Solved Why is 2h24 a "disaster" to some people.


You only hear about people who have problems with 24H2. You don't hear from the Millions of people that installed and have no problems with it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit 24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Gigabyte Z390 UD
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 77000 3.60
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z390 UD
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GEForce RTX 2060 Super
    Sound Card
    onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Two 27" Dell 4K monitors
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    M.2 NVME SSD, 500 GB; Two 2TB Mechanical HDD's
    PSU
    850w PSU
    Case
    Cyberpower PC
    Cooling
    Water cooled
    Keyboard
    Backlit Cyberpower gamiong keyboard
    Mouse
    Backlit Cyberpower gaming mouse
    Internet Speed
    1 GB mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
Many who have had problems with 24H2 seem to be using tweaking programs like Start All Black. I suggest trying 24H2 'as is' before modifying hundreds of system settings! That way you will know if 24H2 runs well on your system.

I have one system already modified a lot and in use by my wife. It is not an option for me to undo all the tweaks that make her system easy for her to use.

I have 2 other systems with a minimal 2H23 install. Minimal install and config work so far. So it would not cost me a lot to simply do a clean 2H24 and start over.
I have 1 other system that is still running Windows 2H22 and is getting pretty creaky, probably due to some bit rot. I need to get this system onto Win 11 pretty soon

After a week, add your tweaks if you must and then you will know if the tweaks are the real cause of any issues. 90% of all problems reported on this forum seem to be self inflicted.
I really, really don't like Win 11 OOB. So I use tools like Explorer.Patcher, Winaero and individual reg entries.
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    home built
    CPU
    AMD 7900x
    Motherboard
    ASUS AMD x670E ROG Strix E-A
    Memory
    64 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia 3060 Ti (but wanting to upgrade)
    Sound Card
    built-in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 24"
    Cooling
    AIO for CPU, fans for case
    Keyboard
    Das Keyboard 4
    Mouse
    Corsair M65 (white)
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender
    Other Info
    Also have Lenovo T14S laptop (me) and Lenovo Slim 71 (wife)
Thanks to all who took the time to respond to my question. Much appreciated.

I have decided that
(1) I will not upgrade my wife's system until November.
(2) for the remaining 3 systems, I will do a clean 2H24 install. For 2 systems, that means overwriting installs with minimal program installs and tweaks.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    home built
    CPU
    AMD 7900x
    Motherboard
    ASUS AMD x670E ROG Strix E-A
    Memory
    64 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia 3060 Ti (but wanting to upgrade)
    Sound Card
    built-in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 24"
    Cooling
    AIO for CPU, fans for case
    Keyboard
    Das Keyboard 4
    Mouse
    Corsair M65 (white)
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender
    Other Info
    Also have Lenovo T14S laptop (me) and Lenovo Slim 71 (wife)
The significant issue I have with 24H2 is network name resolution appears to be somewhat broken. This version doesn't populate names for any Win10 machines in NETWORK, but it finds all the Win 11 machines and the NAS boxes. It's not an access issue as I can simply enter \\<computer-name> and find the Win 10 machines, it's just that they don't show up in NETWORK.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Build 26100.3915, Experience Pack 1000.26100.83.0
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14500
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M G P WIFI
    Memory
    64GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    Chipset Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 45" Ultragear, Acer 24" 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    5120x1440, 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD (O/S)
    Silicon Power 2TB US75 Nvme PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280 SSD (backup)
    Crucial BX500 2TB 3D NAND (2nd backup)
    External off-line backup Drives: 2 NVMe 4TB drives in external enclosures
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W
    Case
    LIAN LI LANCOOL 216 E-ATX PC Case
    Cooling
    Lots of fans!
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Build 26100.3915, Experience Pack 1000.26100.83.0
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Sound Card
    Realtek Embedded
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" HP 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 eD NAND PCIe SSD
    Samsung EVO 990 2TB NVMe Gen4 SSD
    Samsung 2TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    Thermaltake Smart BM3 650W
    Case
    Okinos Micro ATX Case
    Cooling
    Fans
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Security
Thanks to all who took the time to respond to my question. Much appreciated.

