Insider Windows 11 Insider Dev Build 25197.1000 (rs_prerelease) - Sept. 8


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UPDATE 9/14:


Hello Windows Insiders, today we are releasing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 25197 to the Dev Channel.

TL;DR

  • We are re-introducing tablet-optimized taskbar and System Tray updates. These changes are beginning to roll out so not all Insiders in the Dev Channel will see these changes right away.
  • We are releasing a couple of app updates to Windows Insiders in the Dev Channel.

What’s new

Tablet-optimized taskbar

We’re re-introducing the touch-optimized taskbar that’s designed to make you feel more confident and comfortable using your device as a tablet. Your taskbar will automatically transition to this optimized version when you disconnect or fold back the keyboard on your 2-in-1 device. This feature only works on devices that can be used as tablets. It does not work on laptops or desktop PCs.

As a reminder, there are two states of this taskbar: collapsed and expanded. In the collapsed state, the taskbar gets out your way, gives you more screen space, and prevents you from accidentally invoking the taskbar when you’re holding your tablet. In the expanded state, the taskbar is optimized to be easier to use with touch. You can easily switch between the two states by swiping up and down on the bottom of your device.


Tablet-optimized taskbar in both collapsed and expanded states.
Tablet-optimized taskbar in both collapsed and expanded states.

If this feature is available, you will see a new setting at Settings > Personalization > Taskbar > Taskbar behaviors called “Optimize taskbar for touch interactions when this device is used as a tablet” that will be set to on by default.

[We are beginning to roll this feature out, so it isn’t available to all Insiders just yet as we plan to monitor feedback and see how it lands before pushing it out to everyone.]

FEEDBACK: Please file feedback in Feedback Hub (WIN + F) under Desktop Environment > Taskbar.

System Tray Updates

This update introduces updates to the System Tray that affect all device types — not just 2-in-1 devices. With this change, users will see a rounded focus and hover treatment on all icons in the lower right, due to the continued modernization of this experience.

You may also notice that it is not possible to drag and drop or rearrange your system tray icons with this change. We heard your feedback on this change earlier this year and are working to address this in a future Insider Preview build.

[We are beginning to roll this feature out, so it isn’t available to all Insiders just yet as we plan to monitor feedback and see how it lands before pushing it out to everyone.]


FEEDBACK: Please file feedback in Feedback Hub (WIN + F) under Desktop Environment > System Tray.

Changes and Improvements

[Settings]

  • We are beginning to roll out animated icons and illustrations in the Settings app. With the animated icons in the navigation bar, we continue growing our motion design principles to transform these familiar interactions from something purely functional to something that is also delightful.
Delightful new animated icons in the navigation bar of the Settings app.
Delightful new animated icons in the navigation bar of the Settings app.

[Input]

  • We are making the small tweak that began rolling out with Build 25179 to improve the key repeat rate for the traditional touch keyboard layout, as well as the default touch keyboard layout, so it feels more responsive available to all Windows Insiders in the Dev Channel. Now it has the rate of 20 keys per second (for example, when holding down the delete key).

Fixes

[System Tray Updates]

NOTE: These fixes will only show if tablet-optimized taskbar with System Tray updates is enabled on your device. Please see above for details on the tablet-optimized taskbar and System Tray updates, which is beginning to roll out to Windows Insiders and not yet available for everyone.
  • The taskbar should no longer flash because of changes in the system tray in non-tablet-optimized scenarios.
  • Fixed an issue that was causing parts of the taskbar or its icons like search to get stuck in the wrong theme’s colors when switching between light and dark themes.
  • Date and time should no longer get stuck cutting off on the side of the screen from system tray changes.

[Start]

  • Fixed a crash that users were seeing when using Start’s recommended section.

[File Explorer]

  • Fixed an issue leading to a small set of Insiders with “launch folder windows in a separate process” not being able to launch File Explorer in the last two flights due to an explorer.exe crash.
  • Did some work to help improve the performance of deleting files via File Explorer (when emptying the recycle bin or using Shift + Delete) in the case where there are a large number of files being deleted at once.

