Win 11 English International no longer available?

Steve C said:

For the UK I thought the English International version is needed for activation?

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The "English International" in Microsoft site to download Windows 11 refers to the UK English language version. The "English US International" in keyboard layout languages means the same QWERTY keyboard layout as US but with additional dead keys to facilitate typing accented characters. Here in Greece we use US for English and other Latin text and Greek layout for Greek. The Greek layout is exactly the same as the US with the Latin characters replaced with the same looking Greek characters (alpha is in A, beta is in B, delta is in D etc). All the other symbols are at the same key as the US layout, very convenient. I didn't like the UK keyboard layout when I was studying in UK because I tried to type @ and I typed " and other annoying differences to the US layout. Thankfully for just typing text and numbers without symbols, it was the same QWERTY as US. French layout is more confusing trying to type A and typing Q and vice versa. German layout is QWERTZ, so you have to remember pressing Z when you wanted to type Y in English or upsilon in Greek and press Y when you wanted a Z in English or zeta in Greek. This was a major issue at a computer store that I worked. We had bought refurbished laptops from a German supplier and our Greek customers were confused by the QWERTZ layout. We had found small stickers with the English and Greek letters and stick to each key so the unfamiliar user would see exactly the key they wanted to use. We had even put a sticker to the CTRL, DEL, INSERT, PAUSE, PG UP, PG DN, keys to translate from the respective German word.

The Media creation tool will download the version appropriate for your system, so if you're running EN-GB it'll download/create that ISO

MCT contains only Home and Pro, if you want all versions you have to download the ISO directly from the website.

spapakons said:

MCT contains only Home and Pro, if you want all versions you have to download the ISO directly from the website.

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This might vary by language, but at least in the en-US downloads, the downloadable ISO contains


The MCT download is missing the bottom four.

For those wondering Windows 11 Pro for Workstations is the equivalent of Windows 7 Ultimate. Not all features are ever needed by the average user, but you wouldn't mind having them. At least I can use the trial version in a virtual machine and explore the features. It is a little faster too, thanks to better resource management that Home or Pro.

spapakons said:

For those wondering Windows 11 Pro for Workstations is the equivalent of Windows 7 Ultimate. Not all features are ever needed by the average user, but you wouldn't mind having them. At least I can use the trial version in a virtual machine and explore the features. It is a little faster too, thanks to better resource management that Home or Pro.

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What features are those exactly? Most of Workstation's extra features are:
Have you benchmarked that Workstation is faster than Pro on a normal desktop? Workstation is just a Pro optimized for very expensive, specialized HW. Without the HW, you're left with ReFS and the Ultimate power plan, which are both available in today's Pro.

The reason I found out about the different product language is because I wanted to do an in-place upgrade without losing my apps and personal files you must download the Windows installation media in the same display language as your currently installed. So, if the languages don't match, Windows may not allow you to keep your apps and personal files. If the Default system UI language : en-US, then you must download the English (United States) version because if you do the in-place upgrade with the English International instead the apps and personal files will not be carried through/ saved.

To find out which product language version you have search and open Command Prompt and Run as administrator and type this command
Dism /online /get-intl
and press Enter, The default system UI language will be displayed.

So, if I wanted to do an in-place upgrade on this pc I would have to download the Windows product language English (United States) even though my System Locale is en-GB!

Match the installed language, not your keyboard layout or regional settings!
The idea that you can download the wrong product language and then change the language in settings defeats the object of keeping your apps and personal files and it would be too late as Windows would have been installed!

I can relate. Once I wanted to upgrade an old Windows 10 system to the newer Windows 10 version but had downloaded the English International (UK English) ISO, while I was running US English, so the correct language was just "English". It wouldn't let me keep my files and apps, so I had to download the correct language ISO. Imagine my frustration since back then I didn't have a fast internet connection.

spapakons said:

I can relate. Once I wanted to upgrade an old Windows 10 system to the newer Windows 10 version but had downloaded the English International (UK English) ISO, while I was running US English, so the correct language was just "English". It wouldn't let me keep my files and apps, so I had to download the correct language ISO. Imagine my frustration since back then I didn't have a fast internet connection.

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It is an easy thing to fall into, that is why I have posted #27 above to make people aware of the pitfalls of downloading the ISO with the wrong product language!

Microsoft should use more specific names, such English UK or English, British and English US. Plain "English" and "English International" are very confusing. Most, like me, will assume "International" is the US version because that's the language computers started on and most foreigners use. Who uses British English apart from the Commonwealth? Everyone else uses US English or local dialects.

The US English says “English (United States).” I’ve not seen one that just says “English.”

Not even everyone in the US speaks US English. I grew up in the American South, and when I speak in a northern state, no one knows what the heck I’m saying.

y'all good peoples. <-- I learned that from my Southern friend.

spapakons said:

MCT contains only Home and Pro, if you want all versions you have to download the ISO directly from the website.

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True, I can get away with the MCT ISO as I use Pro EN-GB

pseymour said:

The US English says “English (United States).” I’ve not seen one that just says “English.”

Not even everyone in the US speaks US English. I grew up in the American South, and when I speak in a northern state, no one knows what the heck I’m saying.

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Not in Windows 11, they have fixed it now. Back in Windows 10 it said just English and English International. That was a few years ago, I haven't checked recently.