Solved Windows 11 has suddenly lost Pro license activation


To contact Microsoft; call their helpdesk in the Netherlands (Amsterdam) 020-5001500. If they need some proof; they can provide you with an e-mail address to send your proof of purchase etc. to. I hope they will resolve your case on a short basis.
I already called this hotline previously. After the bot asks to describe my issue and I answer that it's about Windows activation, I get told by the bot to go to the general Microsoft support website and then the call is terminated.
 

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I already called this hotline previously. After the bot asks to describe my issue and I answer that it's about Windows activation, I get told by the bot to go to the general Microsoft support website and then the call is terminated.
Jezzz... A bot that just point to as direction without giving you any clue and hangs up.....

Alternative #1 to speak with somebody: Microsoft medewerker spreken? Zo krijg je snel persoonlijk contact
Alternative #2; Contact MS Support; (log in with your account. Have to answer a zillion questions: Contact Us - Microsoft Support) In the end you will get to a page where you can input your license key. From that point.... Don't know. Those guys are making it difficult to reach them...
Alternative #3; Goto their forum: Windows voor thuisgebruik - Microsoft Q&A You can ask them questions (choose the right category first) Some MS employee will react and help you further.. (I hope) I have dealt with those guys before; all they give you as an answer are scripted answers if things becomes complicated....

Apparently they have set up a firewall between us and them to prevent to be flooded with questions..... In worst case call their CEO. I am afraid that his secretary will give you the same answer the bot already did. :lmao:
 

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Have you tried this older thread solutions?


1. The one that worked in your post #7 (I think you've tried this but not sure...)
2. Post #16's (that would need research or elaboration, I know myself inconcretely there's an "unattend file" that can fix problems or fulfill needs).
3. Post #17's (it seems simpler).

Do we have to learn anything new about the licenses?

Time ago I found this Windows Activation FAQ: How do language, version, 64-bit or 32-bit, and source affect ability to install and transfer Windows licenses? when researching another thing. I learnt there that there exists, or existed, an "upgrade license" class. A license can/could be, according to the link's table, OEM, Retail, Upgrade, MSDN (likely expired?) or Volume license. Notice that an "Upgrade license" is/was essentially equal to a Retail one. This is likely why you can (or could) migrate an upgrade Windows 10 license, that came from an older Windows 7/8 one, to a different computer using a trobleshooter I cannot recall (I have never done this myself), even if the original license was OEM.

I think this procedure (as if you were changing the hw) could be appliable here. I see an upgrade from 7/8 to 10 is different from from Home to Pro, but this is a difficult problem where other orthodox solutions aren't working and they have this in common: in both cases, the activation is backed by a digital license, not by a product key.

Does 145€ cover well the steps Home->Pro and OEM->Retail? Currently Home Retail 145€ and Pro Retail 259€. The miniPC of my signature costed 310€ and it included a 10/11 OEM Pro license, I've always thought that a big part of its cost was this license.

I mean: imo the (possibly old) equalization of Upgrade and Retail licenses even if you upgrade from OEM is a simplification, but with a Store "filter" they can refine this: in the above thread post #7 solution you had to use the initial license first and then click something at the Store, instead of being recognized automaticly.

PS: now that I think about it, what if you upgrade a license and afterwards you use the old license? Could it cause a 0xC004C003 error?

I'm also posting a possible way to get assistance from MS in the other thread. Allow some minutes please...
 

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The issue has finally been resolved. I eventually discovered on my own that in the Windows Get Help app there is a way to conjure up the option to enter a chat with a person from Microsoft support. A very crucial step seems to be to never mention in prompts that you have an issue regarding Windows activation, but only ever write/select that you have an unspecified technical issue.

After finally discovering this way to enter a support chat I was connected to a Microsoft support person almost instantly who was actually helpful. It took a chat session and eventually a remote desktop session that combined took up more than an hour with what seemed to be some trial-and-error attempts, but in the end after the support person had restarted some activation-related Windows processes and brought up an activation-by-phone menu and entered a specific confirmation ID, the activation finally became active again.
 

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......

PS: now that I think about it, what if you upgrade a license and afterwards you use the old license? Could it cause a 0xC004C003 error?

.......
No.
- If many people try to register using the same license key than it is deemed suspicious. The activation servers will block that key.
- If the license key is for 1 system only and you want to use it on a 2nd system. It won't accept it. If you keep on retrying than it will block this key eventually.

MS is explains this error clearly:

0xC004C003You may see this error because the Windows 11 product key you entered isn’t valid. Product keys are unique—assigned to a specific user to install on a single device. If a key was used (or attempted to be used) on multiple devices, it’s marked as not valid. To activate Windows, you’ll need to provide a different Windows key unique to your device.

