Windows 11 available on October 5


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Today, we are thrilled to announce Windows 11 will start to become available on October 5, 2021. On this day, the free upgrade to Windows 11 will begin rolling out to eligible Windows 10 PCs and PCs that come pre-loaded with Windows 11 will start to become available for purchase. A new Windows experience, Windows 11 is designed to bring you closer to what you love.

As the PC continues to play a more central role in our lives than ever before — Windows 11 is ready to empower your productivity and inspire your creativity.

Here are 11 highlights of this release​


1. The new design and sounds are modern, fresh, clean and beautiful, bringing you a sense of calm and ease.

2. With Start, we’ve put you and your content at the center. Start utilizes the power of the cloud and Microsoft 365 to show you your recent files no matter what device you were viewing them on.

3. Snap Layouts, Snap Groups and Desktops provide an even more powerful way to multitask and optimize your screen real estate.

4. Chat from Microsoft Teams integrated into the taskbar provides a faster way to connect to the people you care about.

5. Widgets, a new personalized feed powered by AI, provides a faster way to access the information you care about, and with Microsoft Edge’s world class performance, speed and productivity features you can get more done on the web.

6. Windows 11 delivers the best Windows ever for gaming and unlocks the full potential of your system’s hardware with technology like DirectX12 Ultimate, DirectStorage and Auto HDR. With Xbox Game Pass for PC or Ultimate you get access to over 100 high-quality PC games to play on Windows 11 for one low monthly price. (Xbox Game Pass sold separately.)


7. Windows 11 comes with a new Microsoft Store rebuilt with an all-new design making it easier to search and discover your favorite apps, games, shows, and movies in one trusted location. We look forward to continuing our journey to bring Android apps to Windows 11 and the Microsoft Store through our collaboration with Amazon and Intel; this will start with a preview for Windows Insiders over the coming months.

8. Windows 11 is the most inclusively designed version of Windows with new accessibility improvements that were built for and by people with disabilities.

9. Windows 11 unlocks new opportunities for developers and creators. We are opening the Store to allow more developers and independent software vendors (ISVs) to bring their apps to the Store, improving native and web app development with new developer tools, and making it easier for you to refresh the look and feel across all our app designs and experiences.

10. Windows 11 is optimized for speed, efficiency and improved experiences with touch, digital pen and voice input.

11. Windows 11 is the operating system for hybrid work, delivering new experiences that work how you work, are secure by design, and easy and familiar for IT to deploy and manage. Businesses can also test Windows 11 in preview today in Azure Virtual Desktop, or at general availability by experiencing Windows 11 in the new Windows 365.

Thank you to the Windows Insider Community​


The Windows Insider community has been an invaluable community in helping us get to where we are today. Since the first Insider Preview Build was released in June, the engagement and feedback has been unprecedented. The team has also enjoyed sharing more behind the scenes stories on the development of Windows 11 in a new series we launched in June, Inside Windows 11. We sincerely appreciate the energy and enthusiasm from this community.

Rolling out the free upgrade to Windows 11 in a phased and measured approach​


The free upgrade to Windows 11 starts on October 5 and will be phased and measured with a focus on quality. Following the tremendous learnings from Windows 10, we want to make sure we’re providing you with the best possible experience. That means new eligible devices will be offered the upgrade first. The upgrade will then roll out over time to in-market devices based on intelligence models that consider hardware eligibility, reliability metrics, age of device and other factors that impact the upgrade experience. We expect all eligible devices to be offered the free upgrade to Windows 11 by mid-2022. If you have a Windows 10 PC that’s eligible for the upgrade, Windows Update will let you know when it’s available. You can also check to see if Windows 11 is ready for your device by going to Settings > Windows Update and select Check for updates*.

Ready to elevate to 11? There’s never been a better time to purchase a new PC​


October 5 is right around the corner — and there are a few things you can do to get ready for Windows 11. First, if you’re in need of a new PC now — don’t wait. You can get all the power and performance of a new Windows 10 PC and upgrade to Windows 11 for free after the rollout begins on October 5**.

We’ve worked closely with our OEM and retail partners to bring you powerful Windows 10 PCs today, that will take you into the future with Windows 11. Here are a few to check out.

Acer Swift 5


The Acer Swift 5 (SF514-55) ultrathin-and-light notebook marries an uber-stylish design with the latest performance technology. Powered by 11th Gen Intel Core i5 and Intel Core i7 processors and verified to meet the requirements of an Intel Evo platform, the Swift 5 has the power and performance to seamlessly run multiple applications and provides up to 17 hours of battery life for all-day productivity. The touchscreen display is covered with a layer of Antimicrobial Corning Gorilla Glass, and you have the option to further include an antimicrobial solution on the touchpad, keyboard and all covers of the device. Click the link above for more details on the Acer website.

