Solved What does Windows Defender lack, what can’t it do?


My concerns were mostly if when Defender was setup on a novices computer, where it may fail. Thanks for the responses. 🙏
 

My Computers

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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.3374
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    PC/Desktop
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    Sin-built
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    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
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    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
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    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
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    Onboard
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    4 x LG 23MP75 1 x 24" LG M38H 1 x 32" LF6300 TV Monitor 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
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    All over the place
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    2 x WD something Something 8TB HDD's / 2 x WD something Something 4TB HDD's / 1 x EVO 1TB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB SSD's / 1 x EVO 250 GB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB (External Hub) / 1 x EVO 1TB (Portable Backup Case)
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    Silverstone 1500
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    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
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    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
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    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
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    All sorts
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    Kaspersky Premium
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    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 22621.2215
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    Laptop
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    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Graphics processor is an Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
My concerns were mostly if when Defender was setup on a novices computer, where it may fail. Thanks for the responses. 🙏
Defenders is plug and play pretty much.

The main thing I turn off is smartscreen as it gets very annoying blocking just about any exe download until you confirm it is safe.

However I do not recommend turning it off for any user unless they understand the risks and take suitable protection e.g. regular image backups.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0
Defenders is plug and play pretty much.

The main thing I turn off is smartscreen as it gets very annoying blocking just about any exe download until you confirm it is safe.

However I do not recommend turning it off for any user unless they understand the risks and take suitable protection e.g. regular image backups.
I totally agree, thanks cereberus. I turn it off because it is annoying. And you’re right, I’d rather get a phone call once a day from this person asking me what to do or to confirm, than leave it off for them. 🙏
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.3374
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 1 x 24" LG M38H 1 x 32" LF6300 TV Monitor 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    2 x WD something Something 8TB HDD's / 2 x WD something Something 4TB HDD's / 1 x EVO 1TB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB SSD's / 1 x EVO 250 GB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB (External Hub) / 1 x EVO 1TB (Portable Backup Case)
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 22621.2215
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Graphics processor is an Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
Comparative tests are really 100% U/S. For starters they are usually done many days or even weeks in the past - and new nasties can appear at any time. WD is often updated 5 times in a week - and no 3rd party vendor will be able to test their products on new insider windows builds for a period after that too.

For domestic users WD is as good as it gets - most of those other 3rd party products are essentially solving a C20 problem when Windows was as leaky as a sieve. There's utterly no need for any of these for domestic users - certainly not for technological reasons.

If people feel paranoid and want extra security -- then that's fine if it gives you extra piece of mind but its not actually buying you anything on a technical level other than possible performance issues and potential problems with next windows update or release - especially if using insider versions.

Corporates, large LAN operators, web site operators etc have other issues - but for domestic users WD is fine,

Cheers
jimbo

It doesn't matter if one can be hit with older malware, and the tests include consumer markets.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
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    Custom Build
    CPU
    i5-13400F
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B-760M
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    internal
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC 27 gaming
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Kingston 2 TB M.2
    PSU
    Thermaltake 700W
    Case
    DarkFlash C285P
It doesn't matter if one can be hit with older malware, and the tests include consumer markets.
Not an answer -- since WD works -- and is updated regularly so what the magazine voted or suggested was the most effective in say July isn't valid in September for example.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
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    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
He could add Malwarebytes free as an on demand scan as well as defender. Turning off all the things in settings so it doesn’t keep nagging to upgrade or running in the background.

Defender is supposed to be pretty good. It’s possible it might miss something Norton would pick up - but then he could run Malwarebytes now and then to check and/or remove and quarantine anything that got through.

Depends if his usage is of a risky type as well.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
My concerns were mostly if when Defender was setup on a novices computer, where it may fail.
Defender is not user friendly, but sadly other free AVs require user's interaction to keep it activated after a year or so.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 3600 & No fTPM (07/19)
    Motherboard
    MSI B450 TOMAHAWK 7C02v1E & IFX TPM (07/19)
    Memory
    4x 8GB ADATA XPG GAMMIX D10 DDR4 3200MHz CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Radeon RX 580 ARMOR 8G OC @48FPS (08/19)
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Z (11/16)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" AOC G2460VQ6 (01/19)
    Screen Resolution
    1920×1080@75Hz & FreeSync (DisplayPort)
    Hard Drives
    ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro SSD 512GB (07/19)
    PSU
    Seasonic M12II-520 80 Plus Bronze (11/16)
    Case
    Lian Li PC-7NB & 3x Noctua NF-S12A FLX@700rpm (11/16)
    Cooling
    CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U12S@700rpm (07/19)
    Keyboard
    HP Wired Desktop 320K + Rabalux 76017 Parker (01/24)
    Mouse
    Logitech M330 Silent Plus (04/23)
    Internet Speed
    400/40 Mbps via RouterOS (05/21) & TCP Optimizer
    Browser
    Edge (No FB/Google) & Brave for YouTube & LibreWolf for FB
    Antivirus
    NoAV & Binisoft WFC & NextDNS
    Other Info
    Headphones: Sennheiser RS170 (09/10)
    Phone: Samsung Galaxy Xcover 7 (02/24)
I too use Windows Defender exclusively as my AV. I do have Privazer but thats more for privacy than AV. If I'm ever suspicious of something or how my machine is acting I use the Eset online scan. Its free and very comprehensive. It can be used once a month, totally free.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Win11
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 6800H
    Memory
    32GB DDR5 G Skill Ripjaws
    Graphics Card(s)
    Geforce RTX 3050
    Monitor(s) Displays
    144 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Micron 2400 512gb ssd
    Case
    Absolutely beautiful lol
    Mouse
    Logitech 305
    Browser
    Edge/Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Not an answer -- since WD works -- and is updated regularly so what the magazine voted or suggested was the most effective in say July isn't valid in September for example.

Cheers
jimbo

According to AV Comparatives, it still gets compromised with older malware, etc.

 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    i5-13400F
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B-760M
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    internal
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC 27 gaming
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Kingston 2 TB M.2
    PSU
    Thermaltake 700W
    Case
    DarkFlash C285P

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