Win11 24H2 Installed, now no network sharing

your topic was very help full, but due to the increased windows security in 24H2 network mediaplayers and even nas don't
automatically show up anymore.
But fortunately users are able to access data by setting up a network connection.

Your topic was hightly apopreciated.

lafargeotte said:

Hi Guys,

I upgraded to 24H2 Pro on my desktop and one laptop.
Two laptops still on 23H2 Pro.

The laptops on 23H2 still have network sharing seeing all PCs and able to access the shared folders.
The 24H2 PCs see the other PCs, but have no access to sharing, with error message 'Network Path Not Found'.

Network settings on all 4 PCs are the same, although SMB1 was not installed on the 24H2 machines!

I went to the Tutorial and tried the suggestions there, but no luck.

There must be something obvious, but I cannot see what it is.

Any suggestions please?

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I have this problem on my PC's after upgrading to 24H2. And what fixed it for me was going into settings and putting that setting on off. I have 4 computers I did it to everyone rebooted and now it works on all of them. All my computers had passwords but it kept telling me it was incorrect. Not anymore.

ogger151 said:

I have this problem on my PC's after upgrading to 24H2. And what fixed it for me was going into settings and putting that setting on off. I have 4 computers I did it to everyone rebooted and now it works on all of them. All my computers had passwords but it kept telling me it was incorrect. Not anymore.

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My setting is and has always been that.

I still have the problem, and the LAN is a mix of Windows versions, W10 Pro and W11 Home 24H2.

NET VIEW only works when looking at individual machine sharenames. Oh, my Router has a connected USB Shared external drive attached.

Net View on my PC (W11 24H2) shows this:

PS C:\> net view
System error 6118 has occurred.

The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available

However using the ShareName of the router I can see this:

PS C:\> net view \\tp-share
Shared resources at \\tp-share


Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
G Disk
The command completed successfully.

So it CAN partially work. As new MS Updates come in, the NET VIEW error has changed. Still, the NET VIEW command had be 'deprecated' by MS?

Check here, Redirecting and from it this, "This is due to the fact that HTTP is deprecated in Win11.", from a "Microsoft Community Support Specialist".

Note the timestamp on this, just last month, so it is recent.

IrvSp said:

"This is due to the fact that HTTP is deprecated in Win11.", from a "Microsoft Community Support Specialist".

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I hope that's a typo, because it's nonsense. net view uses SMB, not HTTP. Also, HTTP is not deprecated.

Wolfzz said:

OK with 24H2 Pro 26100.1742 I had this problem.
My Windows 10 Pro could access Windows 11 24H2 through my network, however Windows 11 24H2 could not access my Windows 10 Pro or any earlier versions of Windows 11 Pro Computers this only happened since I went to 24H2.
To fix this issue I did both of these changes in Local Group Policy Editor. And Now all is happy including me. I hope this helps.

Computer Configuration, Windows Settings, Security Settings, Local Policies, Security Options
Double click on Microsoft Network Client: Digitally sign communications (always)
Double click on Microsoft Network Client: Digitally sign communications (if server agrees)
Set both of these to "Disabled"
Click on OK.

Computer Configuration, Administrative Templates, Network, Lanman Workstation
Double click on "Enable Insecure Guest Logons"
Set this to "Enabled"
Click on OK.

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Yes! This worked. I didn't know how to get to these settings until I watch this video.

Wolfzz said:

OK with 24H2 Pro 26100.1742 I had this problem.
My Windows 10 Pro could access Windows 11 24H2 through my network, however Windows 11 24H2 could not access my Windows 10 Pro or any earlier versions of Windows 11 Pro Computers this only happened since I went to 24H2.
To fix this issue I did both of these changes in Local Group Policy Editor. And Now all is happy including me. I hope this helps.

Computer Configuration, Windows Settings, Security Settings, Local Policies, Security Options
Double click on Microsoft Network Client: Digitally sign communications (always)
Double click on Microsoft Network Client: Digitally sign communications (if server agrees)
Set both of these to "Disabled"
Click on OK.

Computer Configuration, Administrative Templates, Network, Lanman Workstation
Double click on "Enable Insecure Guest Logons"
Set this to "Enabled"
Click on OK.

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Yes this works.

As much as this may work, there are (as far as I understand it) possible security setbacks. Enabling this feature allows unauthenticated access to network shares, potentially exposing your system to various risks.
Here’s a couple of things that apparently, you may need to possibly be aware of:

• Increased Vulnerability to Attacks:
  Enabling insecure guest logons allows attackers to deceive users into connecting to malicious servers without prompting for credentials. This could lead to credential theft, relay attacks, and the execution of malicious code like ransomware.
  