Acer Swift X


The new Acer Swift X (SFX14-41G) notebook represents a new segment within the Swift portfolio, the first of its series to come powered with discrete graphics, all at 3.06 pounds. Up to a NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Ti Laptop GPU, combined with up to an AMD Ryzen 7 5800U Mobile Processor and 16 GB of RAM offers creative professionals such as video editors or photographers plenty of power. True to the Swift family, all this hardware has been fitted into a metal chassis 0.7 in thin. Click the link above for more details on the Acer website.

Zenbook Flip 13 OLED UX363


Asus Zenbook Flip 13 OLED UX363 has an all-new design that combines ultimate portability with supreme versatility. Its NanoEdge FHD OLED display and 360-degree ErgoLift hinge make extra compact, and the super-slim 13.9 mm chassis houses a wide range of I/O ports for easy connectivity. Its Intel Core processor gives effortless performance for on-the-go productivity and visual creativity.

Zenbook 14 UX425


Asus Zenbook 14 UX425 has an all-new design that’s just 13.9mm slim. It has a four-sided NanoEdge display with a 90% screen-to-body ratio for immersive visuals, and there’s a complete set of full I/O ports. The latest 11th Gen Intel Core i7 processor and all-new Intel Iris Xe graphics makes it a perfect portable companion.

Alienware x15


Each of Dell Alienware’s X-Series laptops include Alienware Cryo-tech cooling technology and this generation features a patent-pending Quad Fan design engineered to provide the highest levels of gaming performance. Both the Alienware x15 and Alienware x17 are made of premium materials, including magnesium alloy and CNC-machined aluminum designed for structural rigidity, and are finished with a carefully formulated stain-resistant paint formula. Built for marathon gaming sessions, these laptops feature HyperEfficient voltage regulation technology which is designed to allow the system to perform at the highest levels for hours of gameplay.

Dell XPS 13


The Dell XPS 13 is crafted using authentic premium materials, precision cut to achieve a flawless finish in a durable, lightweight design. Designed to create the perfect affinity between aesthetics and functional purpose, it delivers powerful performance and a larger 4-sided InfinityEdge display.

HP ENVY x360 15


If you’re looking for something extra special, the HP Spectre x360 14 features cutting edge 2-in-1 design and superb performance with the latest Intel Core processors along with all-day battery life. If you’re a creator looking for a device that is as flexible as your workflow, the HP ENVY x360 15 is a mobile creative powerhouse, featuring AMD Ryzen or Intel Core processors, and Wi-Fi 6 and Bluetooth 5 for fast connectivity. The Spectre x360 is available at Best Buy and HP.com; the ENVY x360 15 is available at select retailers including Best Buy, Costco, Walmart and HP.com.

2-in-1 Lenovo Yoga 7


Meet the versatile 2-in-1 Lenovo Yoga 7 convertible series, available in 14-inch sizes and designed with rounded edges to feel more comfortable in your hands. Immerse yourself in a vibrant Full HD IPS touchscreen display with your choice of either 11th Gen Intel Core or AMD Ryzen 5000 Series mobile processors plus integrated graphics. Available in Slate Grey hue, go anywhere with a 71WHr battery, a metal chassis that impresses from every angle and thoughtful details such as a webcam privacy shutter. Click the link above for more details on the Lenovo website.

Lenovo Yoga Slim 7i Pro


Master multitasking with the thin and light Lenovo Yoga Slim 7i Pro series, offering consumers a choice of an LCD or super-vibrant OLED display for greater immersion. Available in a 14-inch size and Light Silver hue, the laptop features either 11th Gen Intel Core or AMD Ryzen 5000 Series mobile processors – both models offer optional NVIDIA GeForce MX450 graphics to boost your content creation. Enjoy the convenience of Windows Hello and an IR camera with a raised notch for easier opening, plus a backlit keyboard. Click the link above for more details on the Lenovo website.

Samsung Galaxy Book Pro and Galaxy Book Pro 360


Samsung Galaxy Book Pro and Galaxy Book Pro 360 reshape the PC for mobile-first consumers by bringing together next-generation connectivity, ultra-portable design and elevated performance. Equipped with 11th Gen Intel Core processor, Intel Iris Xe graphics, and AMOLED display within super-thin and light body for increased mobility, the Galaxy Book Pro series let you maximize productivity, enjoy immersive entertainment and unleash creativity. With complete Samsung Galaxy ecosystem integration, the Galaxy Book Pro series is now the ultimate link between your devices, fully connecting your digital world. The Galaxy Book Pro and Galaxy Book Pro 360 are available in 13-inch and 15-inch models with color options ranging from Mystic Navy, Mystic Silver and Mystic Bronze for Galaxy Book Pro 360 and Mystic Blue, Mystic Silver and Mystic Pink Gold for Galaxy Book Pro.

