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Backing up your data is great.

You also need to backup Windows.
You first posted about KB4023057 on Oct. 20th, 5 days ago.

IF you had had a backup of Windows from before the time that problem popped up, you could have fixed it in 5 minutes.
We back up data so we don't lose the data. We back up Windows so we don't lose... 5 days or however many days.
So going forward - I should backup Windows Image on a regular basis. After my clean install of course.
Do you have any recommendations for backup software for that - my last attempt at using propriety software a few years ago on Win 7 was that I couldn't trust any software that I tried. I was not filled with confidence that when required the image could actual be used to reinstall Windows, so thought it was a total waste of time. Hence my strategy for the data, and hopefully Windows is ALWAYS recoverable one way or another (probably more true now than what it was several years ago).
 

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I totally agree with Mike, and also install it on a brand new drive, if possible.
 

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So going forward - I should backup Windows Image on a regular basis. After my clean install of course.
Do you have any recommendations for backup software for that - my last attempt at using propriety software a few years ago on Win 7 was that I couldn't trust any software that I tried. I was not filled with confidence that when required the image could actual be used to reinstall Windows, so thought it was a total waste of time. Hence my strategy for the data, and hopefully Windows is ALWAYS recoverable one way or another (probably more true now than what it was several years ago).



Most of the folk on here use Macrium Reflect.
It also has bootable Rescue Media, so you can access your backups, even if Windows won't boot.

AOMEI Backupper is also used a lot.
 

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I'm now near to my first 'Clean Install' and there is a lot of documentation to read.
I have a question relating to step 11 choosing a partition for the OS.
I currently have 4 partitions on an SSD:
1. 100 MB ER System Partition
2. 465 GB OS C:\
3. 620 MB Recovery partition.
4. 513 MB Recovery partition.
In that order and all marked healthy.
Should I delete all of them or just the C: drive item 2?
 

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The normal action has previously been to delete all of them.
You can apparently just delete the partition you want to install Windows 11 on but I'd say that choice would only be suitable if you were clean installing Windows 11 onto a disk that had already had Windows 11 on it [or possibly Windows 10?] and you had some reason to be certain that those auxiliary partitions were in perfect condition. You can get better guidance by posting your question in the Clean install tutorial thread.
See Step 11 of
Clean Install - ElevenForumTutorials

Best of luck, I've only done an upgrade so far.

Denis
 

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I usually clean all partitions in the "Advanced install mode" (or whatever that name is opposite to express install), then divide the disk into two partitions: one for the OS and one for D:Media where I normally later would have the libraries (Pictures, Music, Videos and Documents).
Just for my personal fun, I calculate in advance how large the C: drive shall be in Gigabytes to make it look lean. For that you have to know the size of the recovery partition. In Win7 for example its 100MB (Win 11 has 500MB afaik). So lets say you want a 250GB C: drive (your milage may vary), calculate 250GB*1024 and add another 100MB for the recovery. This will give you 256*1024+100= 256100 MB and this value I enter into the partitioning tool in during installation. When setup is done, the Explorer will report a nice clean 250GB for C: (and not 249,8 or so...). As said, doesn't have a practical value but just looks nicely :wink: The remaining space I dedicate to D:

Now why to clean the disk completely? Reason for that: older partitions might still have a bootmgr or similar left over enogh to cause startup delays or waste disk space: I was once suprised with a GRUB bootmgr I left on the disk years ago from a Linux install when I chose "Express setup" instead of the "Advanced Setup".
 

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@BaJohn

I usually clean all partitions in the "Advanced install mode" (or whatever that name is opposite to express install), then divide the disk into two partitions: one for the OS and one for D:Media where I normally later would have the libraries (Pictures, Music, Videos and Documents).
Just for my personal fun, I calculate in advance how large the C: drive shall be in Gigabytes to make it look lean. For that you have to know the size of the recovery partition. In Win7 for example its 100MB (Win 11 has 500MB afaik). So lets say you want a 250GB C: drive (your milage may vary), calculate 250GB*1024 and add another 100MB for the recovery. This will give you 256*1024+100= 256100 MB and this value I enter into the partitioning tool in during installation. When setup is done, the Explorer will report a nice clean 250GB for C: (and not 249,8 or so...). As said, doesn't have a practical value but just looks nicely :wink: The remaining space I dedicate to D:

Now why to clean the disk completely? Reason for that: older partitions might still have a bootmgr or similar left over enogh to cause startup delays or waste disk space: I was once suprised with a GRUB bootmgr I left on the disk years ago from a Linux install when I chose "Express setup" instead of the "Advanced Setup".
I'm not to bothered about the space thing, as I have another SSD for data and a HDD for internal backups only. Every time the PC is closed, we can optionally backup the data to internal HDD, then external USB then NAS.
I'm guessing that the 3 non OS partitions MAY be related to the fact that this drive was originally Win 7, then 10 and now 11.
Presumably there are no other partitions, other than those shown on 'Disk Management' (i.e. hidden ones)?
 

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The normal action has previously been to delete all of them.
You can apparently just delete the partition you want to install Windows 11 on but I'd say that choice would only be suitable if you were clean installing Windows 11 onto a disk that had already had Windows 11 on it [or possibly Windows 10?] and you had some reason to be certain that those auxiliary partitions were in perfect condition. You can get better guidance by posting your question in the Clean install tutorial thread.
See Step 11 of
Clean Install - ElevenForumTutorials

Best of luck, I've only done an upgrade so far.

Denis
I am installing Win 11 on a disk that has Win 11 on it, but I think I will delete all 4 partitions.
Presumably the software will automatically create 2 only partitions, OS and the Win 11 500MB?
 

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Presumably the software will automatically create 2 only partitions, OS and the Win 11 500MB?

It will create whatever partitions it needs.

I don't know if it will be two or three partitions.

Best of luck,
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You should see three partitions + any you have created yourself.
The three OS partitions will be the EFI partition, the MSR partition and Windows partition itself.

EDIT: there used to be a limit of 4 partitions on a MBR formatted disk. On GPT formatted disks the limit is now 128 partitions !!
 

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