX
Antivirus
KASPERSKY (no apologies)
Other Info
Gave Dell touch screen with Windows 11 to daughter and got me an OTVOC. Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 ProIntel Core i9 12900KFCorsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200MhzASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
OS
Windows 11 Pro
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Custom Build
CPU
Intel Core i9 12900KF
Motherboard
ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Hero
Memory
Corsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
Sound Card
OnBoard
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer Predator XB323UGP 32" QHD G-SYNC-C 144Hz 1MS IPS LED
Screen Resolution
2560 x 1440
Hard Drives
1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 250GB M.2 NVMe
1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 500GB M.2 NVMe
2x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 2TB M.2 NVMe
PSU
Corsair AX1200i 1200W 80PLUS Titanium Modular
Case
Corsair 4000D Black Case w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12A Chromax Black CPU Cooler, 4x Noctua 120mm Fans
Keyboard
Logitech MK545
Mouse
Logitech MX Master 3
Internet Speed
Fixed Wireless 150mbps/75mbps
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
Kaspersky
Other Info
Thrustmaster TS-PC RACER
Fanatec CSL Elite Pedals with the Load Cell Kit
Yamaha Amp with Bose Speakers

PC Makers Are Fighting for Memory Capacity as Reports Warn That Postponing Product Launches Might Be the Only Option Left​

Which isn't exactly a great option, in fact it's a lousy option.

But the harsh, bitter reality is that the DRAM tail is wagging the dog. And the PC makers are up s--- creek without a paddle in a very leaky boat in a big rainstorm.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 2H25AMD 9900X64 GBAMD 9070 XT
OS
Windows 11 2H25
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY
CPU
AMD 9900X
Motherboard
MSI X870E Carbon
Memory
64 GB
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 9070 XT
Sound Card
built-in
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 24"
Hard Drives
Sabrent 1 TB NVMe, 4 x SSD (need to check models), 4 x 3.5" HDD, 8-16 TB, all WD
PSU
Seasonic 850
Case
Fractal Design North XL (which I likw)
Cooling
Corsair AIO for CPU, fans for case
Keyboard
Das Keyboard 4
Mouse
Corsair M65 (white)
Internet Speed
1 TB download
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
Bitdefender
Other Info
Also have Lenovo T14S laptop (me) and Lenovo Slim 71 (wife)
Older PCs are going to increase in value. Most people won't care about having a "legit" Windows 11 OS. They'll be doing Rufus and X-Lite. Others, done with the nonsense will just use Linux because Linux installs easily on older PCs. The people this will hurt the most on the domestic end will be gamers. I suspect the "solution" will be compute via AI and your processing speed will be dependant on your fiber so you will need to stay online for that. Seems like PCs are heading toward more of a glorified word processing status with all the real work being done out on the "Cloud". Meh, it was fun while it lasted.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, ...Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
OS
WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY, ASUS, and DELL
CPU
Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)
Motherboard
ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1 and ASUS X299 SAGE
Memory
128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
Sound Card
Crystal Sound (onboard)
Monitor(s) Displays
single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
Screen Resolution
4K and something equally attrocious. I'll be working on this.
Hard Drives
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

RAID arrays included:

LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
PSU
SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
Case
ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
Cooling
Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers.
Keyboard
all kinds.
Mouse
all kinds
Internet Speed
360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
Browser
FIREFOX
Antivirus
KASPERSKY (no apologies)
Other Info
Gave Dell touch screen with Windows 11 to daughter and got me an OTVOC. Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
Older PCs are going to increase in value. Most people
... who are members of this forum. Corporate users, they will probably upgrade anyway to get PCs that are AI capable. Normie home users, they will probably stick with Windows 10. At least, that's how I see it.
Others, done with the nonsense will just use Linux because Linux installs easily on older PCs.
Probably not the normies.
The people this will hurt the most on the domestic end will be gamers.
They will probably lower expectations for performance from newer games. Or maybe spend "some" money for a faster GPU.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 2H25AMD 9900X64 GBAMD 9070 XT
OS
Windows 11 2H25
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY
CPU
AMD 9900X
Motherboard
MSI X870E Carbon
Memory
64 GB
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 9070 XT
Sound Card
built-in
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 24"
Hard Drives
Sabrent 1 TB NVMe, 4 x SSD (need to check models), 4 x 3.5" HDD, 8-16 TB, all WD
PSU
Seasonic 850
Case
Fractal Design North XL (which I likw)
Cooling
Corsair AIO for CPU, fans for case
Keyboard
Das Keyboard 4
Mouse
Corsair M65 (white)
Internet Speed
1 TB download
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
Bitdefender
Other Info
Also have Lenovo T14S laptop (me) and Lenovo Slim 71 (wife)
The game "Far Cry 2" works better on old computers than on new ones (and this game is better than Far Cry 6).
 