Surface Pro 7


Surface Pro 7 is ultra-light and versatile. Whether at your desk, on the couch, or in the yard, get more done your way with the best-selling Surface 2-in-1 that features a laptop-class Intel Core processor, all day battery life, HD cameras and a stunning 12.3-inch PixelSense touchscreen display. It transforms from tablet to laptop with pen and touch input, a built-in Kickstand, an optional removable Type Cover, and it easily connects to multiple monitors. Click the link above to learn more about Surface Pro 7.

Surface Laptop 4


Surface Laptop 4 offers style and speed. Do it all with the perfect balance of sleek design, speed, immersive audio and significantly longer battery life than before. Stand out on HD video calls backed by Studio Mics. Capture ideas and use your favorite Microsoft 365 applications on the vibrant PixelSense touchscreen display in 13.5-inch or 15-inch models. Choose between 11th Gen Intel Core processors or AMD Ryzen Mobile Processors with Radeon Graphics Microsoft Surface Edition. Click the link above to learn more about Surface Laptop 4, including available color finishes and material options.

We’ll be relaunching the PC Health Check app soon, so you can check to see if your current PC will be eligible to upgrade. In the meantime, you can learn more about Windows 11 minimum system requirements here.

If you’re preparing for the upgrade and you’re not already using OneDrive, check it out. It’s a simple way to help keep your files secure and make it easier to transition through the upgrade or to a new device.

For organizations that are managed by IT, today we announced new capabilities coming in Microsoft Endpoint Manager to help you to assess your readiness for Windows 11 and hybrid work at scale. You can learn more in the Microsoft Endpoint Manager Tech Community blog.

For customers who are using a PC that won’t upgrade, and who aren’t ready to transition to a new device, Windows 10 is the right choice. We will support Windows 10 through October 14, 2025 and we recently announced that the next feature update to Windows 10 is coming later this year. Whatever you decide, we are committed to supporting you and offering choice in your computing journey.

The first version of a new era of Windows ​


As Panos shared in June, Windows is more than an operating system; it’s where we connect with people, it’s where we learn, work and play. We can’t wait to see what Windows 11 empowers you to do and create.

*Note, certain features require specific hardware; see our Windows 11 specifications page for more information.

**The Windows 11 upgrade will start to be delivered to qualifying devices beginning on October 5, 2021 into 2022. Timing varies by device.
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sgage said:
Exactly - it makes no sense whatsoever. It may be that you would be able download updates and apply them, but you won't get them from WU. Maybe it was one of those slip-ups like "Windows 10 is the last Windows".

I will get the release version on this machine, take it off the Insiders bus, and see what happens on Patch Tuesday. If they're not going to give me updates that way, I am just going to bag Win11 until my next computer. I'm not going to play games.
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I kind of think that MS didn't make that statement officially. It was another off the cuff comment. I'm sure some will find ways around it but why? Yes.. because they can but it doesn't really make sense with 10 being around for 4 more years.

My plan is to do a clean instillation of 11 on the 8th or 9th of Oct. Python is coming out with a new major version on the 8th and I can reinstall that and the OS at the same time,, win/win. I can't wait for the new version of Python.. they added a new feature I can make a lot of use of.
 

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    Windows 11 Home(Beta) - 23H2 - 22635.3566
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    Banana Junior 5600- G Series
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    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
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    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
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    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
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    Viotek 32", 28" ASUS VP28U
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    Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
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    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
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    Zalman i3 NEO
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    ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
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    Corsair
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    Amazon Generic with Cord
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    Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
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    Firefox and Edge
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    MS - Defender
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cytherian said:
What really upset me is the game that Microsoft is playing. From what I've seen so far, the specification demands for Windows 11 will end up making many Windows 10 capable laptops obsolete. WHY? Well of course, this is Microsoft's game of inciting more hardware purchases. Right? Do they have relationships in the hardware world where this was a promise made so that Windows 11 would be the favored OS to include?

Unreal. At this point in time, the TOOL of the computer OS is so well honed & workable, that there's really not any Herculean upgrades available. What more can they do? Move menu items around again? Windows 10 is a wonderful achievement. I've been using windows since 3.1.1... Believe me, having gone through 95, 98, 2000, XP, 7, 8, 8.1 and now 10... I'm VERY happy with how 10 works.

Now of course, Windows 11 has some new feature offerings that may be attractive, but at what price? Apparently Microsoft didn't fully learn from Linux, that you can do more with less by being more optimal & efficient. I was able to upgrade my Windows 8.1 laptop to Windows 10 with ease. A little more RAM and an SSD fixed some unpleasant lag. Minor inconvenience. But given the expertise of Windows software engineers, you'd expect that Windows 11 would be even more efficient and so any Windows 10 laptop could upgrade to it. And sure, if they have options that require much greater resources, make that an optional component. So you can configure Windows 11 to run more lean, or more rich if you have sufficient hardware.