I have decided that
(1) I will not upgrade my wife's system until November.
(2) for the remaining 3 systems, I will do a clean 2H24 install. For 2 systems, that means overwriting installs with minimal program installs and tweaks.
I have an excellent Backup program, Macrium Reflect, and I never hesitate to upgrade to the latest version of Windows.

Why? Because before I do the upgrade, I take a full backup and if, after the upgrade, it results in a real disaster, then I restore.

If there is a confirmed issue with the latest version of Windows (or any of my apps, for that matter) and it is an issue that, for me, is a showstopper, then I will not upgrade; otherwise, yes, I am always ready and willing to upgrade to the latest version, especially since I know that I can readily restore to my previous version, should the upgrade prove to be disastrous.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Laptop Studio
    Memory
    32GB
    Hard Drives
    1TB
Let me add along with my other post. 24h2 is a disaster a lot of the time because the user does not goes into the upgrade with a clean system. Also a user will have issues and panic when most times the issues are fixable if the user has at least an inkling of computer savvy and has patience enough for finding the right solution in the better support forums on the web. Instead, they will click on the first search result they find and try a "fix" that might not be exactly the one for their own issue., it doesn't work, then they'll watch one of the very off-the wall videos and try that. They keep messing around until they are in worse shape than when they started.
I do not use any website unless I know its reputation. Fixes on reddit are my very last resort for fixing anything. Not saying there are not knowledgeable reddit folks, but I've found they are few and far between. While there are some extremely helpful videos on youtube, there are just as many that can get you in trouble. Always make sure the video applies exactly to what you want, and read its comments along with the number of comments it has. See if the creator of the video has multiple computer repair related videos on his channel.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.3775
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme+ 4gb Solidigm nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    #1 Edge #2 Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
Let me add along with my other post. 24h2 is a disaster a lot of the time because the user does not goes into the upgrade with a clean system.

The alternative is to do that clean install, redo all the customizations and then re-install programs and configuraitions.

Long term, that may be practical for me because I'm exploring package managers like UniGetUI and PatchMyPC. And I'm hoping that I can learn to capture registry changes that allow me to apply config changes relatively easily. Long-term.
Also a user will have issues and panic when most times the issues are fixable if the user has at least an inkling of computer savvy and has patience enough for finding the right solution in the better support forums on the web. Instead, they will click on the first search result they find and try a "fix" that might not be exactly the one for their own issue., it doesn't work, then they'll watch one of the very off-the wall videos and try that. They keep messing around until they are in worse shape than when they started.

I do not use any website unless I know its reputation.

To me at least, I would do searches on this forum and very few others.

Fixes on reddit are my very last resort for fixing anything. Not saying there are not knowledgeable reddit folks, but I've found they are few and far between.

I find reddit mostly a waste of my time.


