Windows 11 - Explorer - Navigation Pane not expanding


Penny666

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Hi,

I have lost so many hours in trying to fix this, I am so behind now. Anyhow...

There must have been a recent update and it destroyed my navigation pane in explorer. I managed to get rid of Home and Gallery by editing the registry so the display is now perfect with showing only the quick access and This PC.

However, even though "Expand to current folder" is ticked the nave pane never expands to current folder.

For example, I click on "Documents" and then a sub folder and the navigation pane does not change. I press Ctrl+Shift+E and an extra "Documents" is added to the nave pane expanded to the directory but if I move to a different directory the nave pane stays on the old one and does not show the current one.

All I would like is for the nave pane to show the directory tree, whether the root be This PC or Documents or Music or Whatever.

How can I fix this? Thanks.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
Hi!
have you tried to Right click in an empty space in the nav pane and choose these (screen shot below)
 

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Thank you for your reply.
"Expand to current folder" is ticked but it does not change the behaviour.
Also, when "Show all folders" is ticked everything else disappears.

Please find attached images of both views.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
Hi penny!
I get the same thing as you when I uncheck Show all folders BUT,
Desktop is left there as in yours. Expand desktop and all should come back.
 

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    windows 11 22631.3296
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI Raider GE76
    CPU
    Core i9 12th gen 12900HK 2.9 MHz
    Motherboard
    MSI
    Memory
    32 Gigs DDR5-4800
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia RTX 3070 Ti / 8 Gigs DDR6
    Sound Card
    DYNAUDIO - Klipsch 2.1 THX - Sound Effects by Nahimic 3
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" 1920 x 1080 360 Hz 3 ms, IPS / Connected to MSI 32 inch curved @ 165 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 / Both
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 Pro 2TB (OS) - Solidigm P41 2TB (Storage)
    PSU
    280 watts
    Case
    MSI GE series
    Cooling
    internal
    Keyboard
    Steelseries
    Mouse
    G903 Lightspeed
    Internet Speed
    1000 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox / Opera GX- Do not like Edge
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes'
    Other Info
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    Intel Core i7 7820HK 2.9 Ghz
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    MSI
    Memory
    16 Gigs DDR4 2400 Mhz
    Graphics card(s)
    nVidia 1070 8GB RAM
    Sound Card
    DYNAUDIO / Nahimic 2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    IPS / 120HZ
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080P
    Hard Drives
    Samsung NVME EVO 970 1TB / Samsung SSD (SATA) 1TB
    PSU
    240 watts
    Case
    MSI
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    Internal
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    1 Gb/s
    Browser
    Firefox / Vivaldi
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    none.
Another way to change behavior of files in explorer would be to go to Control Panel (expand upper right corner to view Large Icons)
Click on File Explorer Options and choose View. Scroll down to Navigation Pane and choose the options you want.
 

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    windows 11 22631.3296
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI Raider GE76
    CPU
    Core i9 12th gen 12900HK 2.9 MHz
    Motherboard
    MSI
    Memory
    32 Gigs DDR5-4800
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia RTX 3070 Ti / 8 Gigs DDR6
    Sound Card
    DYNAUDIO - Klipsch 2.1 THX - Sound Effects by Nahimic 3
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" 1920 x 1080 360 Hz 3 ms, IPS / Connected to MSI 32 inch curved @ 165 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 / Both
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 Pro 2TB (OS) - Solidigm P41 2TB (Storage)
    PSU
    280 watts
    Case
    MSI GE series
    Cooling
    internal
    Keyboard
    Steelseries
    Mouse
    G903 Lightspeed
    Internet Speed
    1000 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox / Opera GX- Do not like Edge
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes'
    Other Info
    just ask.
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 22H2
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    Laptop
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    MSI GT73 7RE VR Titan
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 7820HK 2.9 Ghz
    Motherboard
    MSI
    Memory
    16 Gigs DDR4 2400 Mhz
    Graphics card(s)
    nVidia 1070 8GB RAM
    Sound Card
    DYNAUDIO / Nahimic 2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    IPS / 120HZ
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080P
    Hard Drives
    Samsung NVME EVO 970 1TB / Samsung SSD (SATA) 1TB
    PSU
    240 watts
    Case
    MSI
    Cooling
    Internal
    Mouse
    Logitech G903 Lightspeed
    Keyboard
    Steelseries
    Internet Speed
    1 Gb/s
    Browser
    Firefox / Vivaldi
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes'
    Other Info
    none.
I'm experiencing this too. Started with new File explorer in Insider builds, and now is happening in regular builds since the last update.

@Penny666 , did you move your Documents on other location (from default under C:\Users...)? It happens to me only on moved locations (Documents, Pictures.. etc.), as I have them on different partition than System. Other folders shows fine in expanded folders under Navigation menu.

Picture shows a folder that is not a part of User's folders. If I open a folder in Documents (moved to different partition) navigation pane doesn't expand


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    Windows 10 Pro, Windows 11 Dev
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    PC/Desktop
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    Homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel I3 10100
    Motherboard
    ASUS B460M
    Memory
    16 GB DDR4 Crucial
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel on chip
    Sound Card
    Realtek onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS 24, LG 24
    Screen Resolution
    Full HD x 2
    Hard Drives
    kingston A2000 NVMe PCIe 500 GB
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    LC Power 650W
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    Noname
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    Air 2x 120mm
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    Cherry G-81
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    Logitech M500
    Internet Speed
    100/20
    Browser
    Firefox, Vivaldi
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    MS Defender
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    Windows 10 Home
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS/Vivobook Flip 14
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    Ryzen 7 4700u
    Memory
    8 GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Vega
    Sound Card
    Realtek onboard
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    14"
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    FullHD
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    512 Samsung NVMe PCIe
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    -
    Case
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    Touchpad, Touchscreen
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    100/20
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    Firefox, Vivaldi
    Antivirus
    MS Defender
Hi penny!
I get the same thing as you when I uncheck Show all folders BUT,
Desktop is left there as in yours. Expand desktop and all should come back.