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My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Microsoft Windows 11 HomeIntel Core i5-13490F2 x 16 Patriot Memory (PDP Systems) PSD516G56...GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 WINDFORCE OC 12G (G...
OS
Microsoft Windows 11 Home
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
MSI MS-7D98
CPU
Intel Core i5-13490F
Motherboard
MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI
Memory
2 x 16 Patriot Memory (PDP Systems) PSD516G560081 6400MT (32-37-37-74); 1.35V)
Graphics Card(s)
GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 WINDFORCE OC 12G (GV-N4070WF3OC-12GD)
Sound Card
Bluetooth Аудио
Monitor(s) Displays
INNOCN 15K1F
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
WD_BLACK SN770 250GB
KINGSTON SNV2S1000G (ELFK0S.6)
PSU
Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W
Case
CG560 - DeepCool
Cooling
ID-COOLING SE-224-XTS / 2 x 140Mm Fan - rear and top; 3 x 120Mm - front
Keyboard
Corsair K70 RGB TKL
Mouse
Corsair KATAR PRO XT
Internet Speed
100 Mbps
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
Microsoft Defender Antivirus
Other Info
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/66553205
... who are members of this forum. Corporate users, they will probably upgrade anyway to get PCs that are AI capable. Normie home users, they will probably stick with Windows 10. At least, that's how I see it.

Probably not the normies.

They will probably lower expectations for performance from newer games. Or maybe spend "some" money for a faster GPU.
I'm not a corporate user and I've been a member on Win7, 8, 9, 10, and now this forum. I'm a PC enthusiast/builder/repair guy. Admittedly, I'm not a normie and never really have been. That said I'm a Dad with children ranging from the ages of 14 through to 39 so I know what a lot of younger people are doing. You are correct regarding Windows 10. Even my wife is still using it (despite me getting Win 11 for her) and once you get rid of the garbage that constitutes half the OS Win 10 is not a half bad operating system. I still prefer Win 7 but that's a personal preference.

Older PCs have Win 10 on them and people are hanging onto them more and more because they just can't afford the outrageous prices so they keep them because they still work. Rufus has never been so popular thanks to Windows 11 and a lot of normies know someone who can do the Rufus upgrade or, they will buy an older refurbished model that has a modded Win 11 OS on it. Others (I'll say it again) done with the nonsense will just use Linux.

GPU prices are about to go thru the roof. I'm tempted to say "astronomically high" but they already are thanks to bit coin. This is why I stated that gamers are going to hurt the most from this outrageous hike in silicon prices. All of it will be affected: GPUs, CPUs, NVMe, SSDs, and of course, RAM. I'm almost glad I'm old now I have what I need to carry me through. Alas, I'm seeing a dark future ahead for humanity. Getting off the grid or at least being in a position to do so (Like Dave Plumber) might be a worthwhile venture for young, healthy people.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, ...Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
OS
WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY, ASUS, and DELL
CPU
Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)
Motherboard
ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1 and ASUS X299 SAGE
Memory
128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
Sound Card
Crystal Sound (onboard)
Monitor(s) Displays
single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
Screen Resolution
4K and something equally attrocious. I'll be working on this.
Hard Drives
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

RAID arrays included:

LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
PSU
SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
Case
ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
Cooling
Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers.
Keyboard
all kinds.
Mouse
all kinds
Internet Speed
360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
Browser
FIREFOX
Antivirus
KASPERSKY (no apologies)
Other Info
Gave Dell touch screen with Windows 11 to daughter and got me an OTVOC. Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
I hate computers and would rather go to study at the Faculty of Biology and grow flowers.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Microsoft Windows 11 HomeIntel Core i5-13490F2 x 16 Patriot Memory (PDP Systems) PSD516G56...GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 WINDFORCE OC 12G (G...
OS
Microsoft Windows 11 Home
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
MSI MS-7D98
CPU
Intel Core i5-13490F
Motherboard
MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI
Memory
2 x 16 Patriot Memory (PDP Systems) PSD516G560081 6400MT (32-37-37-74); 1.35V)
Graphics Card(s)
GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 WINDFORCE OC 12G (GV-N4070WF3OC-12GD)
Sound Card
Bluetooth Аудио
Monitor(s) Displays
INNOCN 15K1F
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
WD_BLACK SN770 250GB
KINGSTON SNV2S1000G (ELFK0S.6)
PSU
Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W
Case
CG560 - DeepCool
Cooling
ID-COOLING SE-224-XTS / 2 x 140Mm Fan - rear and top; 3 x 120Mm - front
Keyboard
Corsair K70 RGB TKL
Mouse
Corsair KATAR PRO XT
Internet Speed
100 Mbps
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
Microsoft Defender Antivirus
Other Info
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/66553205
I hate computers and would rather go to study at the Faculty of Biology and grow flowers.
Learn to grow food naturally and independently. Become a prepper and head for the hills.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, ...Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
OS
WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY, ASUS, and DELL
CPU
Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)
Motherboard
ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1 and ASUS X299 SAGE
Memory
128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
Sound Card
Crystal Sound (onboard)
Monitor(s) Displays
single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
Screen Resolution
4K and something equally attrocious. I'll be working on this.
Hard Drives
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

RAID arrays included:

LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
PSU
SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
Case
ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
Cooling
Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers.
Keyboard
all kinds.
Mouse
all kinds
Internet Speed
360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
Browser
FIREFOX
Antivirus
KASPERSKY (no apologies)
Other Info
Gave Dell touch screen with Windows 11 to daughter and got me an OTVOC. Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
Is the food you buy in the store made by AI?
You shouldn't have taken all this personally.
There is nothing inherently wrong with computers as a hobby or as a profession.
I've been doing this all my life.
They are simply given too much importance.
If you worked in this industry (I don’t mean a profession like a system administrator), you should know that this is a real garbage dump.
Maybe when I started everything was a little different, but the prerequisites for today’s madness were already there.
 
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My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Microsoft Windows 11 HomeIntel Core i5-13490F2 x 16 Patriot Memory (PDP Systems) PSD516G56...GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 WINDFORCE OC 12G (G...
OS
Microsoft Windows 11 Home
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
MSI MS-7D98
CPU
Intel Core i5-13490F
Motherboard
MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI
Memory
2 x 16 Patriot Memory (PDP Systems) PSD516G560081 6400MT (32-37-37-74); 1.35V)
Graphics Card(s)
GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 WINDFORCE OC 12G (GV-N4070WF3OC-12GD)
Sound Card
Bluetooth Аудио
Monitor(s) Displays
INNOCN 15K1F
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
WD_BLACK SN770 250GB
KINGSTON SNV2S1000G (ELFK0S.6)
PSU
Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W
Case
CG560 - DeepCool
Cooling
ID-COOLING SE-224-XTS / 2 x 140Mm Fan - rear and top; 3 x 120Mm - front
Keyboard
Corsair K70 RGB TKL
Mouse
Corsair KATAR PRO XT
Internet Speed
100 Mbps
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
Microsoft Defender Antivirus
Other Info
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/66553205
A warning. I'm gonna get on my soapbox here so pass unless you want an old woman's opinion on this.

I agree that the ones most affected will be gamers who want the latest, greatest, fastest, biggest, and now most expensive ram packages and GPU cards out there. They better be prepared to pay more to play. What's going to affect normies the most is storage prices; at least normies like me whose income is limited who will have to make do with what we got.

Some smaller OEMs might well shut their doors sooner than later and the larger OEMs like Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc will be forced to make major changes in the way they operate for the consumer market just to be able to sell home devices. But in this game, companies like those are not big players anymore. They're small fish and can easily become causalities, too.

Regulars here will know this, but others may not. People think there are many computer memory companies (DRAM and flash) worldwide, but there's really only three primary semiconductor companies, often referred to as the "Big Three"; Samsung and Hynix are in South Korea, Micron in the US.
Other companies produce memory modules or controllers, but these three are the core manufacturers of the actual memory chips themselves. Micron is jumping ship to AI, so it's probably a good bet the other two will as well and it's all to whomever will pay the most and that's not the consumer. Big money is greasing these wheels.

Brands, such as Corsair, G.Skill, Kingston, ADATA, and PNY, manufacture the complete memory modules (e.g., RAM sticks for a PC) but purchase the actual integrated memory circuits (ICs or chips) from one of the big three. Some of these may also become casualities before it's all over.

I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories, but I'm on a roll here and do have my own theory about these AI data centers. AI will eventually rule the world as we know it. It's going to change everything. It's going to control everything. Building these data centers around the world is all about power.....world dominating power, not competition. No one will convince me that it's just MS, Google, Amazon, Musk, et al building these centers independently of each other.

