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Trying to 'fix' Widgets on Win 11, and the 'Get' for "Windows web experience pack" fails with the error x80070057.
Ok - a quick history overview.
When this PC's OS was Win 10 this error had been with me for a year, and I had used the MS update catalogue to update.
A few weeks back there was an update which was listed on Windows Update as purporting to improve 'Windows Update' so I went to the catalogue and was surprised that the associated KB4023057 was NOT available for my OS version.
I ending up doing and 'in-place upgrade' - not my favourite thing. Didn't help at all.
As there seemed no way getting past that particular KB, and I found out that Win 11 was available I upgraded to Win 11 (Yes my PC was and is eminently suitable).
So I am at Win 11 and now want to install the above app from the MS store.
BUT IT FAILS with the error x80070057 same as windows update.

I am guessing that there is a problem with running the code, as using the catalogue runs the standalone in a place where I put it, rather than where the OS puts it.
(Windows update and MS store seem to download okay but give the error on trying to run)
If I know where they put code to run, I can check permissions etc
Any help welcome.
 
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I think it's either
C:\Windows\servicing\Packages
or
C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download

I usually keep the Windows program "Resource Monitor" running, the tab "Disk-Disk Activity" will always tell you where files are read and written:
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Have you tried resetting Windows Update?


There's also the 'FixWin' tool from The Windows Club. I've not used it to comment if it works well though.

 

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I think it's either
C:\Windows\servicing\Packages
or
C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download

I usually keep the Windows program "Resource Monitor" running, the tab "Disk-Disk Activity" will always tell you where files are read and written:
View attachment 11287
Both of these folders have the latest files as 22/10/21 which is when I upgraded from Win 10 Pro to Win 11 Pro (3 days ago)
The 'Get' definitely showed as download 100% then installing and immediately failed. Unless the download was deleted, there must be another folder that is pertinent.
 

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Have you tried resetting Windows Update?


There's also the 'FixWin' tool from The Windows Club. I've not used it to comment if it works well though.

Doing the last year I have tried everything I could find on the internet (from sources I could trust). I sorta gave up eventually and thought if I use the MS update catalogue forever, then what's the harm in that.
However, new OS, give it another go even though the error situation is the same on Win 11 as it was on Win 10.
Will let you know how it goes.
 

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Just a side note, I delete all the Windows update log files, and all of the files in the Software Distribution/Download folder every single day.
I use Windows Automatic Update Manager and check for updates myself, and yet the Update log files build and build, if I didn`t delete them myself there would be thousands of them taking up space.
So, I wonder how they build up if I`m using WAUM.
Also, after a CU I delete the Rollup folder in Servicing/LCU
 
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Doing the last year I have tried everything I could find on the internet (from sources I could trust). I sorta gave up eventually and thought if I use the MS update catalogue forever, then what's the harm in that.
However, new OS, give it another go even though the error situation is the same on Win 11 as it was on Win 10.
Will let you know how it goes.



It probably won't help. If the In-Place upgrade didn't help on Win 10, then updating to Win 11 won't fix the problem.
You need to do a clean install of Windows 11.


 

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It probably won't help. If the In-Place upgrade didn't help on Win 10, then updating to Win 11 won't fix the problem.
You need to do a clean install of Windows 11.
Thanks Ghot, that kinda confirms my suspicions.
Can you give me an idea of how long this would take, so I can plan it?
 

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Thanks Ghot, that kinda confirms my suspicions.
Can you give me an idea of how long this would take, so I can plan it?


A clean install is fast. Equal to or less than the time it takes to do an In-Place upgrade.
It takes me about 30 mins to do a clean install, and then another 30 minutes to do the tweaks linked below...


And here's most of the things in Win 11, that folks want to change back to the way they were in Windows 10...

 

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    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
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    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
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    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
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    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    100/100
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    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?183088-5000-B-E-on-M2N32-SLI-Dlx-Overclocked&p=2891724#post2891724

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It`s reinstalling your programs and customizing windows to your liking that takes all the time, installing Windows takes maybe a half hour or less. I just did a clean install of W11 on a new 980 Pro when W11 was released..
I didn`t time it, but was well under a hour.
 
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    Samsung 980 Pro 500GB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2, Western Digital Black 4TB x1
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    EVGA 1200 P2, EVGA Black Custom Braided Cables
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    Intel Core i7 6700K
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    Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1
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    Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti FE x2, EVGA Pro HB SLI Bridge
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    Realtek High Definition
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    AOC G2460PG
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    EVGA 1000 P2, EVGA White Custom Braided Cables
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It`s reinstalling your programs and customizing windows to your liking that takes all the time, installing Windows takes maybe a half hour or less. I just did a clean install of W11 on a new 980 Pro.
I didn`t time it but was well under a hour.
I'll do a Belarc Advisor dump first, which will remind me of all the stuff I have installed.
 