[Input]

  • Fixed an issue causing ctfmon.exe crashes for some Insiders in recent flights when words were added to your spelling dictionary.
  • Dragging the voice typing window to another monitor which has a different scaling than the originating monitor should work now instead of bouncing back.
  • Fixed a sporadic crash in recent builds when using the input switcher.
  • Fixed an issue which could lead to voice typing and other input features hanging on initialization.
  • Fixed an issue with displaying certain Sinhala words, where they were unexpectedly overlapping.

[Settings]

  • Updated the design of the lists displayed Apps > Startup Apps and Apps > Advanced App Settings > App Execution Alias pages to be more consistent with other Settings pages.
  • Fixed an issue which could lead to Settings crashing when removing devices.
  • Updated the Personal Dictionary section under Privacy & Security > Inking & Typing Personalization to now say “Custom word list”.

[Widgets]

  • Fixed an issue which was making the weather icon in the taskbar draw too high and with no text in recent flights.

[Windowing]

  • Clicking the title bar portion of a preview thumbnail in Task View should now actually switch to that app, instead of just closing Task View.
  • Fixed a sporadic explorer.exe crash which could happen when using ALT + Tab or Task View.

[Task Manager]

  • Fixed an issue impacting Task Manager reliability.
  • If graphs have been hidden on the Performance page, the circles used to identify each of the different sections should be less blurry now.

[Other]

  • Fixed an issue which could lead to hangs in certain apps when attempting to print if an IPP printer took too long to respond to the print request.
  • Fixed an issue where EnumPrinters wasn’t always returning the correct size for pcbNeeded, which could lead to hangs in certain programs.
  • Fixed a typo in the dialog displayed when Smart App Control blocked an app.
  • Fixed an issue where certain characters were missing in the boot environment when using the Chinese (Simplified) or Korean display languages, leading to square boxes in the text.
NOTE: Some fixes noted here in Insider Preview builds from the Dev Channel may make their way into the servicing updates for the released version of Windows 11.

Known issues

[General]

  • We’re looking into reports that audio stopped working for some Insiders after upgrading to the latest flights.
  • We’re investigating reports of a few different apps having started crashing in recent builds.
  • We’re investigating reports that Insiders are experiencing a bugcheck when moving their mouse in certain games
  • We’re investigating reports that some Insiders are seeing OneDrive setup asking for permission to set up every time their PC reboots.

[File Explorer]

  • We’re working on the fix for an issue where command bar items like copy, paste, and empty recycle bin may unexpectedly not be enabled when they should be.

[Settings

  • [NEW] We’re investigating some issues where uninstalling certain apps using Settings > Apps > Installed apps isn’t working correctly.

[Tablet-optimized taskbar]

  • [NEW] The taskbar sometimes flashes when transitioning between desktop posture and tablet posture.
  • [NEW] The taskbar takes longer than expected to transition to the touch-optimized version when switching between desktop posture and tablet posture.
  • [NEW] Using the left or right edge gestures can result in the Widgets or Notification Center (respectively) to overlap with or look truncated by the taskbar.
  • [NEW] When using the bottom right edge gesture to see Quick Settings, the taskbar sometimes stays stuck in the expanded state, instead of dismissing to collapsed state.
  • [NEW] When there are no running windows on the desktop, the taskbar can sometimes collapse, when it should be expanded.

[Widgets]

  • Notification badge number may appear misaligned on the taskbar.
  • In some cases, the notification banner for some badging will not appear in the widgets board.

App Updates

We are rolling out the following app updates to Windows Insiders in the Dev Channel.

Calculator (Version 11.2208.1.0): We have added native Arm64 support to Calculator. You’ll see faster and better performance when you use the app on Arm64 devices.

