What happened to my Start menu?


BlueShark

BlueShark

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Something really strange has happened to my Start menu overnight.

Seemingly out of nowhere it has added a bunch of pins to groups (I made the top ones myself though):

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And in the settings I can no longer set the Start layout:

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It used to look something like this:

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Thanks. That does change the layout, but not like it was previously. Has anything changed in Start with the previous updates? I am on LTSC so I shouldn't really get feature updates as far as I know.

Previously it looked somewhat like this:

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    Windows 11 24H2
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@BlueShark


Microsoft removed the old Start Menu. Even the tweaks can't bring it back.
You can personalize it a bit...

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BlueShark said:
That does change the layout, but not like it was previously. Has anything changed in Start with the previous updates? I am on LTSC so I shouldn't really get feature updates as far as I know.
Click to expand...
Pretty minor changes, why worry. LTSC is not absolutely no changes see the MS info on the subject.

Been like that for some months for the standard consumer version.
 

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When was this introduced? I am still on 24H2 and I am not aware that I ever updated to such a release.
 

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BlueShark said:
When was this introduced? I am still on 24H2 and I am not aware that I ever updated to such a release.
Click to expand...


The 'new' Start Menu was a phased rollout.
Some have had it for a while, some are just getting it.

MS broke the tweaks that would give us (non-Insiders), the old Start Menu.
 

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    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
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    Dell U3011 30"
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    2560 x 1600
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    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
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    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
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    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
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    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
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    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
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    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
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    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
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    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
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    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
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    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
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    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
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    300/300
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    Firefox 3.x ??
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    Symantec (Norton)
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    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 15 years?
At first, I was not too sure about the new Start Menu. But after a while now I have warmed up to it a little.


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    Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 265 1.8GHz to 5.3GHz (Arrow Lake)
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    Dell Inc. 02D3NT A00 (U3E1)
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    Dell Inspiron 15 7000 (7591) 2-in-1, DOB: 11/30/2019
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    From Dell: 512GB NVME Solid State Drive accelerated by 32GB Intel Optane Memory are the fastest as compared to NAND SSDs. Intel Optane H10 with SSD offers speedy storage and accelerates opening your programs.
neldog said:
At first, I was not too sure about the new Start Menu. But after a while now I have warmed up to it a little.


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Click to expand...
I've been using it since the first buggy versions appeared LOL. It's getting better especially now that they have introduced a size choice (Large or Small) in the insider builds which should be going public and supposedly a customizable category view is in the works.
 

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FrancoDT said:
I've been using it since the first buggy versions appeared LOL. It's getting better especially now that they have introduced a size choice (Large or Small) in the insider builds which should be going public and supposedly a customizable category view is in the works.
Click to expand...
You were the one who made me want to get the new Start Menu back when you first got yours. 🙂
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 26200.8457
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    PC/Desktop
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    Dell Tower Plus EBT2250, DOB: 06/15/2025
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 265 1.8GHz to 5.3GHz (Arrow Lake)
    Motherboard
    Dell Inc. 02D3NT A00 (U3E1)
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    SK Hynix 32GB DDR5 5600 Desktop RAM UDIMM Non-ECC PC5-5600B
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    Dell NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 4060 8GB GDDR6 & (iGPU) Integrated Intel® UHD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Chipset Realtek High-Definition Audio with Dolby Atmos
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell Ultra Sharp U2515H 25-Inch Screen LED-Lit
    Screen Resolution
    2560 X 1440
    Hard Drives
    Samsung (NVMe PM9C1a 1024GB) M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive (OS), with Samsung Piccolo (S4LY022) 6-Core 4 Channel Controller.

    Samsung T7 500GB SSD, USB-C External Drive
    PSU
    Dell 460W
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    Dell Tower Plus EBT 2250
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    Dell Wired Keyboard - KB216
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    Logitech M510
    Internet Speed
    Intel Killer E3100G 2.5 Gigabit Ethernet Controller
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Security
    Other Info
    The Samsung NVMe PM9C1a 1024GB SSD does not use a Phison NAND controller. Instead, it uses Samsung's in-house developed Piccolo (S4LY022) 6-Core 4 Channel Controller. The PM9C1a utilizes a controller built using Samsung's 5-nanometer process and seventh-generation V-NAND technology. 🤔
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    Laptop
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    Dell Inspiron 15 7000 (7591) 2-in-1, DOB: 11/30/2019
    CPU
    10th Generation Intel Core i7-10510U Processor (8MB Cache, up to 4.9 GHz) Comet Lake
    Motherboard
    Dell 0NNW5N
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    16GB DDR4 RAM
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    NVIDIA® GeForce® MX250 with 2GB GDDR5 graphics memory
    Sound Card
    Chipset Realtek ALC3254 🤔🤣
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    Dell 15.6-inch UHD Truelife Touch Narrow Border WVA Display with Active Pen support
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    Intel NVME 512GB SSD with 32GB Intel Optane Memory, M.2 80mm PCIe 3.0 RAID

    SanDisk 256GB Extreme microSDXC UHS-I Memory Card
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    Dell 4-Cell Battery, 68 Whr (Integrated), 90 Watt AC Adapter
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    Dell Inspiron 15 7000 2-in-1 (7591)
    Cooling
    Standard Dell Case Fan & Havit HV-F2056 USB Powered (3 Fans) Laptop Cooling Pad.
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    Dell
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    Logitech Wireless Mouse M650L
    Internet Speed
    Wireless/Wired connectivity (WiFi 6 - 802.11 ax)
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Security
    Other Info
    From Dell: 512GB NVME Solid State Drive accelerated by 32GB Intel Optane Memory are the fastest as compared to NAND SSDs. Intel Optane H10 with SSD offers speedy storage and accelerates opening your programs.
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