I hope that enough feedback results in something done. I really don't want to be forced to upgrade my hardware when it's totally unnecessary by the nature of how I tax my laptop resources. Unless of course, Microsoft promises to support Windows 10 with security updates for another 5~8 years... where by then, I'd probably need to upgrade my laptop simply because the casing is worn out or the resolution and CPU power of newer laptops is so insanely ahead of my 6 year old laptop that I'd be compelled to upgrade.
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Convenience is nice, but without efficiency it's not enough. Even optimum efficiency isn't enough. There's a huge thing called security that must go hand-in-hand with convenience and efficiency. Not only does Windows need convenience, efficiency, and security, so does the hardware Windows runs on.

Let's take the hardware (your PC). Incorporated into that PC is a motherboard, central processing unit (CPU), random access memory (RAM), storage (hard drives & solid state drives). Over the years Intel and AMD have consistently upgraded the CPU to be faster and more secure. Motherboard OEMs have upgraded for more security within their product. One such upgrade is TPM (Trusted Platform Module) from 1.3 to 2.0. Then there's Secure Boot, which makes sure a device boots using only software that is trusted by the Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM). You get the idea. . .

When hackers manage to hack into an operating system, it's pretty embarrassing, whether it be Apple, Microsoft, or any of a number of Linux distributions. And it plays havoc with those who get chosen to be the victim of said hack. So much so that there's a chance the victim will change his/her operating system. None of the above want to see this happen; thus, each company endeavors to secure its OS to the max. Then there's the hardware aspect to be reckoned with. . .

Yep, you guessed it. Everyone screams bloody murder at Microsoft, Apple, Linux distros, etc. for leaving openings for the hackers to get in. They hardly ever think in terms of old technology being the culprit that let the hackers in. It's just too easy to blame the OS manufacturer for their problems.

Ever heard the expression: It takes a village? Well, that's exactly what it takes.

Hardware: Each original equipment manufacturer (OEM) must keep up with and install the latest security measures in their BIOS. They must use the latest and most secure CPU with its built-in security. Secure Boot must be available. And then there's TPM.

OS: Microsoft must build each update to Windows to take advantage of the latest hardware security measures as well as build the most secure operating system possible.

Why? Because both the OEM and Microsoft (and others) have an obligation, in fact, a willingness, to give us the most secure computer possible.

As we've been told, Windows 10 will be supported until October 2025. That's four more years. If you have a computer that will support Windows 11, but don't want to upgrade, you're probably golden!

If you wish to run Windows 11 and have a computer that will support it, be grateful. You have the latest and greatest that both the OEM and Microsoft can give you.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 23H2 22631.2861
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    PC/Desktop
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    HP Envy TE01-1xxx
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    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz
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    16.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1463MHz (21-21-21-47)
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    16384 MBytes
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    Intel UHD Graphics 630
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    Realtek High Definition Audio
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    Monitor 1 - Acer 27" Monitor 2 - Acer 27"
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    1920 x 1080
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    WDC PC SN530 SDBPNPZ-512G-1006 (SSD)
    Seagate ST1000DM003-1SB102
    Seagate BUP Slim SCSI Disk Device (SSD)
    PSU
    HP
    Case
    HP
    Cooling
    Standard
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wave K350
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    Logitech M705
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    500 mbps
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    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
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    That's all Folks!
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    HP
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    Intel Core i7 (10th gen) 10700
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    Intel
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    16 GB
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    Intel UHD Graphics 630
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    Built-in
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    Acer 27" & Samsung 24"
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    1920 x
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    SSD (512 GB)
    HDD (1 TB)
    Seagate
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    Intel i7 10th Generation
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    HP
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    HP/Intel?
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    Logitech M705
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wave K350
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    50 mbps
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    Firefox 90.2
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    Windows Defender
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    Headphone/Microphone Combo
    SuperSpeed USB Type-A (4 on front)
    HP 3-in-One Card Readr
    SuperSpeed USB Type-C
    DVD Writer
sgage said:
MS actually announced that you would be able to clean install from an iso, but not get any subsequent updates. Makes no sense to me, but that's what was said in some press release or other - it was all over the tech media a month ago. Maybe they've walked it back since then. But if WU updates are not going to be available to non-compliant machines, I'm just not interested. Just as soon enjoy Win10 for 4 more years :)
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MS will say one thing today and then the next day say something else. All of my computers including my wife's laptop meet the requirements so it won't effect us. I will be interested to see if a clean install will work on the official release.
 