  
• Loss of Security Features:
  Guest logons bypass standard security measures like signing and encryption, making your system more vulnerable to man-in-the-middle attacks or malicious server scenarios.
  
  
• Potential for Data Compromise:
  An attacker could use insecure guest logons to access and steal sensitive data stored on network shares.
  
  
• Disabling SMB Signing:
  In Windows 11 24H2, SMB signing is enabled by default, which enhances security by preventing tampering and relay attacks. Disabling this feature or enabling insecure guest logons can negate these security benefits.
  
  
• Impact on Third-Party NAS and Routers:
  Insecure guest logons can cause issues with connecting to third-party NAS or routers that rely on this method for access, according to some sources.
  

I can’t confirm anything above, because I haven’t nor would I probably ever enable insecure guest logons

dallascowboy23 said:

Yes this works.

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Nope, at least not on my W11 24H2 Home. No GPEDIT, but you can get the same 'setting' via REGEDIT:

Windows 11 24H2 and Insecure Guest Logins settings - Microsoft Q&A

That page has the REGEDIT commands to do the same function. It is under "2. Enable Insecure Guest Logins via Registry Editor:"

I did that long ago:



Still doesn't work. All other settings mentioned match.

I've seen a lot of web pages with the same problem, most are not solved, and some do have people that said it fixed it for them in those pages, but not for everyone. I had the problem when on a mixed W10/W11 LAN, and now on a W11 only LAN, other than the network share of an External USB drive on the LAN. Possibly why I'm having a problem but even with it disconnected I still have the problem. Even NET VIEW doesn't work.

Even NET VIEW doesn't work, and I am the ONLY PC on the LAN.

However, using the \\SHARE-NAME does work:

=======================
C:\>net view \\irvxps8940
Shared resources at \\irvxps8940

Irv's XPS8940
Share name Type Used as Comment
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
C Disk
K Disk
L Disk
Users Disk
The command completed successfully.

C:\>net view \\tp-share
Shared resources at \\tp-share

Share name Type Used as Comment
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
G Disk
The command completed successfully.
=======================

TP-Share is the External USB Drive on the router.

So if that works, and I can access (read/write) to all of the above, then it isn't specifically a LAN problems but W11 has some other problem. Like I said, others still have the same issue.

Glad it worked for you.

@IrvSp Is there a reason you're hung up on net view? It really hasn't been a thing since Windows 8 era (yes I know the command still exists), and it relies on the Computer Browser service, which isn't typically even installed anymore.

antspants said:

As much as this may work, there are (as far as I understand it) possible security setbacks. Enabling this feature allows unauthenticated access to network shares, potentially exposing your system to various risks.
Here’s a couple of things that apparently, you may need to possibly be aware of:

• Increased Vulnerability to Attacks:
  Enabling insecure guest logons allows attackers to deceive users into connecting to malicious servers without prompting for credentials. This could lead to credential theft, relay attacks, and the execution of malicious code like ransomware.
  
  
• Loss of Security Features:
  Guest logons bypass standard security measures like signing and encryption, making your system more vulnerable to man-in-the-middle attacks or malicious server scenarios.
  
  
• Potential for Data Compromise:
  An attacker could use insecure guest logons to access and steal sensitive data stored on network shares.
  
  
• Disabling SMB Signing:
  In Windows 11 24H2, SMB signing is enabled by default, which enhances security by preventing tampering and relay attacks. Disabling this feature or enabling insecure guest logons can negate these security benefits.
  
  
• Impact on Third-Party NAS and Routers:
  Insecure guest logons can cause issues with connecting to third-party NAS or routers that rely on this method for access, according to some sources.

I can’t confirm anything above, because I haven’t nor would I probably ever enable insecure guest logons

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I use the lazy man's approach. I keep PCs running on Windows 10, 8.1, and Win 7 and network those for fun and games. These networks are used mainly for gaming, streaming, and entertainment. For business, critical data, and more sensitive operations such as financial transactions, correspondence with government agencies, medical and insurance etc. I use a legitimate, compliant OS, with reliable security software that provides me end-to-end encryption and two factor authentication. I'm typing this on Windows 10. I'm hardly worried about getting hacked, but networking is still password protected. It works for me.

The drawback to this is that I have many PCs in my home. Being a bit of a geek that doesn't bother me much. Fortunately it doesn't bother my beloved and my girls wouldn't have it any other way. In fact, they're trying to get me to put extra PCs in their bed rooms. (As if their laptops and tablets weren't enough.) IMO If enough people found uses for their older PCs our land fills would be a whole lot happier. If I want to transfer data from one PC to my more secured devices I use a USB flash drive. Even lazy people can benefit from a little physical exercise. I don't have to walk far.

pseymour said:

@IrvSp Is there a reason you're hung up on net view? It really hasn't been a thing since Windows 8 era (yes I know the command still exists), and it relies on the Computer Browser service, which isn't typically even installed anymore.