If you bought a device from a reseller of Windows 11 and expected the key to be valid, contact the reseller. If your device was purchased with Windows 11 preinstalled and you received this activation error upon turning it on for the first time, contact your device manufacturer.
 

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After finally discovering this way to enter a support chat I was connected to a Microsoft support person almost instantly who was actually helpful. It took a chat session and eventually a remote desktop session that combined took up more than an hour with what seemed to be some trial-and-error attempts, but in the end after the support person had restarted some activation-related Windows processes and brought up an activation-by-phone menu and entered a specific confirmation ID, the activation finally became active again.
What a rain-dance! One has to wonder how that got so screwed up in the first place! There's nothing like having the actual key in your possession! :whistle:
 

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The issue has finally been resolved. I eventually discovered on my own that in the Windows Get Help app there is a way to conjure up the option to enter a chat with a person from Microsoft support. A very crucial step seems to be to never mention in prompts that you have an issue regarding Windows activation, but only ever write/select that you have an unspecified technical issue.

After finally discovering this way to enter a support chat I was connected to a Microsoft support person almost instantly who was actually helpful. It took a chat session and eventually a remote desktop session that combined took up more than an hour with what seemed to be some trial-and-error attempts, but in the end after the support person had restarted some activation-related Windows processes and brought up an activation-by-phone menu and entered a specific confirmation ID, the activation finally became active again.
In the middle of the night I thought my NEXT suggestion was going to be don't say it was an activation issue but I had no way of knowing if there was another valid option choice. I could have swore I posted some ways to do what I think the support person did, I'll have to read all my posts to check. It was by using a few command prompts.

I looked . . . Did you (or the support person) do what was mentioned in the video I shared in post #4

Very happy 🥳 you got it solved. I'll bookmark it
 
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I already called this hotline previously. After the bot asks to describe my issue and I answer that it's about Windows activation, I get told by the bot to go to the general Microsoft support website and then the call is terminated.
Have you tried to enter the Win 11 Pro generic key? (VK7JG-NPHTM-C97JM-9MPGT-3V66T) If you try calling MS support again try saying something like "I want to talk to a technician" You may have change the word technician to something else such as a support person for example. That's what I do when I make a call to a business and get stuck talking to a computer. Some times when I get a recording that says press 1 for this or press 2 for that, and etc., I've had success by pushing the 0 on my phone.
 

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change the word technician to something else such as a support person for example.
I always ask for a "human" but some are tricky and ask you what you want to talk to the human about and then you're still stuck with the phone bot.
 

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Have you tried to enter the Win 11 Pro generic key? (VK7JG-NPHTM-C97JM-9MPGT-3V66T) If you try calling MS support again try saying something like "I want to talk to a technician" You may have change the word technician to something else such as a support person for example. That's what I do when I make a call to a business and get stuck talking to a computer. Some times when I get a recording that says press 1 for this or press 2 for that, and etc., I've had success by pushing the 0 on my phone.
Yes, I tried that generic key as well. It didn't solve the issue.

If you call the Microsoft telephone hotline and say to the bot that you'd like to talk to a person, then afterwards the bot still asks for the topic. And if you say it's about activation, then you still get told to go the support website with the call getting terminated afterwards.
 

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Yes, I tried that generic key as well. It didn't solve the issue.

If you call the Microsoft telephone hotline and say to the bot that you'd like to talk to a person, then afterwards the bot still asks for the topic. And if you say it's about activation, then you still get told to go the support website with the call getting terminated afterwards.
I don't know where your located but I've never had a problem contacting a support person when calling the US number. I do have to admit that it has been years since I had to contact MS support. In your case I would try other reasons and not say activation. Have you tried mentioning that online support was not helpful? Just try to not mention that online activation support wasn't helpful. I would try any reason I could think of to get to a support person. If you get lucky to talk to someone then tell them the real reason you called.
 

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I don't know where your located but I've never had a problem contacting a support person when calling the US number. I do have to admit that it has been years since I had to contact MS support. In your case I would try other reasons and not say activation. Have you tried mentioning that online support was not helpful? Just try to not mention that online activation support wasn't helpful. I would try any reason I could think of to get to a support person. If you get lucky to talk to someone then tell them the real reason you called.
I am located in Europe. But regardless of the location difference, making it increasingly difficult to get in touch with an actual person seems to have been a trend for consumer helpdesks of many large companies for a while.

My experience from these past few days is that as soon as you mention "activation" to the telephone bot, it's game over. Once you have done that, the bot tells you to go the Microsoft support website, asks once the yes-or-no question whether you would also like to receive the URL in the form of a SMS, and then terminates the call. You don't get the chance to say anything further to the bot.

As mentioned, in the Windows Get Help app I could finally get into a chat session with a support person after only answering in prompts that I had a technical issue and that I was in need of technical support. Perhaps the same might work for the telephone hotline?

