Solved Why is MS all of a Sudden requiring to have an Alternate email address?


win11freak

Well-known member
Member
Local time
3:32 PM
Posts
235
OS
Windows 11 Pro 22H2
I was going to create a MS account but all of a sudden I prompted to create another email address to get the verification codes.
This is NONSENSE as Email Verification codes are not secure as they can be bypassed and i do not feel like creating another email just to get these codes.

Why not just use passkeys along with the Microsoft Authenticator app which are more secure. Why go with the old fashion of having Email verification codes?

At least a phone number option would have been more acceptable . But still not secure.

So eventually, I stayed with my other email account.
 

Attachments

  • Screenshot 2026-08-30 064718.webp
    Screenshot 2026-08-30 064718.webp
    22.1 KB · Views: 1

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 Pro 22H2
OS
Windows 11 Pro 22H2
Microsoft requires an alternative email or phone number during sign-in when it triggers a "Help us secure your account" prompt, and there is no way to permanently bypass this step.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11AMD Ryzen 7 5700GMicron Technology DDR4-3200 16GBNVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060
OS
Windows 11
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
HP Pavilion
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
Motherboard
Erica6
Memory
Micron Technology DDR4-3200 16GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060
Sound Card
Realtek ALC671
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster U28E590
Screen Resolution
3840 x 2160
Hard Drives
SAMSUNG MZVLQ1T0HALB-000H1
Because they ran out of emails to collect and now they need your help to collect more.
[TROLL] 🧌 🙃

No, seriously, FreeBooter is right. It is a way to help you recover a lost account.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Win 11 Pro 25H2 26200.9168 / Linux Mint 22.3Ryzen 7 2700U Pro32GBiGPU Vega 10
    OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2 26200.9168 / Linux Mint 22.3
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo A485
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
    Motherboard
    Lenovo (WiFi/BT module upgraded to Intel Wireless-AC-9260)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    iGPU Vega 10
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
    Screen Resolution
    FHD + FHD + 1440p
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
    PSU
    125W(Dock)/65W(Travel Adapter)
    Keyboard
    Thinkpad / Logitech MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    1/1Gbit
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
  • At a glance

    Win 11 Pro 25H2 26200.9267(RP)i7-7700k @4.8GHz32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
    Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 25H2 26200.9267(RP)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME Z270-A
    Memory
    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" 10-bit Asus PB328Q
    Screen Resolution
    WQHD 2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB ADATA SX8000NP NVMe PCIe Gen 3 x4
    PSU
    850W
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    1/1Gbit
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    AC WiFi Card
  • Asus U46SV (laptop), i5-2410M, 8GB RAM, 500GB SSD, 750GB HDD, Windows 10. (used as a local Minecraft server and data dump)
Can I just create a temporary throw away alternate email account just to continue with the setup and then after that delete the throw away email account?
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 Pro 22H2
OS
Windows 11 Pro 22H2
i use my wifes hotmail email as verification and on my wifes system my hotmail email is used as verification
for us it just keeps things simple and inhouse.

best of luck Steve ..
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 HomeRyzen 7 5825u64GB DDR4 3200Ryzen 7 5825u
    OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP 24" AiO
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5825u
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    64GB DDR4 3200
    Graphics Card(s)
    Ryzen 7 5825u
    Sound Card
    RealTek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" HP AiO
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 @60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB WD Blue SN580 M2 SSD Partitioned.
    2x 1TB USB HDD External Backup/Storage.
    PSU
    90W external power brick
    Case
    24" All in One
    Cooling
    Default Air Cooling
    Keyboard
    HP WiFi UK extended
    Mouse
    HP WiFi 3 Button
    Internet Speed
    1GB full fibre
    Browser
    Edge & Firefox
    Antivirus
    AVG Internet Security/Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Mainly Open Source Software
  • At a glance

    Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTSi5 7200u16GB DDR4Intel
    Operating System
    Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell 13" Latitude 2017
    CPU
    i5 7200u
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel
    Sound Card
    Intel
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13" Dell Laptop
    Hard Drives
    250GB Crucial 2.5" SSD
    Mouse
    Generic WiFi 3 button
    Internet Speed
    WiFi only
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    ClamAV TK
    Other Info
    Mainly Open Source Software
Can I just create a temporary throw away alternate email account just to continue with the setup and then after that delete the throw away email account?
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 Pro 22H2
OS
Windows 11 Pro 22H2
Can I just create a temporary throw away alternate email account just to continue with the setup and then after that delete the throw away email account?