It makes me wonder exactly who is in cahoots with whom to do all this greasing and if anyone, anywhere is monitoring what the final outcome could be.
Probably not because pockets will be greased every step of the way with lots & lots of money. We already know in some places, there is water and power shortages for the public because it's all going to these data centers. For God's sake, they're resurrecting 3 Mile Island nuclear power plant strictly for Microsoft to get 100% of its production. That ought to say something.
To me that's scary, not progress. Look at the condition of other parts of the world that lacks infrastructure.
Many of us here won't live to see it all come together so I guess we don't have to worry about it, but just stop and think about its possible implications for future generations.

Ok, that's my last rant of 2025. Happy New Year, boys and girls.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 26200.9168i9-10900 10 core 20 threads32 gbnone-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 26200.9168
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2x1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+2tb Kingston m2.nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    #1 Edge #2 Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26200.9168AMD Ryzen 7 6800U32 gbintegrated
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26200.9168
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink Mini PC SER5
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 6800U
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics card(s)
    integrated
    Sound Card
    integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Crucial nvme
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    still too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
  • System 3 is non compliant Dell 9020 i7-4770/24gb ram Win11 PRO 26200.9168
Preach it, sister! Not a single word of your missive was off base. What Micron has done is a complete and utter betrayal when one considers all the recent tax incentives they received just to expand manufacturing. Americans literally paid them to get snubbed. Steve Miller's, Take the Money and Run comes to mind. Micron has run to the arms of Big Daddy AI at the expense of the tax payers and people are oblivious to what just happened. Talk about a bait and switch!

Although, MS, GOOGLE, Amazon, Musk etc. all have big stakes in the game (let's not forget NVIDIA) there's a whole lot more to the picture than meets the eye. In the 60's and 70's we had the space wars. Well, now it's the silicon wars. China gave U.S, (and the rest) quite a scare with Deep Seek and now the race is on in earnest. The rationale playing out here is the same as it ever was: "If we don't do it then the other guy will." And they're right. So where does that leave us?

AI is going to run, operate, conduct, permeate every iota of our lives from the cradle to the grave. Instead of the compute working for us we all gonna be workin' for the compute. I'm sure the trans-humanists think this is wonderful and awesome thing. Sci Fi just got real, folks. We are indeed witnessing the advent of our dystopia. I'm sure that sounds off the wall. I'm certain it strikes many readers here as alarmist. Dawg gone, I left my aluminum foil hat in the kitchen drawer! You know I can't possibly hope to be more wrong about this but I know I'm not.

Look at the thousands of jobs vanishing into thin air. Look at how the stock market is dominated via high speed tech. Look at how so many places in Europe won't even honour physical money anymore. Check out how people are instantly cut off of their livelihoods i.e. Canada and China at the flick of a switch. This stuff is real. I can barely make online purchases anymore simply because I don't own a cell phone! Whatever happened to options?? No, I don't like where this is heading. No, not one bit.
 

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WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, ...Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
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WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY, ASUS, and DELL
CPU
Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)
Motherboard
ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1 and ASUS X299 SAGE
Memory
128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
Sound Card
Crystal Sound (onboard)
Monitor(s) Displays
single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
Screen Resolution
4K and something equally attrocious. I'll be working on this.
Hard Drives
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

RAID arrays included:

LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
PSU
SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
Case
ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
Cooling
Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers.
Keyboard
all kinds.
Mouse
all kinds
Internet Speed
360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
Browser
FIREFOX
Antivirus
KASPERSKY (no apologies)
Other Info
Gave Dell touch screen with Windows 11 to daughter and got me an OTVOC. Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
At 74 this old dude is doing fine for all my needs, of just surfing the web, with an old 4790k and 32 gig of ddr 3 on the 1 ghz internet speed.
 