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    Intel Core i7 9700K 3.6GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus TUF Z390-Plus Gaming WiFi
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 3.200 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVidia GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8 GB
    Sound Card
    On Motherboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
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    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    2 SSDs and 1 HDD
    PSU
    Corsair RM750X Gold - 750w
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    Fractal Design Define R6 Black/Silent Case
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I'll do a Belarc Advisor dump first, which will remind me of all the stuff I have installed.



If it was me, I'd just lose... Belarc Advisor. ^^
IMHO, it breaks more things than it fixes.

Windows 11, and even Windows 10 are very good at getting themselves... up and running.
 

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    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
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    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE
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    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
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    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
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    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
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    Hard Drives
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    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
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    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
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    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
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    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?183088-5000-B-E-on-M2N32-SLI-Dlx-Overclocked&p=2891724#post2891724

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If it was me, I'd just lose... Belarc Advisor. ^^
IMHO, it breaks more things than it fixes.

Windows 11, and even Windows 10 are very good at getting themselves... up and running.
Oh that's interesting, I thought Belarc Advisor was 'passive' in that it did NOT change anything, but just collected information and reported.
 

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Oh that's interesting, I thought Belarc Advisor was 'passive' in that it did NOT change anything, but just collected information and reported.


It is passive. It's when the user "listens" to it, that things get broken. :)



I use Bitdefender AV/Firewall. It has a "Vulnerability" module. I don't listen to that either.
CCleaner has a "PC Health Check". I ignore it completely.

In fact, any program that tries to advise me, or tell me things I should fix... I ignore.
The guy(s) who write those programs, aren't sitting in front of my computer... I am. :D



You know what you want your computer to do... better than anyone else.
Just follow a few common sense rules of thumb, and you won't "have" problems.

1. Use backup software.
2. Update drivers manually.
3. Anything you download, even a .pdf file, scan it at Virustotal.com
4. See rule #1
5. See rule #1
6. See rule #1






Clean install Win 11. Install your drivers. Update Windows. Make a backup.
Install your programs, do your settings, do your tweaks. Make a backup.

Any time you're gonna make changes to your computer, make a backup first.
After the changes... let things run for a few days. If no problems... make a new backup.

Backups aren't a chore, they are a tool.

Use backups like a mountain climber uses pitons. Climb a little bit (make a few changes on comp), drive in another piton.
Climb a bit more, another piton, etc., etc., etc.

Then... if you ever slip (Windows goes nuts)... the piton (backup) below you, will save your *ss. :)



You don't have to be an expert at Windows. But you should definitely be good at backups. :)
 
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    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
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    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE
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    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
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    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
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    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    LG GH22LS30 CD/DVD Burner
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    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
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    COOLER MASTER ATCS 840 Full Tower
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    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
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    Logitech Optical M-100
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    Bitdefender Internet Security 2020
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    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
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    Built by Ghot®
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
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    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
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    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
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    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    100/100
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
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    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?183088-5000-B-E-on-M2N32-SLI-Dlx-Overclocked&p=2891724#post2891724

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But let`s get back to your original question.
"Trying to 'fix' Widgets on Win 11, and the 'Get' for "Windows web experience pack" fails with the error x80070057."

Why are you bothering with either of these ?
 

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    Intel Core i9 9900X
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    Asus ROG Strix X299-E Gaming II
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    GSkill Trident Z RGB 32GB 3600 16-16-16-36 (F4-3600C16Q-32GTZR)
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    Zotac RTX 2080 Ti AMP Extreme
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    Supreme FX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus PG279Q
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    2560 x 1440 165Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 500GB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2, Western Digital Black 4TB x1
    PSU
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    Corsair H115i, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
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    Intel Core i7 6700K
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    Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1
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    GSkill Trident Z RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36 (F4-3600C16D-16GTZR)
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    Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti FE x2, EVGA Pro HB SLI Bridge
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    Realtek High Definition
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    AOC G2460PG
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    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Pro 512GB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2
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    EVGA 1000 P2, EVGA White Custom Braided Cables
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    Corsair Vengeance C70 Gunmetal Black
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    Corsair H100i v2, Corsair ML120 x2, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
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It is passive. It's when the user "listens" to it, that things get broken. :)



I use Bitdefender AV/Firewall. It has a "Vulnerability" module. I don't listen to that either.
CCleaner has a "PC Health Check". I ignore it completely.

In fact, any program that tries to advise me, or tell me things I should fix... I ignore.
The guy(s) who write those programs, aren't sitting in front of my computer... I am. :D



You know what you want your computer to do... better than anyone else.
Just follow a few common sense rules of thumb, and you won't "have" problems.