only trouble with a throwaway email account is next time they ask to send a verification to that account it will no longer exist
an alternative permanent email account would be a better choice otherwise you could lock yourself out of your own account

edit.
reason .. when i updated my wifes PIN they asked to send a verification code which was sent to my account.
best of luck Steve ..
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 HomeRyzen 7 5825u64GB DDR4 3200Ryzen 7 5825u
    OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP 24" AiO
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5825u
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    64GB DDR4 3200
    Graphics Card(s)
    Ryzen 7 5825u
    Sound Card
    RealTek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" HP AiO
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 @60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB WD Blue SN580 M2 SSD Partitioned.
    2x 1TB USB HDD External Backup/Storage.
    PSU
    90W external power brick
    Case
    24" All in One
    Cooling
    Default Air Cooling
    Keyboard
    HP WiFi UK extended
    Mouse
    HP WiFi 3 Button
    Internet Speed
    1GB full fibre
    Browser
    Edge & Firefox
    Antivirus
    AVG Internet Security/Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Mainly Open Source Software
  • At a glance

    Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTSi5 7200u16GB DDR4Intel
    Operating System
    Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell 13" Latitude 2017
    CPU
    i5 7200u
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel
    Sound Card
    Intel
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13" Dell Laptop
    Hard Drives
    250GB Crucial 2.5" SSD
    Mouse
    Generic WiFi 3 button
    Internet Speed
    WiFi only
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    ClamAV TK
    Other Info
    Mainly Open Source Software
I just love it when users don't hesitate to jump in for free email account, but when they see service provider's conditions, all of a sudden it's ... "Why do I have to ...", " Why can't I just ....", "Why do they need ...."

Plain and simple ... security.

Can I just create a temporary throw away alternate email account just to continue with the setup and then after that delete the throw away email account?
You can, but I guarantee with that thought, you'll be back here sometime in the future with ... "Help. I can't get into my MS account because (insert any number of reasons) and they want the email ...."

On the other hand, come to think of it, you probable could create a temporary throw away account ... but they'll probably want a verification account for that. You can see where I'm going here ....
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 2xH2 (latest update ... forever anal)Intel i5-124008GBNVIDIA GeForce GT730
    OS
    Windows 11 2xH2 (latest update ... forever anal)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Slim S01
    CPU
    Intel i5-12400
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT730
    Sound Card
    OOBE
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 32"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    512GB KIOXIA NVMe
    1TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    OOBE
    Case
    OOBE
    Cooling
    OOBE
    Keyboard
    BT
    Mouse
    BT
    Browser
    Brave FFox Chrome Opera
    Antivirus
    KIS
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 2xH2 (latest update ... 4ever ...i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHzIntel Iris Xe Graphics
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 2xH2 (latest update ... 4ever anal)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion 15
    CPU
    i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Hard Drives
    Samsung NVMe 512GB
    + numerous/multiple SSD Type C USB enclosures
    Internet Speed
    NBN FTTN 50
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    KIS
I just love it when users don't hesitate to jump in for free email account, but when they see service provider's conditions, all of a sudden it's ... "Why do I have to ...", " Why can't I just ....", "Why do they need ...."

Plain and simple ... security.


You can, but I guarantee with that thought, you'll be back here sometime in the future with ... "Help. I can't get into my MS account because (insert any number of reasons) and they want the email ...."

On the other hand, come to think of it, you probable could create a temporary throw away account ... but they'll probably want a verification account for that. You can see where I'm going here ....
Plain and simple ... security.

I also don't think that sending security verification codes over email and SMS text messages is good security practice.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 Pro 22H2
OS
Windows 11 Pro 22H2
only trouble with a throwaway email account is next time they ask to send a verification to that account it will no longer exist
an alternative permanent email account would be a better choice otherwise you could lock yourself out of your own account

edit.
reason .. when i updated my wifes PIN they asked to send a verification code which was sent to my account.
best of luck Steve ..
If modifying or updating any security details then they should just leave the option to verify by Authenticator app or a passkey.