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System One System Two

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    Windows 11 Canary Channel
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    PC/Desktop
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    PowerSpec B746
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    Intel Core i7-10700K
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    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
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    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
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    Realtek Audio
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    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
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    1920 x 1080
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    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
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    750 Watts (62.5A)
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    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
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    Logitech K270
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    Logitech M185
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    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
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    ESET Internet Security
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    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
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    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
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    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
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    Logitek M185
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    Logitek K270
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    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home(Beta) - 23H2 - 22635.3566
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    Banana Junior 5600- G Series
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    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
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    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
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    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
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    Viotek 32", 28" ASUS VP28U
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    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
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    Zalman i3 NEO
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    ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
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    Corsair
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    Amazon Generic with Cord
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    Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
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    Firefox and Edge
    Antivirus
    MS - Defender
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1

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  • OS
    Windows 11 23H2 22631.2861
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
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    HP Envy TE01-1xxx
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    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz
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    16.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1463MHz (21-21-21-47)
    Memory
    16384 MBytes
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    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
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    Monitor 1 - Acer 27" Monitor 2 - Acer 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    WDC PC SN530 SDBPNPZ-512G-1006 (SSD)
    Seagate ST1000DM003-1SB102
    Seagate BUP Slim SCSI Disk Device (SSD)
    PSU
    HP
    Case
    HP
    Cooling
    Standard
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wave K350
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Internet Speed
    500 mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    That's all Folks!
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    HP
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    Intel Core i7 (10th gen) 10700
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    Intel
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    16 GB
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    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Built-in
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    Acer 27" & Samsung 24"
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    1920 x
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    SSD (512 GB)
    HDD (1 TB)
    Seagate
    PSU
    Intel i7 10th Generation
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    HP
    Cooling
    HP/Intel?
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wave K350
    Internet Speed
    50 mbps
    Browser
    Firefox 90.2
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Headphone/Microphone Combo
    SuperSpeed USB Type-A (4 on front)
    HP 3-in-One Card Readr
    SuperSpeed USB Type-C
    DVD Writer
Bree said:
That would make be my guess. MS aren't saying much, and what little they have said gets blown up out of all proportion by journalists.