1. Use backup software.
2. Update drivers manually.
3. Anything you download, even a .pdf file, scan it at Virustotal.com
4. See rule #1
5. See rule #1
6. See rule #1
My first three rules are your rules 4, 5 and 6 (at least for my data).
I backup (1) internally from SSD to a hard drive, then (2) externally to an attached disc drive and then (3) via LAN to a NAS in the garage.
Even my partner (totally hates computers) has been trained to press 'Backup and Close' icon (in red) on the desktop.
I also generate a recovery disc for the OS every now and again. (via 'Win 7 backup and restore').
I'm not mad keen on image backups (don't do them), but I know they have a place for some people.
All downloads get scanned by ZoneAlarm.

To understand me you have to realize that I have a good Sat Nav in my car, but often tell her to shutup and ignore it and go my own way.
It's a tool not my master.
 

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    Intel Core i7 9700K 3.6GHz
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    Asus TUF Z390-Plus Gaming WiFi
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 3.200 MHz
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    NVidia GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8 GB
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    Monitor(s) Displays
    BENQ GL2780E 27"
    Screen Resolution
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    Hard Drives
    2 SSDs and 1 HDD
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    Corsair RM750X Gold - 750w
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    Fractal Design Define R6 Black/Silent Case
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But let`s get back to your original question.
"Trying to 'fix' Widgets on Win 11, and the 'Get' for "Windows web experience pack" fails with the error x80070057."

Why are you bothering with either of these ?
I think that Ghot is saying that the real root cause requires a clean install of Win 11, and nothing else will fix the problem.
 

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    Asus TUF Z390-Plus Gaming WiFi
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    32GB DDR4 3.200 MHz
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    Corsair RM750X Gold - 750w
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    Fractal Design Define R6 Black/Silent Case
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Of course it will. But that`s not answering the question.
You said you have done a inplace upgrade and that didn`t fix the problem either.
The problem was carried over from W10.
 

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    Intel Core i9 9900X
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    Asus ROG Strix X299-E Gaming II
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    GSkill Trident Z RGB 32GB 3600 16-16-16-36 (F4-3600C16Q-32GTZR)
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    Zotac RTX 2080 Ti AMP Extreme
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    Supreme FX
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    Asus PG279Q
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    2560 x 1440 165Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 500GB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2, Western Digital Black 4TB x1
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    EVGA 1200 P2, EVGA Black Custom Braided Cables
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    Corsair H115i, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
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    Windows 10 Pro x64
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    Skylake Special Z170
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    Intel Core i7 6700K
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    Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1
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    GSkill Trident Z RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36 (F4-3600C16D-16GTZR)
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    Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti FE x2, EVGA Pro HB SLI Bridge
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    Realtek High Definition
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    AOC G2460PG
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 144Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Pro 512GB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2
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    EVGA 1000 P2, EVGA White Custom Braided Cables
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    Corsair Vengeance C70 Gunmetal Black
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    Corsair H100i v2, Corsair ML120 x2, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
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    Logitech G500s
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    Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum
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    Verizon Fios Quantum Gateway 75/75
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Backing up your data is great.

You also need to backup Windows.
You first posted about KB4023057 on Oct. 20th, 5 days ago.

IF you had had a backup of Windows from before the time that problem popped up, you could have fixed it in 5 minutes.
We back up data so we don't lose the data. We back up Windows so we don't lose... 5 days or however many days.
 

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    Win 10 Home 10.0.22000.348 (x64)
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    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
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    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE
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    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
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    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    (onboard) Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    LG GH22LS30 CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    COOLER MASTER ATCS 840 Full Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    100/100
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security 2020
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot®
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    100/100
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?183088-5000-B-E-on-M2N32-SLI-Dlx-Overclocked&p=2891724#post2891724

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Of course it will. But that`s not answering the question.
You said you have done a inplace upgrade and that didn`t fix the problem either.
The problem was carried over from W10.
To specifically answer your question - I would like my OS to be flexible and have the ability to use ALL the features that should be there.
I feel that if one part of it doesn't work, the impact may be felt later elsewhere when least expected (and probably at a bad time).
That was why I tried for a year on and off to fix the original error 0x80070057.
And YES your last 2 sentences are correct.
I'm not quite certain if you agree with Ghot that a clean install of Win 11 is the way forward.
 

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  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro Build 22000.282 (23/10/21)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Hand built to my Spec
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 9700K 3.6GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus TUF Z390-Plus Gaming WiFi
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 3.200 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVidia GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8 GB
    Sound Card
    On Motherboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BENQ GL2780E 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    2 SSDs and 1 HDD
    PSU
    Corsair RM750X Gold - 750w
    Case
    Fractal Design Define R6 Black/Silent Case
    Cooling
    1 CPU fan and 5 case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logi
    Internet Speed
    200Mbps down 20Mbps up
    Browser
    Edge and Crome
    Antivirus
    Zone Alarm
    Other Info
    Upgraded from Win 10 to Win 11 on 22/10/21.
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