While there are some extremely helpful videos on youtube, there are just as many that can get you in trouble. Always make sure the video applies exactly to what you want, and read its comments along with the number of comments it has. See if the creator of the video has multiple computer repair related videos on his channel.
Agreed. I don't really like videos because listenning to someone speak (or just blather on) is very poor use of time compared to reading a text-based solution.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    home built
    CPU
    AMD 7900x
    Motherboard
    ASUS AMD x670E ROG Strix E-A
    Memory
    64 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia 3060 Ti (but wanting to upgrade)
    Sound Card
    built-in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 24"
    Cooling
    AIO for CPU, fans for case
    Keyboard
    Das Keyboard 4
    Mouse
    Corsair M65 (white)
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender
    Other Info
    Also have Lenovo T14S laptop (me) and Lenovo Slim 71 (wife)
And I'm hoping that I can learn to capture registry changes that allow me to apply config changes
About 99.9 % of the registry changes I make come from this forum's tutorials. Since Brink always gives the contents of his regedit files, I keep all of them merged into one master regedit file so I can apply them all in one go if necessary. I also have a list of changes I make in settings and another of all the junk apps I always uninstall. I did a clean install in Oct. when the 24h2 upgrade kept failing and had my Windows up, running and tweaked in probably 30 min, or less. Installing apps took a lot longer but since I decided not to install "stuff" I never used, I'm running a lot leaner than before.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.3775
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme+ 4gb Solidigm nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    #1 Edge #2 Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
In my opinion and regard, 24H2 does have a lot of issues, and a lot of the "new features" seem to be often "hurried", and not exactly well thought out and implemented - which almost weekly a new feature that, hence, I know I will never use (as well as several others), suddenly appear. In the mean time, several features that are both new and old, are often left broken, and some of which seem forgotten and remain broken. One of the major breaks that still need completely revamped is windows/ file explorer. Agree or disagree with me (we all have different configs as well as opinions), but windows explorer is the back bone of Windows in general, period. An example of this is when explorer refuses to open, or when it does, navigation sometimes is impossible as it freezes constantly and consistently. It is also slow to open and as of late is slow to close. This issue, has been going on for months now with no resolve - worked pretty good with 23H2 by the way (fast and responsive). However, with each new update it is claimed something is fixed, and whether it may or may not be fully implemented, something else is broken. But overall, when you can find workarounds, and/ or fixes yourself, it can work amazing. The hardest part though, are customizations and implementing them on your PC to work the way YOU want YOUR PC to work. The big MS doesn't like that. They don't want you to move the taskbar around, enable more transparency, or customize it to YOUR preferences like in the previous versions. Instead, they just want their product "Windows 11" and "features" enforced and bestowed upon the user. Many suggestions were out there for years, and they know that, they read them. But do they work on what actual real life people want? That remains to be seen as of this date. However, that's why many of us mod our PC's. So that our PC can function exactly how we'd like it too. Since Windows 11 was released, a significant amount of features were stripped away and never thought about or reimagined again, which is when I began my journey of learning to code. With each new update or new features added, they typically break the functioning of these mods - some are purposeful and some aren't. A classic example of this is explorer patcher. MS literally hates explorer patcher. For those that don't know, do a simple search with your preferred search engine, too much to explain why on the front. However, when you can get it to work fully for you, installing mods, finding workarounds, authoring customized code, 24H2 can really work for you and can be quite impressive. 24H2 by itself (along with Windows 11), in my opinion, is garbage.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Professional 24H2; Linux Mint
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer
    CPU
    12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-1215U 1.20 GHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Aspire C24-1700
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Video Card: Intel Arc UHD Graphics (Alder Lake-P 282 GT2) - Integrated Graphics Controller [ACER]
    Sound Card
    Intel Alder Lake-P PCH - cAVS (Audio, Voice, Speech)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer [Unknown Model: ACR40B0]
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD: WDC PC SN530 SDBPNPZ-512G-1114
    SSD: TEAM TM8PS7512G
    HDD: WDC WD20JDRW-11C7VS0
    HDD: Seagate ST2000LM007-1R8174 HDD: Seagate ST1000LM035-1RK172
    Case
    Acer AIO
    Browser
    Brave, Chrome, Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
I belong in the club of those specific Windows users who find that ANY version of Windows 11 is a disaster on ANY computer if multiple tweaks (and that also include ExplorerPatcher, also on 24H2 actually...) aren't used to un-clusterfeck the situation. System 2 in my specs originally came with Windows 10 version 2004. Not once have I done a clean install on it, I have been using it daily since 2021 (4 years 2 months 3.5 weeks ago). I upgraded it to Windows 11 by using the Installation Assistant from Microsoft the weekend after Windows 11 officially came out, and I also used the Installation Assistant to further upgrade it to 24H2 soon after 24H2 started to be rolled out in October last year.

Some people use a 3rd party AV and they load all kinds of crap onto their PC, and/or they use the wrong tweaks or they use the right tweaks but they use them wrong, and then they wonder why their PC never does what they want. I am heavily inclined to believe that the vast majority of "24H2 problems" factually are caused by Refusing (with a capital letter 'R') to learn the basics of how to operate and maintain a Windows PC and do it properly. TBH, I haven't touched a 3rd party AV in 15 years. Just sayin'. Not that all problems are caused by 3rd party AV. Far from it actually, but I know that a lot of them still are.