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Windows XP (Stable, iconic) 7/8.1/10/ Tiny11 ...Intel i7 4790K32GB DDR3 1600 MHzATI Radeon HD 7770 2GB GDDR5
OS
Windows XP (Stable, iconic) 7/8.1/10/ Tiny11 25H2
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Alienware PC
CPU
Intel i7 4790K
Motherboard
ASROCK Z97 EXTREME4
Memory
32GB DDR3 1600 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 7770 2GB GDDR5
Sound Card
Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
SAMSUNG UE57 Series 28-Inch 4K UHD
Hard Drives
SAMSUNG 860 EVO 250 gigabyte SSD
PSU
EVGA 850 watt
Case
Alienware Area 51 Black Tower Case
Keyboard
HyperX - Alloy Elite 2 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard.
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless
Internet Speed
1.2 GHz
Browser
Chrome..Edge..Firefox
At 74 this old dude is doing fine for all my needs, of just surfing the web, with an old 4790k and 32 gig of ddr 3 on the 1 ghz internet speed.
I'm currently rebuilding my beloved's Sabertooth Z87. It's running a 4770K and 32GB of G.Skill DDR3 RAM. We're doing 1GHz internet here too and I just pulled the trigger on fiber so sometime next year I'll be enjoying that speed on the up and the down. She's very happy with it but it needed a good cleaning and some fans replaced. I got carried away a little and decided to give her a new PSU and some storage upgrades. (I also decided to mod the case a little.) Waiting for the PSU to come in before I complete the rebuild. I literally have hundreds of sticks of DDR3 RAM on hand from doing upgrades on other people's PCs, garage sales, and cannibalizing old boxes. I'm good here. We don't need the latest blazing fast speeds for our PCs to function adequately.
 

My Computer My Computer

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WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, ...Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
OS
WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY, ASUS, and DELL
CPU
Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)
Motherboard
ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1 and ASUS X299 SAGE
Memory
128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
Sound Card
Crystal Sound (onboard)
Monitor(s) Displays
single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
Screen Resolution
4K and something equally attrocious. I'll be working on this.
Hard Drives
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

RAID arrays included:

LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
PSU
SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
Case
ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
Cooling
Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers.
Keyboard
all kinds.
Mouse
all kinds
Internet Speed
360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
Browser
FIREFOX
Antivirus
KASPERSKY (no apologies)
Other Info
Gave Dell touch screen with Windows 11 to daughter and got me an OTVOC. Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
I hate computers and would rather go to study at the Faculty of Biology and grow flowers.
So why are you a member of this forum??
 

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Windows 11 2H25AMD 9900X64 GBAMD 9070 XT
OS
Windows 11 2H25
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY
CPU
AMD 9900X
Motherboard
MSI X870E Carbon
Memory
64 GB
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 9070 XT
Sound Card
built-in
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 24"
Hard Drives
Sabrent 1 TB NVMe, 4 x SSD (need to check models), 4 x 3.5" HDD, 8-16 TB, all WD
PSU
Seasonic 850
Case
Fractal Design North XL (which I likw)
Cooling
Corsair AIO for CPU, fans for case
Keyboard
Das Keyboard 4
Mouse
Corsair M65 (white)
Internet Speed
1 TB download
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
Bitdefender
Other Info
Also have Lenovo T14S laptop (me) and Lenovo Slim 71 (wife)
So why are you a member of this forum??
Lol!
Secretly, we all hate computers and want to beat them into submission! :cool:
 

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    Windows 11 Pro
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
  • ASUS VivoBook 'Lite' ~ Windows 11 Home
A warning. I'm gonna get on my soapbox here so pass unless you want an old woman's opinion on this.

I agree that the ones most affected will be gamers who want the latest, greatest, fastest, biggest, and now most expensive ram packages and GPU cards out there. They better be prepared to pay more to play. What's going to affect normies the most is storage prices; at least normies like me whose income is limited who will have to make do with what we got.

Some smaller OEMs might well shut their doors sooner than later and the larger OEMs like Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc will be forced to make major changes in the way they operate for the consumer market just to be able to sell home devices. But in this game, companies like those are not big players anymore. They're small fish and can easily become causalities, too.

Regulars here will know this, but others may not. People think there are many computer memory companies (DRAM and flash) worldwide, but there's really only three primary semiconductor companies, often referred to as the "Big Three"; Samsung and Hynix are in South Korea, Micron in the US.
Other companies produce memory modules or controllers, but these three are the core manufacturers of the actual memory chips themselves. Micron is jumping ship to AI, so it's probably a good bet the other two will as well and it's all to whomever will pay the most and that's not the consumer. Big money is greasing these wheels.

Brands, such as Corsair, G.Skill, Kingston, ADATA, and PNY, manufacture the complete memory modules (e.g., RAM sticks for a PC) but purchase the actual integrated memory circuits (ICs or chips) from one of the big three. Some of these may also become casualities before it's all over.

I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories, but I'm on a roll here and do have my own theory about these AI data centers. AI will eventually rule the world as we know it. It's going to change everything. It's going to control everything. Building these data centers around the world is all about power.....world dominating power, not competition. No one will convince me that it's just MS, Google, Amazon, Musk, et al building these centers independently of each other.