I'm keeping my 'non-insider' UUPDump install of the Beta build on my 'seriously-below-spec' System Two (1st gen i5, Legacy/MBR) and will wait and see whether or not it continues to get updates after the official release. It certainly has had no issues to date, having received every CU through Windows Update so far.....
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Maybe I'll take this machine off of Beta sooner rather than later, and see if I pick up next Thursday's CU. But yes, I plan to see this through until next Patch Tuesday...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro build 22000.65
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    PC/Desktop
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    HP Pavilion PC 570-p026
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    Intel Core i5 7400 @ 3 GHz
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    HP Model 82F2 (U3E1)
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    12 GB
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    Intel HD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
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    Acer V173
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    1280x1024
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    500MB Samsung Evo+ SSD
    1TB Western Digital WDC WD10EZEX-60WN4A0 (SATA) 7200 RPM
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Winuser said:
It really don't understand all of the post about MS forcing people to buy new computers. Any device running Windows 10 is not going to stop working come the 5th of October. Windows 10 will be supported until October 14th, 2025. IMHO I think security updates will continue after that date. There is no reason to rush out and buy a new computer.
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I would add Windows 10 won't be less secure for newer processors or for computers with motherboards that support a TPM chip, if you set them up properly. And the absence of a TPM really doesn't make you that much more secure and flaws in TPM can provide additional attack vectors. I bet there are far worse holes in the OS and applications that can be exploited. Certainly it would be desirable for enterprise systems that are big targets, but there are much easier ways to compromise systems that through the boot process. My 2 cents.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY Photoshop/Game/tinker build
    CPU
    Intel i9 13900KS 5.7-6GHz P cores/4.4GHz E/5GHz cache
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    Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Dark Hero
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    64GB (2x32) G.skill Trident Z5 RGB 6400 @6800 MT/s 32-39-39-52
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    Asus ROG Strix 4070 Ti OC
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    Onboard Audio, Vanatoo Transparent One; Klipsch R-12SWi Sub; Creative Pebble Pro Minimilist
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    Eizo CG2730, ViewSonic VP2768
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    2560 x 1440p x 2
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    WDC SN850 1TB nvme, SK-Hynix 2 TB P41 nvme, Raid 0: 1TB 850 EVO + 1TB 860 EVO SSD. Sabrent USB-C DS-SC5B 5-bay docking station: 6TB WDC Black, 6TB Ironwolf Pro; 2x 2TB WDC Black
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    850W Seasonic Vertex PX-850
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    Fractal Design North XL Mesh, Black Walnut
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    EKWB 360 Nucleus Dark AIO w/Phanteks T30-120 fans, 2 Noctua NF-A14 Chromax case fans, 3x50mm fans cooling memory
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    Glorious GMMK TKL mechanical, lubed modded -meh
    Mouse
    Logitech G305 wireless gaming
    Internet Speed
    380 Mb/s down, 12 Mb/s up
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender, Macrium Reflect 8 ;-)
    Other Info
    Runs hot. LOL
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    Apple 13" Macbook Pro 2020 (m1)
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    Apple M1
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    Browser
    Firefox
sgage said:
I plan to see this through until next Patch Tuesday...
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W11, whether in the Insider program or not (like mine) is still getting its CUs on a Thursday, and there are two more Thusdays this month before the official launch date Tuesday 5th October. Then there will be a Patch Tuesday on the 12th, a week after the launch. It won't take long to find out whether or not unsupported installs will continue getting updates.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
Bree said:
W11, whether in the Insider program or not (like mine) is still getting its CUs on a Thursday, and there are two more Thusdays this month before the official launch date Tuesday 5th October. Then there will be a Patch Tuesday on the 12th, a week after the launch. It won't take long to find out whether or not unsupported installs will continue getting updates.
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Exactly! We'll either be on the bus, or off the bus :party:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro build 22000.65
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion PC 570-p026
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 7400 @ 3 GHz
    Motherboard
    HP Model 82F2 (U3E1)
    Memory
    12 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer V173
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    500MB Samsung Evo+ SSD
    1TB Western Digital WDC WD10EZEX-60WN4A0 (SATA) 7200 RPM
    Internet Speed
    300/300 Mbs fiber
Bree said:
W11, whether in the Insider program or not (like mine) is still getting its CUs on a Thursday, and there are two more Thusdays this month before the official launch date Tuesday 5th October. Then there will be a Patch Tuesday on the 12th, a week after the launch. It won't take long to find out whether or not unsupported installs will continue getting updates.
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Hopefully they will fix the two bugs that affect me, both of which have been fixed in dev. One I can't live without - color profiles aren't properly loaded in a multi-monitor setup (I calibrate my displays). The other I don't want to live without (mouse hover over hidden taskbar on second display does not unhide it).
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY Photoshop/Game/tinker build
    CPU
    Intel i9 13900KS 5.7-6GHz P cores/4.4GHz E/5GHz cache
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Dark Hero
    Memory
    64GB (2x32) G.skill Trident Z5 RGB 6400 @6800 MT/s 32-39-39-52
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus ROG Strix 4070 Ti OC
    Sound Card
    Onboard Audio, Vanatoo Transparent One; Klipsch R-12SWi Sub; Creative Pebble Pro Minimilist
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Eizo CG2730, ViewSonic VP2768
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440p x 2
    Hard Drives
    WDC SN850 1TB nvme, SK-Hynix 2 TB P41 nvme, Raid 0: 1TB 850 EVO + 1TB 860 EVO SSD. Sabrent USB-C DS-SC5B 5-bay docking station: 6TB WDC Black, 6TB Ironwolf Pro; 2x 2TB WDC Black
    PSU
    850W Seasonic Vertex PX-850
    Case
    Fractal Design North XL Mesh, Black Walnut
    Cooling
    EKWB 360 Nucleus Dark AIO w/Phanteks T30-120 fans, 2 Noctua NF-A14 Chromax case fans, 3x50mm fans cooling memory
    Keyboard
    Glorious GMMK TKL mechanical, lubed modded -meh
    Mouse
    Logitech G305 wireless gaming
    Internet Speed
    380 Mb/s down, 12 Mb/s up
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender, Macrium Reflect 8 ;-)
    Other Info
    Runs hot. LOL
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple 13" Macbook Pro 2020 (m1)
    CPU
    Apple M1
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1600
    Browser
    Firefox
Ohmer said:
Thanks, but as stated, I need it on the left. 'Left' doesn't work at all, and 'right' completely breaks the taskbar.