Media Player (Version 11.2208.22.0): We have added the ability to edit video files in Clipchamp with a new “Edit with Clipchamp” action available when you right-click a video in your library and in the lower-right corner of the video player UI under more options (…) when playing a video file.


The “Edit with Clipchamp” option under the more options (…) button in Media Player.
The “Edit with Clipchamp” option under the more options (…) button in Media Player.

For developers

You can download the latest Windows Insider SDK at aka.ms/windowsinsidersdk.

SDK NuGet packages are now also flighting at NuGet Gallery | WindowsSDK which include:
These NuGet packages provide more granular access to the SDK and better integration in CI/CD pipelines.

About the Dev Channel

The Dev Channel receives builds that represent long lead work from our engineers with features and experiences that may never get released as we try out different concepts and get feedback. It is important to remember that the builds we release to the Dev Channel should not be seen as matched to any specific release of Windows and the features included may change over time, be removed, or replaced in Insider builds or may never be released beyond Windows Insiders to general customers. For more information, please read this blog post about how we plan to use the Dev Channel to incubate new ideas, work on long lead items, and control the states of individual features.

These aren’t always stable builds, and sometimes you will see issues that block key activities or require workarounds. It is important to make sure you read the known issues listed in our blog posts as we document many of these issues with each flight.

Build numbers are higher in the Dev Channel than the Windows 11 preview builds in the Beta and Release Preview Channels. You will not be able to switch from the Dev Channel to the Beta or Release Preview Channels without doing a clean install back to the released version of Windows 11 currently.

ALSO: Because the Dev and Beta Channels represent parallel development paths from our engineers, there may be cases where features and experiences show up in the Beta Channel first.

The desktop watermark you see at the lower right corner of your desktop is normal for these pre-release builds.

Important Insider Links

Thanks,
Amanda & Brandon

Source:

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ISO from Microsoft:


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    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
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Getting it now
 

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Tablet-optimized taskbar

We’re re-introducing the touch-optimized taskbar that’s designed to make you feel more confident and comfortable using your device as a tablet. Your taskbar will automatically transition to this optimized version when you disconnect or fold back the keyboard on your 2-in-1 device. This feature only works on devices that can be used as tablets. It does not work on laptops or desktop PCs.
Welcome back. (y)

This feature was the one thing that prompted me to start testing the Beta builds in my little Lenovo Yoga 2-in-1 back in April. I found it to be a useful feature and was disappointed when it was removed later. I have that machine on the RP build now which is nice and stable, not sure I'd want to switch to Dev just to get this back, though :wink:
 

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    Windows 11 Home
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    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
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    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
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    Radeon Graphics
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    laptop screen
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    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
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    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
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    Dell Lattitude E4310
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    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
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    0T6M8G
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    8GB
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    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
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    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
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    Antivirus
    Defender
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    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
Downloading and installing now.
 

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    Asus Prime x370 Pro
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    Samsung UHD 27 inch
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    850 watt consair RM850X
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    Lian Li LANCOOL ONE tempered glass RGB gaming case
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    Ares m.2 gaming optical mouse
    Keyboard
    Ares m.2 gaming keyboard
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    Firefox / Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows defender
    Other Info
    With all this gaming rig I am not a gamer!
Updated just fine, just didn't get the new animated icons.
 

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    Chrome _ Edge _ Firefox _ Opera
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Ugh. The last few builds including this one I had to update twice via Windows Update for it to succeed.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
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    PC/Desktop
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    Custom self build
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
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    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
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    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
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    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING (11GB GDDR5X)
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    2 x Samsung Odyssey G75 27"
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    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
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    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
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    Thermaltake Core P3 wall mounted
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    Corsair Hydro H115i
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    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
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    Google Chrome
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    Microsoft Defender and Malwarebytes Premium
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    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
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    HP Spectre x360 2in1 14-eu0098nr (2024)
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    Intel Core Ultra 7 155H 4.8 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB LPDDR5x-7467 MHz
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    Integrated Intel Arc
    Sound Card
    Poly Studio
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    14" 2.8K OLED multitouch
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    2880 x 1800
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    2 TB PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD
    Internet Speed
    Intel Wi-Fi 7 BE200 (2x2) and Bluetooth 5.4
    Browser
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    Antivirus
    Windows Defender and Malwarebytes Premium
Ugh. The last few builds including this one I had to update twice via Windows Update for it to succeed.
Is this for DEV or for other builds (RP, BETA)?
 