Email and text verification codes are not secure and they should remove this option.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 Pro 22H2
OS
Windows 11 Pro 22H2
Some of this security just gets too much these days for ordinary home machines e.g rediculous multi request for confirmation via codes that are sent to phones etc (and never arrive) when you do online shopping etc -- It's bonkers, annoying etc -- When security gets this rediculous people just try and avoid the whole thing -- in any case who these days keeps any sort of sizeable sum of money in a current bank account now -- I can understand this for businesses etc but home users ??? .

What's 99% worse is the nonsense of dealing with customer services when you always seem to have to phone (usually to some horrible call centre) -after say getting an email -- but you can never reply to these emails by email -- and people are against all sensible advice given on the planet by nearly every financial regulatory body on Earth in democratic countries forced into making financial arrangements over the phone -- BONKERS !!!!!!!.

I'm sure people these days with so many subscriptions / other regular payments etc may have missed one or two and got the email - please contact xxxx to "regularise" the account - but NO WAY to arrange this other than by phone !!!!!.

Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows XP,11 Linux Fedora Rawhide pre-releas...2 X Intel i7
OS
Windows XP,11 Linux Fedora Rawhide pre-release 46
Computer type
PC/Desktop
CPU
2 X Intel i7
Screen Resolution
4KUHD X 2
13882.webp

'If I lose access to my sign-in info!?!?!?'
How the feck is that gonna happen??? I have it written down on a piece of paper!!!
Nonsense!!!
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
  • ASUS VivoBook 'Lite' ~ Windows 11 Home

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11
OS
Windows 11
Computer type
Laptop
View attachment 181284

'If I lose access to my sign-in info!?!?!?'
How the feck is that gonna happen??? I have it written down on a piece of paper!!!
Nonsense!!!
Have you ever dealt with non tech-savvy people? I sometimes support friends and relatives and I always tell them: "These are your login credentials, write them down you might need them in the future". And when the day finally comes and they need the login credentials they neither remember their password nor do they find the piece of paper onto which they wrote down the login credentials. So yes, a recovery e-mail address is definitely a good idea.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11AMD Ryzen 9 5950XCorsair Vengeance LPX CMK32GX4M2B3200C16 (64 GB)Asus ProArt RTX 5070 Ti OC
OS
Windows 11
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Custom
CPU
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X
Motherboard
Asus ROG Strix X570-F Gaming
Memory
Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK32GX4M2B3200C16 (64 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
Asus ProArt RTX 5070 Ti OC
Sound Card
Sound Blaster AE-9
Monitor(s) Displays
2 x Dell UltraSharp U2413f
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200
Hard Drives
Samsung 990 Pro (2000 GB, M.2 2280)
Seagate Barracuda Pro (12TB, 3.5")
Seagate Exos X12 512E (12TB, 3.5")
WD Red Plus (12 TB, 3.5", CMR)
Corsair Force MP510 M.2 NVME SSD (1788 GB)
Samsung SSD 870 EVO 2TB (SATA)
PSU
Seasonic Vertex PX-1000 (1000 W)
Case
Corsair Obsidian 750D
Cooling
Deepcool GamerStorm Captain 240 Pro (12cm)
Keyboard
Logitech G910
Mouse
Logitech G502
Internet Speed
1000 Mbit/s (synchronous)
Browser
Firefox, Vivaldi
Antivirus
GDATA Internet Security
The Recovery Email address part has been a requirement for many years and not only on Outlook/Hotmail Email Accounts.
Many other free Email accounts are the same.

Can I just create a temporary throw away alternate email account just to continue with the setup and then after that delete the throw away email account?
That is just shooting yourself in the foot.

