What happened to my Start menu?


BlueShark

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Something really strange has happened to my Start menu overnight.

Seemingly out of nowhere it has added a bunch of pins to groups (I made the top ones myself though):

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And in the settings I can no longer set the Start layout:

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It used to look something like this:

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Click on View: Category V and change it to Grid or List.
 

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Thanks. That does change the layout, but not like it was previously. Has anything changed in Start with the previous updates? I am on LTSC so I shouldn't really get feature updates as far as I know.

Previously it looked somewhat like this:

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@BlueShark


Microsoft removed the old Start Menu. Even the tweaks can't bring it back.
You can personalize it a bit...

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BlueShark said:
That does change the layout, but not like it was previously. Has anything changed in Start with the previous updates? I am on LTSC so I shouldn't really get feature updates as far as I know.
Click to expand...
Pretty minor changes, why worry. LTSC is not absolutely no changes see the MS info on the subject.

Been like that for some months for the standard consumer version.
 

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When was this introduced? I am still on 24H2 and I am not aware that I ever updated to such a release.
 

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BlueShark said:
When was this introduced? I am still on 24H2 and I am not aware that I ever updated to such a release.
Click to expand...


The 'new' Start Menu was a phased rollout.
Some have had it for a while, some are just getting it.

MS broke the tweaks that would give us (non-Insiders), the old Start Menu.
 

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At first, I was not too sure about the new Start Menu. But after a while now I have warmed up to it a little.


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neldog said:
At first, I was not too sure about the new Start Menu. But after a while now I have warmed up to it a little.


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I've been using it since the first buggy versions appeared LOL. It's getting better especially now that they have introduced a size choice (Large or Small) in the insider builds which should be going public and supposedly a customizable category view is in the works.
 

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FrancoDT said:
I've been using it since the first buggy versions appeared LOL. It's getting better especially now that they have introduced a size choice (Large or Small) in the insider builds which should be going public and supposedly a customizable category view is in the works.
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You were the one who made me want to get the new Start Menu back when you first got yours. 🙂
 

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BlueShark said:
I am on LTSC so I shouldn't really get feature updates as far as I know.
Click to expand...
I'm not sure this change was ever defined as a "feature update"
BlueShark said:
When was this introduced?
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It was a gradual (phased) introduction of an evolutionary cosmetic change to Windows 11 (irrespective of versions and/or editions). Plenty of posts in this forum from users ... at one time it seemed like every time someone noticed it, a new thread was established, as if they were the first user to report it.
 

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BlueShark said:
Thanks. That does change the layout, but not like it was previously. Has anything changed in Start with the previous updates? I am on LTSC so I shouldn't really get feature updates as far as I know.

Previously it looked somewhat like this:

View attachment 173896
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One of my systems runs iot LTSC 2024 and it got the same "wide-screen' Start Menu also, not sure why MS bothers.
 

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Why are you still on 24H2?
 

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Win11 24H2 IOT LTSC / Win11 Pro 25H2AMD Ryzen 7 8700G / Ryzen 7 8700G / Ryzen 8600GF5-6000J3636F16GX2-FX5 32GB / Lexar Ares RGB ...internal
OS
Win11 24H2 IOT LTSC / Win11 Pro 25H2
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Gigabyte x2 / Asus = Home builds
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 8700G / Ryzen 7 8700G / Ryzen 8600G
Motherboard
Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX V2 / ASUS TUF GAMING B650-PLUS / B650 GAMING X AX V2
Memory
F5-6000J3636F16GX2-FX5 32GB / Lexar Ares RGB LD5BU016G-R6000GDLA 32GB / Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB DDR5-5600
Graphics Card(s)
internal
Sound Card
Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
BenQ 27 L EW2780
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Many M.2's (WD)
PSU
be quiet! Pure Power 13 M 550W
Case
Chieftec HC-10B-OP
Cooling
Gelid Solutions Tranquillo 5, many Noctua's 12x12
Keyboard
Microsoft
Mouse
Cherry
Internet Speed
500 mbs
Browser
Vivaldi
Antivirus
Eset
Other Info
PC builder / repair / Trouble-shooter etc.

My Computers My Computers

System One System Two

  • At a glance

    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26300.9550 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦26H2AMD Ryzen 7 3700XG.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26300.9550 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦26H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 5302)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1

  • At a glance

    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 15 years?
I am just trying to understand at which point my computer got this update and what it is called. I guess nobody knows for sure.
 

My Computers My Computers

System One System Two

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 24H2
    OS
    Windows 11 24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 23H2
    Operating System
    Windows 11 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
BlueShark said:
I am just trying to understand at which point my computer got this update
Click to expand...
Probably between the time it wasn't there, and the time you first noticed it .... ?
 

My Computers My Computers

System One System Two

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 2xH2 (latest update ... forever anal)Intel i5-124008GBNVIDIA GeForce GT730
    OS
    Windows 11 2xH2 (latest update ... forever anal)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Slim S01
    CPU
    Intel i5-12400
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT730
    Sound Card
    OOBE
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 32"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    512GB KIOXIA NVMe
    1TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    OOBE
    Case
    OOBE
    Cooling
    OOBE
    Keyboard
    BT
    Mouse
    BT
    Browser
    Brave FFox Chrome Opera
    Antivirus
    KIS

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 2xH2 (latest update ... 4ever ...i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHzIntel Iris Xe Graphics
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 2xH2 (latest update ... 4ever anal)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion 15
    CPU
    i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Hard Drives
    Samsung NVMe 512GB
    + numerous/multiple SSD Type C USB enclosures
    Internet Speed
    NBN FTTN 50
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    KIS
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