It makes me wonder exactly who is in cahoots with whom to do all this greasing and if anyone, anywhere is monitoring what the final outcome could be.
Probably not because pockets will be greased every step of the way with lots & lots of money. We already know in some places, there is water and power shortages for the public because it's all going to these data centers. For God's sake, they're resurrecting 3 Mile Island nuclear power plant strictly for Microsoft to get 100% of its production. That ought to say something.
To me that's scary, not progress. Look at the condition of other parts of the world that lacks infrastructure.
Many of us here won't live to see it all come together so I guess we don't have to worry about it, but just stop and think about its possible implications for future generations.

Ok, that's my last rant of 2025. Happy New Year, boys and girls.
Wow, what a statement. While I don't agree with everything you say, I have to admire your perceptiveness about many issues, particularly about the future of many vendors. Let me build on your last major point. Sooner or later the hyperscaler companies and major partners like NVidia, construction companies, and perhaps electric utilities, will form an industry or trade association, in the US and probably in the EU. This association will hand out money to political candidates. For regulatory agencies, they will strive for "regulatory capture." Like former US Senate Majority Leader once supposedly said during the debate for health care insurance, "Nobody ever lobbied me for the public interest."

Sic transit gloria mundi.
 

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Windows 11 2H25AMD 9900X64 GBAMD 9070 XT
OS
Windows 11 2H25
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY
CPU
AMD 9900X
Motherboard
MSI X870E Carbon
Memory
64 GB
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 9070 XT
Sound Card
built-in
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 24"
Hard Drives
Sabrent 1 TB NVMe, 4 x SSD (need to check models), 4 x 3.5" HDD, 8-16 TB, all WD
PSU
Seasonic 850
Case
Fractal Design North XL (which I likw)
Cooling
Corsair AIO for CPU, fans for case
Keyboard
Das Keyboard 4
Mouse
Corsair M65 (white)
Internet Speed
1 TB download
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
Bitdefender
Other Info
Also have Lenovo T14S laptop (me) and Lenovo Slim 71 (wife)
So why are you a member of this forum??

It’s like a smoking addiction; if you start smoking at an early age, it’s impossible to quit.
And learn Windows a little without straining too much.
---------------------------

Example.
There is a satellite constellation in Earth orbit.
It's completely computer-controlled, with no human intervention. Each satellite is also controlled by an onboard computer.
All of this is necessary for someone to profit from it.
Not even the state in general, but specific people who understand absolutely nothing about computer technology.
It's not surprising with an IQ like Einstein or Epstein.
Do you want to become one of those satellites?
But it's okay, Windows isn't used there, so the example is unsuccessful.
 
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Microsoft Windows 11 HomeIntel Core i5-13490F2 x 16 Patriot Memory (PDP Systems) PSD516G56...GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 WINDFORCE OC 12G (G...
OS
Microsoft Windows 11 Home
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
MSI MS-7D98
CPU
Intel Core i5-13490F
Motherboard
MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI
Memory
2 x 16 Patriot Memory (PDP Systems) PSD516G560081 6400MT (32-37-37-74); 1.35V)
Graphics Card(s)
GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 WINDFORCE OC 12G (GV-N4070WF3OC-12GD)
Sound Card
Bluetooth Аудио
Monitor(s) Displays
INNOCN 15K1F
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
WD_BLACK SN770 250GB
KINGSTON SNV2S1000G (ELFK0S.6)
PSU
Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W
Case
CG560 - DeepCool
Cooling
ID-COOLING SE-224-XTS / 2 x 140Mm Fan - rear and top; 3 x 120Mm - front
Keyboard
Corsair K70 RGB TKL
Mouse
Corsair KATAR PRO XT
Internet Speed
100 Mbps
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
Microsoft Defender Antivirus
Other Info
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/66553205
What's going to affect normies the most is storage prices; at least normies like me whose income is limited who will have to make do with what we got.

Have to keep a lookout for bargains. I just bought 2tb t500 and 2tb mx500 for what I consider reasonable. Need to be snapped up when you see them which is not necessarily when you need them.
 
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  • At a glance

    Win7,Win11i7-97002x16gb 3600mhz
    OS
    Win7,Win11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i7-9700
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x16gb 3600mhz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    benq gw2480
    PSU
    bequiet pure power 11 400CM
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • At a glance

    win7,win11i5-84002x8gb 3200
    Operating System
    win7,win11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i5-8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200
    PSU
    xfx pro 450
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