Running crap like 3rd party AV can be equally as damaging as, if not worse than, reading the wrong Reddit posts or watching the wrong YouTube video. Contrary to popular belief, the same also applies to reading wrong ElevenForum posts. Misinformation spreads like a virus. ElevenForum is not immune. I am sure that everyone will agree that only macs are immune to virus! Also, Linux must always be used to fix Windows problems. Always. Another thing is that Canadians are very polite.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
  • Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
@bn40400

Your post sounds like a "I hate Microsoft" testimoney. Here's how I see some of your complaints,

explorer refuses to open-I've never experienced that. I have 3 systems running 24h2.

It is also slow to open and as of late is slow to close.- I've not had that either
it freezes constantly and consistently.-Not for me. I've used 11 since the day it was first released. I might have had half a dozen freezes in all that time. Since this version of explorer has been completely revamped, it's in its infancy so an occassional freeze (as for me) is not unexpected. If you have constant freezes, you need to look at the software you have installed. That would be using a clean boot.

The hardest part though, are customizations and implementing them on your PC to work the way YOU want YOUR PC to work.- Not really for me. Everything is pretty much the way I want without using 3rd party apps. Brinks tutorials have native fixes that have changed all the things that irked me in the OS. When my OS upgrades to a newer version, I just make the same changes again.

You want to "MOD" your computer, go right ahead, but you have no room to complain when an update or upgrade comes along to break any/all of those mods because you do not own your Windows. MS does. They can do whatever they want with it whether we, as users, like it or not. It does not belong to us. I've used it for 30+ years and it has NEVER belonged to me. All I have is a license to use it.

MS never promised on any version of windows that I would have all the native settings that was available in previous versions of windows, nor did they promise the OS would look and work the same. In all honesty, I feel they have always left the door open for us to change quite a bit. MS does not have to do that. They could lock this OS down tighter than a drum if they want to. Think Apple.

Have I grumbled and groaned about changes along the way. Sure I have, because I was a creature of habit and didn't like change. But I have adapted and learned to accept the changes. Change is inevitable whether I like it or not.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.3775
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme+ 4gb Solidigm nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    #1 Edge #2 Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
I never got Version 24H1 as there was none. I went from 23H2 to 24H2. As far as I've seen 24H1 was only on the IP/Insider Preview channels and I got out of the Win10 IP when Win11 was released back in Oct. '21.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro RTM
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 3400
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz
    Memory
    12GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD NVMe M.2
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro RTM x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 5890
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Onboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Dell
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD NVMe, 4TB Seagate HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender/Microsoft Security
@glasskuter I'm not trying to moan and groan at Microsoft (never lone make it sound like a "I hate Microsoft" post), I do indeed like Microsoft software due to ease of use, etc. But I also wish they would bring back previous customization options and even some features as was in the past. As time has changed, I see their focus on ease of use for the many PC users out there who may or may not lack knowledge in Windows. I too have used Windows for over 30+ years - my first experiences were with 3.1 and DOS. However, I just wish that they would have a stronger foundation with their builds - when they release features, sometimes it will break other features - as in my case, explorer seemed to get impacted the most (which does seem to be mostly fixed now). However, all PC users use their PC for their own purposes, some of which may or may not include mods for better personalization. And yes, I absolutely love Brinks tutorials and fixes, I found myself utilizing a lot of them - that's why I joined the 11 forum. The community as well is great and has been very helpful whenever I experience something I can't figure out or helping others who may have a similar issue. A lot even share code or other fixes as well alongside Brinks fixes and tutorials. A good amount of customizations on my PC have come from this community. I'm appreciative of everyone here, thank you as well for the experience, patience, and the help.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Professional 24H2; Linux Mint
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer
    CPU
    12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-1215U 1.20 GHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Aspire C24-1700
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Video Card: Intel Arc UHD Graphics (Alder Lake-P 282 GT2) - Integrated Graphics Controller [ACER]
    Sound Card
    Intel Alder Lake-P PCH - cAVS (Audio, Voice, Speech)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer [Unknown Model: ACR40B0]
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD: WDC PC SN530 SDBPNPZ-512G-1114
    SSD: TEAM TM8PS7512G
    HDD: WDC WD20JDRW-11C7VS0
    HDD: Seagate ST2000LM007-1R8174 HDD: Seagate ST1000LM035-1RK172
    Case
    Acer AIO
    Browser
    Brave, Chrome, Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
An example of this is when explorer refuses to open, or when it does, navigation sometimes is impossible as it freezes constantly and consistently. It is also slow to open and as of late is slow to close. This issue, has been going on for months now with no resolve -
Sounds like your PC has serious problems. Maybe try repairing your copy of Win11 using the recovery partition. For instructions, Google "Repair Windows 11 using recovery partition". Per safe procedures, do a full backup of your system drive before trying it.