I also don't think that sending security verification codes over email and SMS text messages is good security practice.
Probably not, but it's more about complying with their requirements in the simplest way to keep a free Email Account.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11
OS
Windows 11
they neither remember their password nor do they find the piece of paper onto which they wrote down the login credentials.
Idiots!!! :cool:
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
  • ASUS VivoBook 'Lite' ~ Windows 11 Home
I agree but this does not help. Unlike a recovery e-mail address which does help in such a situation :lmao:
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11AMD Ryzen 9 5950XCorsair Vengeance LPX CMK32GX4M2B3200C16 (64 GB)Asus ProArt RTX 5070 Ti OC
OS
Windows 11
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Custom
CPU
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X
Motherboard
Asus ROG Strix X570-F Gaming
Memory
Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK32GX4M2B3200C16 (64 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
Asus ProArt RTX 5070 Ti OC
Sound Card
Sound Blaster AE-9
Monitor(s) Displays
2 x Dell UltraSharp U2413f
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200
Hard Drives
Samsung 990 Pro (2000 GB, M.2 2280)
Seagate Barracuda Pro (12TB, 3.5")
Seagate Exos X12 512E (12TB, 3.5")
WD Red Plus (12 TB, 3.5", CMR)
Corsair Force MP510 M.2 NVME SSD (1788 GB)
Samsung SSD 870 EVO 2TB (SATA)
PSU
Seasonic Vertex PX-1000 (1000 W)
Case
Corsair Obsidian 750D
Cooling
Deepcool GamerStorm Captain 240 Pro (12cm)
Keyboard
Logitech G910
Mouse
Logitech G502
Internet Speed
1000 Mbit/s (synchronous)
Browser
Firefox, Vivaldi
Antivirus
GDATA Internet Security
I have all my credentials written down in a physical notebook...,

I also have them in an encrypted Notepad on the PC...

13889.webp

... I have the same on my Phone...

C.webp

... and, I have the most important, most frequently used ones firmly engrafted into my brain!!!
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
  • ASUS VivoBook 'Lite' ~ Windows 11 Home
I use KeePassXC for all my login data. The database is synced on multiple devices (phone, tablet, laptop, desktop) using my self hosted Nextcloud. This means I only have to remember the password for my KeePassXC database. But that's us people who are into computers and tech in general. Ordinary people on the other hand are often far less careful when it comes to passwords.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11AMD Ryzen 9 5950XCorsair Vengeance LPX CMK32GX4M2B3200C16 (64 GB)Asus ProArt RTX 5070 Ti OC
OS
Windows 11
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Custom
CPU
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X
Motherboard
Asus ROG Strix X570-F Gaming
Memory
Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK32GX4M2B3200C16 (64 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
Asus ProArt RTX 5070 Ti OC
Sound Card
Sound Blaster AE-9
Monitor(s) Displays
2 x Dell UltraSharp U2413f
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200
Hard Drives
Samsung 990 Pro (2000 GB, M.2 2280)
Seagate Barracuda Pro (12TB, 3.5")
Seagate Exos X12 512E (12TB, 3.5")
WD Red Plus (12 TB, 3.5", CMR)
Corsair Force MP510 M.2 NVME SSD (1788 GB)
Samsung SSD 870 EVO 2TB (SATA)
PSU
Seasonic Vertex PX-1000 (1000 W)
Case
Corsair Obsidian 750D
Cooling
Deepcool GamerStorm Captain 240 Pro (12cm)
Keyboard
Logitech G910
Mouse
Logitech G502
Internet Speed
1000 Mbit/s (synchronous)
Browser
Firefox, Vivaldi
Antivirus
GDATA Internet Security
Use a local account and problem solved.. no email or phone-number needed. :cool: (y) :coffee:
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Linux: Debian, Kali-linux, Alma, Win:7,10IoT,...i3, i5 and i7 From 2gen to 9th gen... Server ...
    OS
    Linux: Debian, Kali-linux, Alma, Win:7,10IoT,2012R
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Elitebook 840, AsusX53, Aspire E1-572. AsusUX32A, HP Pro3130mt+3010mt, HP Proliant ML150, 3xCustom-PC, i3, i5, i7
    CPU
    i3, i5 and i7 From 2gen to 9th gen... Server dual Xenon
    Hard Drives
    Sata, M.2, SAS
  • At a glance

    Retro: 2003server.XPpro, Win2000, Win98SE, Wi...Oldest intel 8088 up to P4 dual core
    Operating System
    Retro: 2003server.XPpro, Win2000, Win98SE, Win95, Win3.11, MS-DOS, IBM-DOS
    Manufacturer/Model
    Commodore, AST, Fujitsu, Compaq, etc etc. etc Around 15 desktops and 20 laptops in the collection
    CPU
    Oldest intel 8088 up to P4 dual core
    Hard Drives
    MFM, IDE, SCSI
Back
Top Bottom