But I think it was for the best that I finally could have a chat and screen share / remote control session with a support person instead of a phone session. My session with the support person lasted well over an hour, and a phone session would probably had taken even longer.
 

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But I think it was for the best that I finally could have a chat and screen share / remote control session with a support person instead of a phone session. My session with the support person lasted well over an hour, and a phone session would probably had taken even longer.
If the chat was by texting it probably was for the best. My hearing isn't the best any more and if they have a heavy foreign accent I can't always understand most of what they're saying. When this happens I always try to be polite by telling them that the connection is bad so please talk louder and slower.
 

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    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
If the chat was by texting it probably was for the best. My hearing isn't the best any more and if they have a heavy foreign accent I can't always understand most of what they're saying. When this happens I always try to be polite by telling them that the connection is bad so please talk louder and slower.
I avoid telephone help desks of large corporations whenever I can these days. I've had it happen too often that if I call for a problem (especially if it doesn't have a standard solution) the help desk person offers me what my instincts tell me right away is a worthless non-solution that they're just giving me to get me out of their hair, but I don't immediately have clear arguments against it ready so I can't outright reject it during the phone call.

At least in chat and e-mail communication I have some more time to think of a proper reply to offered non-solutions.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo
The issue has finally been resolved.
Bingo!! And well done for your perseverance (which obviously wasn't in doubt from the outset (y)). Another triumph, takes the score to Consumers 158 -vs- Microsoft 1bn+
I avoid telephone help desks
Agreed. Problem with help desk is that they're mostly contracted out. Responses are based on the clarity of the enquiry so the help person can input appropriate key words into a database, from which bog-standard generic responses are "parrotted" to the caller. And when that computer software enquiry is finished, the same help centre person then takes the next call on behalf of another contractor, this time about how to stop the washing machine from overflowing .... 😱
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 2xH2 (latest update ... forever anal)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Slim S01
    CPU
    Intel i5-12400
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT730
    Sound Card
    OOBE
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 32"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    512GB KIOXIA NVMe
    1TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    OOBE
    Case
    OOBE
    Cooling
    OOBE
    Keyboard
    BT
    Mouse
    BT
    Browser
    Brave FFox Chrome Opera
    Antivirus
    KIS
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 2xH2 (latest update ... 4ever anal)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion 15
    CPU
    i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Hard Drives
    Samsung NVMe 512GB
    + numerous/multiple SSD Type C USB enclosures
    Internet Speed
    NBN FTTN 50
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    KIS
and eventually a remote desktop session
A word of caution .. just be absolutely confident that it was Microsoft with whom you were discussing this issue, and that it was MS that was given/gained remote access to your device.

In tin-foil hat paranoia mode, I'd still be considering changing some passwords (email, especially) and any financial access you've used your device for.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 2xH2 (latest update ... forever anal)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Slim S01
    CPU
    Intel i5-12400
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT730
    Sound Card
    OOBE
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 32"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    512GB KIOXIA NVMe
    1TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    OOBE
    Case
    OOBE
    Cooling
    OOBE
    Keyboard
    BT
    Mouse
    BT
    Browser
    Brave FFox Chrome Opera
    Antivirus
    KIS
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 2xH2 (latest update ... 4ever anal)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion 15
    CPU
    i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Hard Drives
    Samsung NVMe 512GB
    + numerous/multiple SSD Type C USB enclosures
    Internet Speed
    NBN FTTN 50
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    KIS
A word of caution .. just be absolutely confident that it was Microsoft with whom you were discussing this issue, and that it was MS that was given/gained remote access to your device.

In tin-foil hat paranoia mode, I'd still be considering changing some passwords (email, especially) and any financial access you've used your device for.
Yes, that's good advice of course given the prevalence of help desk scams. However in this case the chat session was initiated directly by me from the Windows Get Help app and the screen share / remote control session was initiated directly by me from the Windows Quick Assist app.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo
The real problem with the first level help desk support is they don't actually have the best and brightest manning them! :D
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8655
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14500
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M G P WIFI
    Memory
    64GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    Chipset Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 45" Ultragear, Acer 24" 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    5120x1440, 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD (O/S)
    Silicon Power 2TB US75 NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280 SSD (backup)
    Crucial BX500 2TB 3D NAND (2nd backup)
    Seagate 4TB Ironwolf, rotating HDD archive files
    External off-line backup Drives: 2 NVMe 4TB drives in external enclosures
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W
    Case
    LIAN LI LANCOOL 216 E-ATX PC Case
    Cooling
    Lots of fans!
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8524
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Sound Card
    Realtek Embedded
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" HP 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 eD NAND PCIe SSD
    Samsung EVO 990 2TB NVMe Gen4 SSD
    Samsung 2TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    Thermaltake Smart BM3 650W
    Case
    Okinos Micro ATX Case
    Cooling
    Fans
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security

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