Not in any hurry. I'll just wait until MS fully re-implements the feature, or 11 will just have to go on my ignore list. =)
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I reckon that a lot of hacks will stop working as more versions are released and MS stop the. Don't forget that these builds are not the released ones so many things may change. I also think that once Win 11 is released to the public, there will be a few companies and well known tweaking sites releasing programs that will allow tweaking of taskbar and many other things.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware M18 R1
    CPU
    13th Gen Core i9 13900HX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5 @4800MHz 2x16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Geforce RTX 4090HX 16GB
    Sound Card
    Nvidia HD / Realtek ALC3254
    Monitor(s) Displays
    18" QHD+
    Screen Resolution
    25660 X 1600
    Hard Drives
    C: KIOXIA (Toshiba) 2TB KXG80ZNV2T04 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD
    D: KIOXIA (Toshiba) 2TB KXG80ZNV2T04 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD
    Case
    Dark Metallic Moon
    Keyboard
    Alienware M Series per-key AlienFX RGB
    Mouse
    Alienware AW610M
    Browser
    Chrome and Firefox
    Antivirus
    Norton
    Other Info
    Killer E3000 Ethernet Controller
    Killer Killer AX1690 Wi-Fi Network Adaptor Wi-Fi 6E
    Bluetooth 5.2
    Alienware Z01G Graphic Amplifier
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware Area 51m R2
    CPU
    10th Gen i-9 10900 K
    Memory
    32Gb Dual Channel DDR4 @ 8843MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia RTX 2080 Super
    Sound Card
    Nvidia
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Hard Drive C: Samsung 2TB SSD PM981a NVMe
    Hard Drive D:Samsung 2TB SSD 970 EVO Plus
    Mouse
    Alienware 610M
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Norton
I won't be upgrading to 11 until 30-60 days, after I get the notice on each PC. There is always one update after another after a new release. Keep your systems tuned after all upgrades and after their updates. You will be just fine.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 11 Home, 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pravilion 15t-eg000 [2022]
    CPU
    Intel 11th Gen, i5-1135G7
    Memory
    12GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtech
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15" BrightView Touch Screen
    Screen Resolution
    1980X1080
    Hard Drives
    512 SSD
    Case
    Silver Plastic
    Keyboard
    Backlit
    Mouse
    Logitech G602
    Internet Speed
    100 Mbps - AT&T
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge + Bing
    Antivirus
    MS Security/Defender
    Other Info
    Canon TR-8520
    JBL Headphone E45BT
    Sony DVD Player/Writer
Not worried, I will have 2 PCs on 11 and 2 remaining on 10 for obvious reasons. Adapting to Win11 is no more difficult than with with any previous new version of Windows or for that matter any other alternative OS, different makes life interesting. :wink:
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 22H2 OS Build 22623.1095
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Build
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3800X
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME B350-PLUS
    Memory
    16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 @3000Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS - GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB TUF GAMING OC
    Sound Card
    On Board Realtec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer KA241
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    240GB PNY CS900 SSD - OS
    2 x 1TB Crucial MX500 SSD
    1 x 500GB Crucial MX300 SSD
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001-1ER164
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM008-2FR102
    PSU
    750 Watt Corsair TX750 Plus
    Case
    Cooler Master 690 III
    Cooling
    Akasa AK98 5 Case Fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270 - wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech - M185 wireless
    Internet Speed
    BT Fibre 75 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Use hardware KVM to switch monitors on three PCs and software (input director) to use mouse and keyboard on all 4 PCs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 22H2 build 22621.900
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 3881 - modified with SFX PSU fitted internally
    CPU
    Intel i5 - 10400
    Motherboard
    Dell 032w55 version A00
    Memory
    16GB of HyperX Fury @ 2133 Mhz
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 6GB GTX 1060.
    Sound Card
    Builtin
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ACER KA241
    Screen Resolution
    1920x 1080 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    256GB SK hynix NVMe
    1TB Western Digital WD10EZEX-75WN4A1
    PSU
    Modular 450 Watt Corsair SF450 Platinum ( Mod to replace the Dell 265 Watt PSU)
    Case
    Inspiron Small Desktop
    Cooling
    Dell stock cooler
    Mouse
    Dell
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Internet Speed
    BT Fibre 75 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Use hardware KVM to switch monitors on three PCs and software (input director) to use mouse and keyboard on all 4 PCs.
Quandary said:
Those Win 10 machine are not obsolete. They should run as well in 4 years as they do today, and there is an excellent chance that MS will continue providing security update to them after that.

It is expected that MS will make use of hardware facilities in the "newer" PC's to provide enhanced security. It does not do this now, but maybe next year, who knows. This architectural change does not require a completely "new codebase", but those operations/functions will either not work on older PC's or perform poorly. Win 11 is a stake in the ground.
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They will go on a lot longer than 4 years if they are anything like Win 7 :)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware M18 R1
    CPU
    13th Gen Core i9 13900HX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5 @4800MHz 2x16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Geforce RTX 4090HX 16GB
    Sound Card
    Nvidia HD / Realtek ALC3254
    Monitor(s) Displays
    18" QHD+
    Screen Resolution
    25660 X 1600
    Hard Drives
    C: KIOXIA (Toshiba) 2TB KXG80ZNV2T04 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD
    D: KIOXIA (Toshiba) 2TB KXG80ZNV2T04 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD
    Case
    Dark Metallic Moon
    Keyboard
    Alienware M Series per-key AlienFX RGB
    Mouse
    Alienware AW610M
    Browser
    Chrome and Firefox
    Antivirus
    Norton
    Other Info
    Killer E3000 Ethernet Controller
    Killer Killer AX1690 Wi-Fi Network Adaptor Wi-Fi 6E
    Bluetooth 5.2
    Alienware Z01G Graphic Amplifier
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware Area 51m R2
    CPU
    10th Gen i-9 10900 K
    Memory
    32Gb Dual Channel DDR4 @ 8843MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia RTX 2080 Super
    Sound Card
    Nvidia
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Hard Drive C: Samsung 2TB SSD PM981a NVMe
    Hard Drive D:Samsung 2TB SSD 970 EVO Plus
    Mouse
    Alienware 610M
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Norton
Bree said:
That would make be my guess. MS aren't saying much, and what little they have said gets blown up out of all proportion by journalists.
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Not just journalists, but people in general regurgitating false assumptions, misinformation, of just flat-out wrong info based on their own fear of (trying) something new.