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    iBuyPower (special build)
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    AMD Ryzen 7X
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x370 Pro
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    64Gb
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    Radeon RX 480 8Gb
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    Samsung UHD 27 inch
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    32 Gb
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    Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB GDDR6X
    Sound Card
    3D PREMIUM surround sound onboard
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    Samsung 32 inch UHD curved monitor
    Screen Resolution
    UHD
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 pro 2 tb gen 4 NVMe ssd
    PSU
    850 watt consair RM850X
    Case
    Lian Li LANCOOL ONE tempered glass RGB gaming case
    Cooling
    DEEPCOOL GAMERSTORM RGB 240 mm CASTLE 240EX liquid cooler
    Mouse
    Ares m.2 gaming optical mouse
    Keyboard
    Ares m.2 gaming keyboard
    Internet Speed
    450
    Browser
    Firefox / Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows defender
    Other Info
    With all this gaming rig I am not a gamer!
Is this for DEV or for other builds (RP, BETA)?

Correct, only for the DEV builds.

The other builds I have are on VMs that install without issue.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom self build
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING (11GB GDDR5X)
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G75 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3 wall mounted
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1 Gbps Download and 35 Mbps Upload
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender and Malwarebytes Premium
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Spectre x360 2in1 14-eu0098nr (2024)
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 7 155H 4.8 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB LPDDR5x-7467 MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Integrated Intel Arc
    Sound Card
    Poly Studio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" 2.8K OLED multitouch
    Screen Resolution
    2880 x 1800
    Hard Drives
    2 TB PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD
    Internet Speed
    Intel Wi-Fi 7 BE200 (2x2) and Bluetooth 5.4
    Browser
    Chrome and Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender and Malwarebytes Premium
You may also notice that it is not possible to drag and drop or rearrange your system tray icons with this change. We heard your feedback on this change earlier this year and are working to address this in a future Insider Preview build.

