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To underline what I said about peripheral manufacturers getting going to fill a gap, even if the original MoBo makers do not.
MFG's will update BIOS's so TPM 2/Secure boot is set by default like Asus is doing or users will have to set it themselves, not hard to do.

In the end if you're motherboard doesn't support TPM 2 it's not likely going to support the compatible processor so adding a TPM 2 module will not help
 

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As soon as the announcement was made regarding the requirements of a TPM for Window 11 I checked my system and it said no TPM so I ordered one for my Gigabyte board - I paid the equivalent of a few Dollars for the item and this included expedited shipping.

In the days before the TPM actually arrived I learned that my Motherboard included the type 2.0 TPM in the firmware so it was not needed :rolleyes:, also before the TPM arrived the motherboard stopped working and I replaced it with a MB that included the chipset TPM.

If prices keep increasing I may have to dig the module out and sell it on eBay - Who needs Bitcoins :lmao:
I had to hunt around in my BIOS but I found the setting for TPM 2 and set it along with secure boot. 15 Minute job..
 

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As soon as the announcement was made regarding the requirements of a TPM for Window 11 I checked my system and it said no TPM so I ordered one for my Gigabyte board - I paid the equivalent of a few Dollars for the item and this included expedited shipping.

In the days before the TPM actually arrived I learned that my Motherboard included the type 2.0 TPM in the firmware so it was not needed :rolleyes:, also before the TPM arrived the motherboard stopped working and I replaced it with a MB that included the chipset TPM.

If prices keep increasing I may have to dig the module out and sell it on eBay - Who needs Bitcoins :lmao:
Consider yourself lucky since no one has inventory on these TPM plugin units. My GA-170X UD5 TH Gigabyte motherboard requires the 20 pin version, and absolutely no luck with finding one. They're also gouging the market with exorbitant pricing on these TPM units! No worries though, since my CPU missed the boat for 11 also. Yet, here I am running fine on every build so far of Windows 11. :wink:
 

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Yes I know.
But, like many I have not bothered thinking about them until the W11 situation came on the scene.
Now I, like others have been looking for them.
You are correct there, many have never heard of TPM until Windows 11, and thus there is massive confusion and misinformation about it.

At the end of the day, and especially for system builders who know their way around a BIOS, check your BIOS for PTT before purchasing something you won't need. I also posted links on how to check for TPM, which will also tell you version number (1.2 or 2.0). Others should refer to their owners manual BIOS section and look for something like PTT or some form of a TPM setting switch.

But even if I get one I have since found out that the level of security provided with the 20 pin version will not suffice for W11.
Where are you getting your info? Mine is a 20-pin module and it most definitely is a 2.0 module. Though the board for which I bought it for (Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming GT) has 19 pins since one is missing, the slot is designed for a 20-pin module.

Gigabyte Z170X Gaming GT TPM Pin Layout.JPG

The BIOS does include PTT, so I didn't need the module, but again that was "before" I learned about PTT about a year later.

Anyway, if one does feel the need to get a discrete module, try to get one for the board vendor - Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, etc.
 

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If prices keep increasing I may have to dig the module out and sell it on eBay - Who needs Bitcoins :lmao:

:boom: hmmm... let me go find mine so it can pay my next car payment :money:
 

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Consider yourself lucky since no one has inventory on these TPM plugin units. My GA-170X UD5 TH Gigabyte motherboard requires the 20 pin version, and absolutely no luck with finding one. They're also gouging the market with exorbitant pricing on these TPM units! No worries though, since my CPU missed the boat for 11 also. Yet, here I am running fine on every build so far of Windows 11. :wink:

You might want to read your owner's manual since that BIOS already has firmware TPM 2.0. Point? You don't need to buy a module. Page 55 of your owner's manual here - GA-Z170X-UD5 TH (PDF File). BTW, the key giveaway for me was when you said Z170 :wink:

Folks, (with all due respect to Badger) this is what I'm talking about... people looking for something they don't need. Review your owner's manual "before" hunting down a TPM module!!!
 

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You might want to read your owner's manual since that BIOS already has firmware TPM 2.0. Point? You don't need to buy a module. Page 55 of your owner's manual here - GA-Z170X-UD5 TH (PDF File). BTW, the key giveaway for me was when you said Z170 :wink:

Folks, (with all due respect to Badger) this is what I'm talking about... people looking for something they don't need. Review your owner's manual "before" hunting down a TPM module!!!
Oops, sorry I omitted the Z170.
 

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Oops, sorry I omitted the Z170.

You listed the model number. That's how I knew what manual to look for. However, my point was as soon as I saw the model number, I knew the board supported firmware TPM (PTT). It also helped that I have a Gigabyte Z170 board as stated in a previous post :wink:

All that said, the issue won't be TPM, but the CPU as those boards don't support the min 8th gen CPU's Microsoft is currently insisting on. That board only supports 7 gen CPU's such as an i7-7700K.
 

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You listed the model number. That's how I knew what manual to look for. However, my point was as soon as I saw the model number, I knew the board supported firmware TPM (PTT). It also helped that I have a Gigabyte Z170 board as stated in a previous post :wink:

All that said, the issue won't be TPM, but the CPU as those boards don't support the min 8th gen CPU's Microsoft is currently insisting on. That board only supports 7 gen CPU's such as an i7-7700K.
Exactly. I'm running on a I7-6700K @ 4 GHz here. Makes me question these restrictions because Win11 runs fine here.
 

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Exactly. I'm running on a I7-6700K @ 4 GHz here. Makes me question these restrictions because Win11 runs great here.
I know, I'm running Windows 11 on my backup system with a Gigabyte GA-Z270X-Gaming 8 board with an i7-7700K. No issues there, but that's "now". Who knows what will happen when the RTM releases :unsure:
 

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