Win 11 issues...


maarkr

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so I upgraded from Win 10 Pro to Win 11 Pro several months ago. 21H2 22000.856.
I am having issues that I can't explain.
1. If a Windows update is available for installation, many programs won't start and other issues that make the computer unusable. This started in Win 10.
2. A few apps won't close in taskbar. I can close the app, but the icon remains in the taskbar and does not function. Reliability monitor shows the app as shut down unexpectedly. No evidence of it in Task Manager processes. Restarting computer restores taskbar to normal.
Having the icon in the taskbar may affect other icons... right clicking does nothing.
Also right clicking the Start menu does nothing. Also CTL-ALT-DEL does not bring up that screen with Task Mgr, etc.
3. Time and date sometimes wrong in taskbar. Tried some online recommendations but no help. Restarting resets to proper date/time.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-8700k
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z390 UD LGA1151
    Memory
    4x8 Corsair Vengeance
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVidia GTX 1050Ti
    Sound Card
    MOTU Ultralite mk4
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 SSD NVme 1Tb
    other drives
    PSU
    Corsair 750w
You can also perform in-place upgrade of Windows 11. In-place upgrade is to use to replace the current operating system files on your computer. Unlike a clean installation of Windows, you can start a Windows in-place upgrade when your OS is still running. And an in-place upgrade can keep your files, settings, & apps during the upgrade process. You can perform a Windows 11 in-place upgrade is to use the Windows 11 Media Creation Tool. Make sure to select Upgrade this PC now and click Next. Follow the on-screen guide to perform a Windows 11 in-place upgrade.

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    Erica6
    Memory
    Micron Technology DDR4-3200 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC671
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster U28E590
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG MZVLQ1T0HALB-000H1
@FreeBooter , will the in-place repair/upgrade work using the MCT? Pretty sure MS gives you build 22000.318 with the MCT. From the tutorial:

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I think it might work if in step 10 he chooses to Download updates.

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@Brink , will it work using the MCT and choosing to download updates?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3447
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-12700F
    Motherboard
    ASUS TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws S5 Series 64GB (2 x 32GB) DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 3050 XC Black Gaming
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster AE-5 Plus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming 27" 2K HDR Gaming
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 Pro 1TB NVMe (Win 11)
    SK hynix P41 500GB NVMe (Win 10)
    SK hynix P41 2TB NVMe (x3)
    Crucial P3 Plus 4TB
    PSU
    Corsair RM850x Shift
    Case
    Antec Dark Phantom DP502 FLUX
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12A chromax.black + 7 Phantek T-30's
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK 320
    Mouse
    Razer Basilisk V3
    Internet Speed
    350Mbs
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Winows Security
    Other Info
    Windows 10 22H2 19045.4291
    On System One
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3447
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-11700F
    Motherboard
    Asus TUF Gaming Z590 Plus WiFi
    Memory
    64 GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2060 KO Ultra Gaming
    Sound Card
    SoundBlaster X-Fi Titanium
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung F27T350
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB
    Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2TB
    Samsung 870 EVO 500GB SSD
    PSU
    Corsair HX750
    Case
    Cougar MX330-G Window
    Cooling
    Hyper 212 EVO
    Internet Speed
    350Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
Hello Scott, :-)

Yes, it should normally, but better to use the exact same version and build if able to make sure it will keep everything.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom self build
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING (11GB GDDR5X)
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G75 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3 wall mounted
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1 Gbps Download and 35 Mbps Upload
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender and Malwarebytes Premium
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Spectre x360 2in1 14-eu0098nr (2024)
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 7 155H 4.8 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB LPDDR5x-7467 MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Integrated Intel Arc
    Sound Card
    Poly Studio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" 2.8K OLED multitouch
    Screen Resolution
    2880 x 1800
    Hard Drives
    2 TB PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD
    Internet Speed
    Intel Wi-Fi 7 BE200 (2x2) and Bluetooth 5.4
    Browser
    Chrome and Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender and Malwarebytes Premium
I am having a similar issue with apps minimized to the task bar. My experience differs a little from other descriptions. I very seldom shut down my computer. I keep projects going for days, weeks. So, I will keep apps (especially Edge and Chrome and folders) minimized in the task bar.

I noticed, a few months after I had upgraded to Windows 11, that occasionally the thumbnail (when you hover over the minimized app's icon) would only show the title bar and when I would click the icon to restore the app to the desktop, I would see the animation (of the app moving from the task bar) go up to the upper left corner of the desktop and disappear.

Clicking the task tray icon again would generate the animation of the app moving from the upper right corner to the tray again. The dimensions of the moving thumbnail indicated a window minimized to the min-width, min-height parameters. I have seen only one YouTube video that addressed this problem and the author suggested 1. restart the windows explorer from the task manager, or 2. right click the icon and select Restore (which I have never seen as an option)

How to Fix Window Not Minimize Maximize in Windows 11 - Bing video

What I was doing was close the app and then open it again. Kind of a bummer with the browsers because you lose all your opened tabs. But then I noticed, recently, that after I clicked the task bar icon, and the animation played showing the app moving to the upper left corner and then disappearing, that a small vertical line would show up on the very right hand side of the task bar, 15-20 pixels from the right, and when I click on that vertical line, the app would suddenly appear, minimized, in the upper left corner. Then I would have to resize them with the mouse. An interesting feature to say the least.

But normal behavior for a window, is that the x, y, width and height of the window are written to the registry when it is minimized to the task tray and recalled when restored. That [the registry write] appears to be interrupted from time to time and when you go to restore the app, there is no location and size information for the windows explorer tries it's best to oblige your request.

I apologize for rambling on, but I was wondering if anyone else had seen the same behavior.

Thanks
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11, 64 bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    hp Envy
    CPU
    i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GEFORCE
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP 27er
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    boot drive - 1TB SSD Samsung 860EVO
    Case
    Mini tower
    Cooling
    Air
    Internet Speed
    Gigabit fiber provider - wireless router - speed test shows, 95 Mb download, 62 Mbs upload
    Browser
    Edge, Chrome
    Antivirus
    Norton
Well, after looking at MANY recommendations, I realized my issue is not limited to a very few. The idea of reloading the OS is scary to me, even tho I make regular image backups of my boot drive.
I found one solution that has really helped, so far... as a matter of fact I have not had these issues since I changed it about a week ago. If you to to Personalization>Start, there is an option in the list titled "Show recently opened items in Start, Jump Lists, and File Explorer." It was listed in a site as a possible option to check among many others. By default, it is ON. Switching it to OFF has stopped the time freeze and apps not closing in taskbar behavior. I hope this is a long-term fix, and hope it works for others.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-8700k
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z390 UD LGA1151
    Memory
    4x8 Corsair Vengeance
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVidia GTX 1050Ti
    Sound Card
    MOTU Ultralite mk4
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 SSD NVme 1Tb
    other drives
    PSU
    Corsair 750w
Thanks, I have changed the setting. Let's see if it works. It [the behavior] was never a gamechanger, just a slightly annoying quirk.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11, 64 bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    hp Envy
    CPU
    i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GEFORCE
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP 27er
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    boot drive - 1TB SSD Samsung 860EVO
    Case
    Mini tower
    Cooling
    Air
    Internet Speed
    Gigabit fiber provider - wireless router - speed test shows, 95 Mb download, 62 Mbs upload
    Browser
    Edge, Chrome
    Antivirus
    Norton
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