I've not seen Explorer problems you described on either of my two Win11 PCs.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 7, 265K
    Motherboard
    MSI Pro Z890-P WiFi
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Using integrated graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG
    Screen Resolution
    4K
    Hard Drives
    512 GB SSD, 2TB M.2 SSD and 2TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    Seasonic Modular 550 watt Focus Plus
    Case
    Corsair 4000D
    Cooling
    ThermalRight Phantom Sprit
Are there really important reasons not to use 2H24?
Dont know. I know for sure that 24h2 is not equal to 24h2. The newer versions of it seem tonwork better. Even the default file manager seems to be fixed partially in lastest 24h2 builds. It functions again albeit terribly slow.
It's the folks with lots of unique-ness-es or mods to their system that bitch about it.
On early 24h2 builds i had more problems, now it works but explorer.exe as a shell is still a living nightmare.Even longhorn was better in this regard.
 

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  • OS
    24h2 , 24.10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Amd
You don't hear from the Millions of people that installed and have no problems with it.
Well it works fine if you do just open a web browser .
but windows explorer is the back bone of Windows in general, period. An example of this is when explorer refuses to open, or when it does, navigation sometimes is impossible as it freezes constantly and consistently. It is also slow to open and as of late is slow to close.
Got better with latest 24h2 builds.
 

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System One

  • OS
    24h2 , 24.10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Amd
@bluedxca93

"I know for sure that 24h2 is not equal to 24h2."

What did you mean to write? As it is, it makes no sense.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2894
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
Main reason is you only hear chatter about the negatives. However the negatives don't affect everyone. Imagine the thousands upon thousands of 24H2 users who see no issue?
Don't forget the unknown number of users that are having problems and don't know about this or even other sites they can go to about the problems they're experiencing.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    #1. LG ULTRAWIDE 34" #2. AOC Q32G2WG3 32"
    Screen Resolution
    #1. 3440 X 1440 #2. 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
@x509, I'm running the Win 11 Pro 24H2 build on a dual boot setup. When I first installed and ran the build, everything was working great. It wasn't until I ran the Windows update. I forget everything that went wrong but it did. I do know that one problem was that my NVIDIA driver stopped working. The problem was caused by the very first Cumulative update that was installed. This is without any tweaking programs. In fact I think Macrium Reflect was the only program I had installed. Because of this I can say that any problems with 24H2 is because of running any programs that customizes Windows is not always true. To get Win 11 Pro 24H2 to run I had to block the Cumulative update. Since then 24H2 has been running great.
 
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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    #1. LG ULTRAWIDE 34" #2. AOC Q32G2WG3 32"
    Screen Resolution
    #1. 3440 X 1440 #2. 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
What did you mean to write
24h2 just means 10.0. 26100 but there are numbers after it. Especially the shell and explorer seem to have received some updates. Now explorer seem to work again partially as dile manager. The shell is still unusable.microsoft tried to redesign on top of old working code and the result is a terrible user experience ..
 

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System One

  • OS
    24h2 , 24.10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Amd
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