The "forced to upgrade" posts are a bit much. Being "nagged/advertised to" to upgrade is nowhere near being forced to upgrade. If your system doesn't meet the Windows 11 requirements, it's not going to force itself on a system that doesn't support it. But even on a system that does support it, if you're happy with Windows 10 stay there. There's STILL at least 4 years of full support before EOL (End Of Life).

I'm also amazed at how many are buying TPM modules when their boards already have fTPM included. Some claiming to be system builders but it's clear they've not ventured into their BIOS as they claim a feature doesn't exist when it does. Odd coming from a "PC builder".

With that, Microsoft never stated users needed purchase a "discrete" TPM module, only that the system (motherboard) meets some type of TPM 2.0 requirement. Firmware (PTT) TPM certainly does that. In short Microsoft isn't distinguishing between TPM types, only that they're TPM 2.0.

BTW, even if a board meets the TPM 2.0 requirement, there's still the question of 7th gen CPU support? My Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming GT motherboard in my backup system has firmware TPM 2.0, but it certainly doesn't support 8th gen CPUs, so "if" Microsoft doesn't allow for 7th gen CPUs, it doesn't matter if the board meets the TPM requirement because the CPU isn't supported.

So yes, between the click bait articles, lack of knowledge/confusion, FUD, vitriol towards Microsoft, it's no wonder there's mass confusion, especially when some regurgitate stuff, they aren't even sure of, but pass it along as fact anyway.

Nothing wrong with guesswork, we all do it in the preview tech world, but some of it gets pretty wild at times o_O
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (Build 22631.3296)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    Intel i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Xtreme
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (3600Mhz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon VII
    Sound Card
    Onboard (ESS Sabre HiFi using Realtek drivers)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NEC PA242w (24 inch)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    5 Samsung SSD drives: 2X 970 NVME (512 & 1TB), 3X EVO SATA (2X 2TB, 1X 1TB)
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova I000 G2 (1000 watt)
    Case
    Cooler Master H500M
    Cooling
    Corsair H115i RGB Platinum
    Keyboard
    Logitech Craft
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    500mb Download. 11mb Upload
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    System used for gaming, photography, music, school.
  • Operating System
    Win 10 Pro 22H2 (build 19045.2130)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-7700K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-Z270X-GAMING 8
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair Dominator Platinum (3333Mhz)
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon R9 Fury
    Sound Card
    Onboard (Creative Sound Blaster certified ZxRi)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2415 (24 inch)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    3 Samsung SSD drives: 1x 512gig 950 NVMe drive (OS drive), 1 x 512gig 850 Pro, 1x 256gig 840 Pro.
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova 1000 P2 (1000 watt)
    Case
    Phantek Enthoo Luxe
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK 710
    Internet Speed
    100MB
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    This is my backup system.
Dru2 said:
BTW, even if a board meets the TPM 2.0 requirement, there's still the question of 7th gen CPU support?
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I took the trouble to update my Dell Latitude E7270's firmware to TPM 2.0 before I realised its 6th gen i7 is never going to be supported :eyeroll:
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
Dru2 said:
So yes, between the click bait articles, lack of knowledge/confusion, FUD, vitriol towards Microsoft, it's no wonder there's mass confusion, especially when some regurgitate stuff, they aren't even sure of, but pass it along as fact anyway.
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Maybe if Microsoft covered all the pertinent facts with absolute clarity (as they should do), not so much room would be left for all this confusion. Create a vacuum and there's no controlling what will rush to fill it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win10 Pro x64 & 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-11700
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Strix Z590 Gaming
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200MHz 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce RTX 3050
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 32UN650 32" 4k
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160 @ 60Hz (175% scaling)
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe 250GB; WD Gold (WD1005FBYZ) 1TB; WD Black (WD1003FZEX) 1TB
    PSU
    Corsair RM850x
    Case
    Antec P100
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO V2 with Noctua NF-P12 Redux & 120mm Case Fan x3
    Keyboard
    Logitech K740
    Mouse
    Logitech M310
    Internet Speed
    372 Mb down/12Mb up
    Browser
    Firefox & Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender & Free MBAM
    Other Info
    Main PC
larc919 said:
Maybe if Microsoft covered all the pertinent facts with absolute clarity (as they should do), not so much room would be left for all this confusion. Create a vacuum and there's no controlling what will rush to fill it.
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This.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro build 22000.65
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion PC 570-p026
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 7400 @ 3 GHz
    Motherboard
    HP Model 82F2 (U3E1)
    Memory
    12 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer V173
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    500MB Samsung Evo+ SSD
    1TB Western Digital WDC WD10EZEX-60WN4A0 (SATA) 7200 RPM
    Internet Speed
    300/300 Mbs fiber
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