You are right but where is my Quick Assess? I cannot see them.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
I'm experiencing this too. Started with new File explorer in Insider builds, and now is happening in regular builds since the last update.

@Penny666 , did you move your Documents on other location (from default under C:\Users...)? It happens to me only on moved locations (Documents, Pictures.. etc.), as I have them on different partition than System. Other folders shows fine in expanded folders under Navigation menu.

Picture shows a folder that is not a part of User's folders. If I open a folder in Documents (moved to different partition) navigation pane doesn't expand


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It is in the standard location, if being in the user directory is standard.

I checked "Show All Folders" and see attachment, all the Quick Access have disappeared.
 

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It is in the standard location, if being in the user directory is standard.

I checked "Show All Folders" and see attachment, all the Quick Access have disappeared.
Can confirm that. Now any folder accessed under User folders is not expanded in Navigation pane. Until recently this was only true for moved User folders .

Show all folders is not acceptable to me, as it create a mess in Navigation pane

What is strange, Navigation pane will expand if I browse to tested folder gradually from C:\ :rolleyes:
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro, Windows 11 Dev
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel I3 10100
    Motherboard
    ASUS B460M
    Memory
    16 GB DDR4 Crucial
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel on chip
    Sound Card
    Realtek onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS 24, LG 24
    Screen Resolution
    Full HD x 2
    Hard Drives
    kingston A2000 NVMe PCIe 500 GB
    PSU
    LC Power 650W
    Case
    Noname
    Cooling
    Air 2x 120mm
    Keyboard
    Cherry G-81
    Mouse
    Logitech M500
    Internet Speed
    100/20
    Browser
    Firefox, Vivaldi
    Antivirus
    MS Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS/Vivobook Flip 14
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 4700u
    Memory
    8 GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Vega
    Sound Card
    Realtek onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14"
    Screen Resolution
    FullHD
    Hard Drives
    512 Samsung NVMe PCIe
    PSU
    -
    Case
    Laptop
    Mouse
    Touchpad, Touchscreen
    Internet Speed
    100/20
    Browser
    Firefox, Vivaldi
    Antivirus
    MS Defender
I believe "Show All Folders" is the view that I am used to. What seems to have happened is when in this view, Quick Access and "This PC" have disappeared.
Do you know how I can make them visible when "Show All Folders" is enabled?
Thanks :)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
Have you thought about using a third party file manager. There are a few free ones you may like. There is one file manager app in the Microsoft store that I use on occasion. it's called Files App. I don't remember if it's free to try or free but with limited features. Back when MS was still teasing us about releasing a tabbed File Explorer I installed it and liked it enough that I bought it. I forget what I paid but I do know it wasn't much.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
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    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
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    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
I believe "Show All Folders" is the view that I am used to. What seems to have happened is when in this view, Quick Access and "This PC" have disappeared.
Do you know how I can make them visible when "Show All Folders" is enabled?
Thanks :)
This PC should be checked (the same way you've enabled Show All folders (right click on empty space in Navigation pane, or View tab in Options)
Quick access is under Home (You have to expand Home in Navigation pane)
And everything is under Desktop. this is what I'm calling "a mess"

All options to show or hide This PC (and other folders in Navigation plane are in Brink's Tutorials

 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro, Windows 11 Dev
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel I3 10100
    Motherboard
    ASUS B460M
    Memory
    16 GB DDR4 Crucial
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel on chip
    Sound Card
    Realtek onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS 24, LG 24
    Screen Resolution
    Full HD x 2
    Hard Drives
    kingston A2000 NVMe PCIe 500 GB
    PSU
    LC Power 650W
    Case
    Noname
    Cooling
    Air 2x 120mm
    Keyboard
    Cherry G-81
    Mouse
    Logitech M500
    Internet Speed
    100/20
    Browser
    Firefox, Vivaldi
    Antivirus
    MS Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS/Vivobook Flip 14
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 4700u
    Memory
    8 GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Vega
    Sound Card
    Realtek onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14"
    Screen Resolution
    FullHD
    Hard Drives
    512 Samsung NVMe PCIe
    PSU
    -
    Case
    Laptop
    Mouse
    Touchpad, Touchscreen
    Internet Speed
    100/20
    Browser
    Firefox, Vivaldi
    Antivirus
    MS Defender
Thanks for your comments.
I have found everything I need when Show all folders is selected. In this mode none of the other check boxes make any difference.
I am not sure what happened or why the update changed anything but I am back at a workable level.
I have absolutely no control or options on how to tailor my experience. I am stuck with how Microsoft force me to use their software. Hey ho. Who needs freedom.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
I have absolutely no control or options on how to tailor my experience. I am stuck with how Microsoft force me to use their software.

You have to remember that Mamma Microsoft knows what's best for us. I'm glad to hear that File Explorer is workable for you again. With the new File Explorer I have a problem with it continuing to search for files even though all of them are loaded. The circle keeps spinning until I click on the X. I went back to using Files and I'm trying out FreeCommander XE. I like FreeCommander XE except for the fact that I haven't found a way to switch to a dark mode or even if it's possible.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender

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