Solved Windows 11 fails after first update (a lot of services won't start at boot)


Burgurne

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Hi.
I started this thread earlier, Some services won't start at boot but the error came back. Here is what I have tried:

Backup my old windows 11 install (with Acronis), which works incl boot to safemode. But this is an old install taking up more than 25 gigabyte ekstra of space compared to a new install (incl office 365 and games), so I wanted to make a fresh slim Windows 11 :-)

Load default setting in BIOS (ie no OC)

Installed Windows 11 with a newly created fresh install media from Download Windows 11 (danish url to create windows 11 media on an USB)

At this point everything works, including reboot in safemode.

Starts WU, and it finds some updates to windows and to my logitech USB keybord and mouse. Logitech driver fails first, but at second attempt it seems to work. After everything is installed, it reboot, and it seems to go as usual with a new Windows install. After all updates are installed, first boot seems OK. I then tried to boot in safemode and it won't work. It stops at the login screen where you type your PIN, no input is possible, and seconds later the light in my mouse and keyboard goes out.
After a while I had to use the RESET-butten on my PC-cabinet, and let it boot normally. I then looked at the log from the safemode-boot, and 23 services fails to start. The text was that "xxx.service fail to start timed out after 45000 milliseconds", but no clue WHY it could not start.

I then waited some time, rebooted normally, it was a little slow, but not so much, I again looked at the log and at the normal boot, "only" 2 services won't start, same error as described above. Remember, at this point I have not changed anything nor installed any driver or software myself. It is only Windows 11 that has installed updates.

This was my second attempt to install Windows 11 (first attempt I spend a lot of time making games, Office and tools working, not knowing anything about safemode-problem, but thinking it was quite slow to boot) hence the first thread as written above in the first line.

I then recovered my old backup (Acronis again), and it booted up normally. I then tried to boot in safe-mode, and it works also normally.

After 2 hours sleep, I tried it all over again with a fresh install. But same outcome, a faulty installation. This was pretty much my weekend 😢.

Windows version on the new install after updates (and faults) 22631.3447
Windows version on my old (working) install 22635.3495 (Windows Insider BETA)

Why is my old install working, but a new install (after WU) don't????

Any ideas about what the error might be?
Any ideas to a solution.

English is not my first language, so I'm sorry, if some phases seems worng.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuild
    CPU
    Core i5 14600K
    Motherboard
    ASUS PRIME z790-A WiFi
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5600 - 32GB - CL36
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI RTX 3090 GamerX Trio
    Sound Card
    SoundBlaster AE5
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS ROG PG32UQ
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO NVMe 500Gbyte
    Adata XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro 1Tbyte
    Adata XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro 2Tbyte
    Hitachi 8Tbyte HDD
    PSU
    RIOTORO Enigma G2 PSU 850W 80+ Gold FM
    Case
    Fractal R5 Black Edition
    Cooling
    Noctua NH15D
    Keyboard
    Logitech G915 LightSpeed
    Mouse
    Logitecg G900 LightSpeed
    Internet Speed
    1000/1000
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    BitDefender
    Other Info
    Mostly build for gaming.
Safe mode starts Windows in a basic state, using a limited set of files and drivers. It can help you troubleshoot problems on your PC. For example, if the problem doesn't happen in safe mode, you'll know default settings and basic device drivers aren't causing the issue.

I suggest you reinstall Windows 11 and disable driver updates.

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    Erica6
    Memory
    Micron Technology DDR4-3200 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC671
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster U28E590
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG MZVLQ1T0HALB-000H1
Okay! I will try this now ... be back later :-)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuild
    CPU
    Core i5 14600K
    Motherboard
    ASUS PRIME z790-A WiFi
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5600 - 32GB - CL36
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI RTX 3090 GamerX Trio
    Sound Card
    SoundBlaster AE5
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS ROG PG32UQ
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO NVMe 500Gbyte
    Adata XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro 1Tbyte
    Adata XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro 2Tbyte
    Hitachi 8Tbyte HDD
    PSU
    RIOTORO Enigma G2 PSU 850W 80+ Gold FM
    Case
    Fractal R5 Black Edition
    Cooling
    Noctua NH15D
    Keyboard
    Logitech G915 LightSpeed
    Mouse
    Logitecg G900 LightSpeed
    Internet Speed
    1000/1000
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    BitDefender
    Other Info
    Mostly build for gaming.
I can't help because I'm on a rare still Windows build.

I don't have to worry about updates that might leave Windows in a broken state.

Not perfect but from where I am, the fall now doesn't seem to be too far away.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP ZBook G2
    CPU
    Intel® Core i7 5500u
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Family Graphics AMD Firepro 4150M
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Audio
    Hard Drives
    1 TB SSD
    Mouse
    HP USB Mouse
    Antivirus
    Zone Alarm Free Antivirus/Zone Alarm Free Firewall NEXT GEN
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Zbook G4
    CPU
    Xeon 1535m v6
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Quadro Pro 4100
    Sound Card
    Bang and Olufson Audio
    Hard Drives
    1TB SSD
    Mouse
    HP USB Mouse
    Antivirus
    Zone Alarm Free Antivirus/Zone Alarm Free Firewall NEXT GEN
Safe mode starts Windows in a basic state, using a limited set of files and drivers. It can help you troubleshoot problems on your PC. For example, if the problem doesn't happen in safe mode, you'll know default settings and basic device drivers aren't causing the issue.

I suggest you reinstall Windows 11 and disable driver updates.

HEUREKA. I first tried your video, but that did not work, but it make me think back. I have for some years ago a problem with a driver that came with WU (Auzentech soundcard I think). So I searched for "prevent driverinstall in WU", and I found this:
Redirecting
That worked!!! It was an Intel (or maybe 2) driver(s) that destroyed my installation. Now it is running with the Intel-drivers from MSI, and everything seems to work.
Thank you veru much for your help :thumbsup:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuild
    CPU
    Core i5 14600K
    Motherboard
    ASUS PRIME z790-A WiFi
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5600 - 32GB - CL36
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI RTX 3090 GamerX Trio
    Sound Card
    SoundBlaster AE5
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS ROG PG32UQ
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO NVMe 500Gbyte
    Adata XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro 1Tbyte
    Adata XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro 2Tbyte
    Hitachi 8Tbyte HDD
    PSU
    RIOTORO Enigma G2 PSU 850W 80+ Gold FM
    Case
    Fractal R5 Black Edition
    Cooling
    Noctua NH15D
    Keyboard
    Logitech G915 LightSpeed
    Mouse
    Logitecg G900 LightSpeed
    Internet Speed
    1000/1000
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    BitDefender
    Other Info
    Mostly build for gaming.
You are very welcome!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    Erica6
    Memory
    Micron Technology DDR4-3200 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC671
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster U28E590
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG MZVLQ1T0HALB-000H1

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