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Not hung up, it IS not working, and it did before. I'm a 'DOS' guy from way back. I'll use NET USE even.

My problem is the 'suggested' way to use the LAN is via the NETWORK choice on the left side in Windows Explorer, but that DOES not show me all the LAN PC's or my Router's External USB drive. It USED to, the same problem many others have.

It has been over a year since it did.

Oddly enough,, if I open Windows Explorer to the Network immediately after booting, my PC does appear on it. I can open it and see my drives. However, maybe 4 minutes later if I did that, my PC doesn't show, but my HP Printer/Scanner is on the LAN?

I've turned off the Printer and rebooted and it still goes away shortly after boot.

Tried Safe Mode with Networking and it still happens?

I don't know why this would be?

I think it isn't the missing Master Browser, but there is a Service called Computer Browser, and it is set to Automatic, but it is a Trigger Start as well.

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Maintains an updated list of computers on the network and supplies this list to computers designated as browsers. If this service is stopped, this list will not be updated or maintained. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.
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This I think is part of the problem, as NET VIEW says usually (Error 6118) that it can't find the list. It is enabled by enabling SMB1 and might replace the Master Browser?

net view does still work on Windows 10 rather easily, if you enable some older technologies. I'm not sure it's worth enabling those insecure things just to get output from an old command. Getting it to work requires more effort in Windows 11.



But yeah, you should be using network discovery to find devices on a modern Windows network and not relying on older versions of SMB and NetBIOS. If some devices do not show, that can be fixed usually. It is generally true that a given Windows 11 device does not show in its own Network node in File Explorer, and I have an unproven theory as to why that is, but I'm not quite sure why one would need the local PC to show in Network anyway. You're already on the local PC.

pseymour said:

net view does still work on Windows 10 rather easily, if you enable some older technologies. I'm not sure it's worth enabling those insecure things just to get output from an old command. Getting it to work requires more effort in Windows 11.

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But yeah, you should be using network discovery to find devices on a modern Windows network and not relying on older versions of SMB and NetBIOS. If some devices do not show, that can be fixed usually. It is generally true that a given Windows 11 device does not show in its own Network node in File Explorer, and I have an unproven theory as to why that is, but I'm not quite sure why one would need the local PC to show in Network anyway. You're already on the local PC.

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Yeah, but I'm on W11, and the 2 PC's are both on it, 24H2.

Results from your Net View command:

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C:\>net view && date /t
System error 6118 has occurred.

The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available
====================

Astonishingly, what IS working is Windows Explorer set to NETWORK, at least partiallly:



First time I've seen that happen too? Usually only see the Tower. I can open both and access files (read/write).

However, not the same when I use my preferred Windows Explorer replacement, Explorer++:



It only sees the Tower???

Also, BOTH do not show the Router's USB drive, but using NET VIEW I can see it:

==============
C:\>net view \\tp-share
Shared resources at \\tp-share


Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
G Disk
The command completed successfully.
=================

That uses SAMBA to share the drive.

However, programs like VLC has no problems finding the Router due to it being a Video Server:



To me, all this tells me it is a 'programming' problem as some can access items, others can not.

So, that leaves the problem being mine at so a Setting, or MS.

I've tried every posted solution and none works for me.

As I mention above in a post, MY PC, IRVXPS8940 randomly will disappear from Windows File Explorer, unknown why?

Well there isn't much information about how your devices are configured, despite all these posts on the same topic. You kind of just keep saying it doesn't work.

What configuration do you need?

Win11 Home, both PC's. On Win 11 just replaced a Win 10 Pro and it didn't work there either?

What else in terms of h/w configuration do you need?

Router, a Deco TP-Link BE65 V2... all PC's are WiFi7 with Intel BE200 M..2 Adapters. Before the W10 was AC wifi speed.

H/W should not matter, settings with the OS, of course. There are MANY, but I've tried all that have ever been posted. Of course one of the problems was about a year ago it was all working. Then came MS 23H1 or 2 and it messed up, and has not worked (NET VIEW) since then.

Even swapped out the Router to 2 different models, removed the Router USB drive, doesn't work. But our iPad's that access the Router's USB drive for pictures and vidoe's have no problem doing that.

Focus on the problem, and what could be 'changes' to make it work. Either a NETWORK setting or OS feature/setting/bug.