Ughh - one step forward, two steps back. Have the MS Developers no sense of pride in doing a job properly!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0
Screenshot 2022-09-09 004615.png
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro Insider Canary Ver 24H2( OS Build :26100.1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Build Aswin😂😂👍
    CPU
    i9-9900 8C/16T Coffee Lake
    Motherboard
    MSI-B360 Gaming Pro Carbon-ATX(update bios 2D2(2021) to 2D0 (2022)
    Memory
    (2 x 8 GB) 16 GB DDR-4 @3000 Mhz Patriot Viper
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidea GTX-1060 6 GB Galax : hdmi 2.0b and Dp.14
    Sound Card
    Speaker(Realtek audio)(standby) and Lg Speaker build in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Monitors LG TV 43 inch 43NANO75TPA,(4K,60 Hz,WCG,HLG,HDR10+): Hdmi 2.0b x3
    Screen Resolution
    Desktop mode 4096 x 2160/60 Hz Active Signal Mode 4096 x 2160/60 Hz,HDR Enable: Destop Mode 4096x2160/60Hz Active Signal Mode 4096 x2160/60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    1.M2.Nvme SSD Gen 3 x4,1 TB KYO Utimate K350 (OS) with heat sink 2.M2.Nvme SSD gen 3 x 4-512 GB KYO ULTIMATE K350 with heat Sink 3. SSD SATA 500 GB WD 4.SSD SATA120 GB Kingston....5. HDD 1TB Seagate
    PSU
    650 w + 80 bronze Gamemax
    Case
    Aigo DarkFlash phantom ATX(with 8 RGB Fans(4 Front+ 2 Rear (exhaust)+ 2 bottom side) DR 12) Tempered glass -Full Tower.
    Cooling
    AIO gamemax(CPU liquid cooler) L240 RGB-Top side(exhaust)
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    logitech
    Internet Speed
    Cable LAN CAT 6 E(25 meters) ,TP-link switch adapter 5 ports 1000/1000 Mbps Download 184 Mbps Upload 98 Mbps, Intel® I219-V Gigabit LAN controller
    Browser
    edge stable
    Antivirus
    MS defender A/V
    Other Info
    This PC on second floor, GPON ONT (optic network terminal ISP term) on ist floor
    2021
    add 2 fans 120 mm in bottom side😊👍.oct
    2022
    Replace TP link switch adapter 100/100 to 1000/1000 may
    2023 jan
    detected 1 Ram 3200 Mhz Hyper X kingston problem -> replace both with patriot DDR4 3000 Mhz from ex i7-9700😁
    2023 jan
    update bios 2D2(2021) --->> 2D0 (2022)
    2023 March
    Change storage : SSD SATA ------>>>>M2.NVme SSD (OS)
    2023 April
    Change storage for OS Nvme 512GB ---->>> 1TB
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro Canary Ver 24H2 OS build :26100.1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Nitro AN515-54
    CPU
    Intel core i5-9300H CPU@2.4 GHz 4C/8T Coffee Lake
    Motherboard
    Manufacturer CFL , Model Octavia_CFS , Bios Version V1.33( 11/17/2020)
    Memory
    DDR4 16 GB 2 x 8 GB, 2666 Mhz Sk Hynix- Jedec 11 : CL : 20-19-19-43-61/1.2 V
    Graphics card(s)
    1. Intel graphic UHD 630 2. Nvidea Geforce GTX 1650 , 4 GB
    Sound Card
    1.Realtek Version 6.0.8929.1 2. NVIDIA Version 4.39.0.0 ( Virtual Audio Device ( Wave Extensible) (WDM)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1.M2.Nvme SSD gen 3 x 4-512 GB(OS) XPG SX8200 Pro with Heatsink 2. M2. SATA 240 GB 3. HDD 1 TB
    PSU
    Acer
    Case
    Acer
    Cooling
    Double Cooling Fans
    Mouse
    Optical mouse(FO)
    Keyboard
    1.Acer 2.Votre(wired)
    Internet Speed
    1. Cable Lan Cat 6E (25 meters) 2. Intel Wireless-AC 9560 160 Mhz 3. Realtek Gaming GBe Family cont (RJ45). TP-link switch adapter 1000/1000 Mbps Download : 187 Mbps Upload : 87 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge Stable
    Antivirus
    MS A/V
    Other Info
    This Laptop on second Floor , GPON ONT(optic network terminal ISP term ) on 1st Floor
    2022
    1. Upgraded from Windows 11 Home to Pro------May
    2. Replace TP link switch adapter 100/100 to 1000/1000→→→May
    2023
    3.Repale Storage(OS) from SATA to NVME---->> Feb
    4. ugrade ram 12 GB to 16 GB------>>>>April
You may also notice that it is not possible to drag and drop or rearrange your system tray icons with this change. We heard your feedback on this change earlier this year and are working to address this in a future Insider Preview build.

Ughh - one step forward, two steps back. Have the MS Developers no sense of pride in doing a job properly!
I just did both - desktop icons drag and drop and system tray icons drag and rearrange - maybe I missed the point.
Also able to drag file and folder from app and place on desktop and return it to its folder/app.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    windows 10 & 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    iBuyPower (special build)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7X
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x370 Pro
    Memory
    64Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon RX 480 8Gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung UHD 27 inch
    Screen Resolution
    UHD
    Hard Drives
    3 Samsung 1 TB SSD each; 1 Samsung PCIe M.2 at 2 TB
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    IBuyPower
    CPU
    AMD 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    Asus x570 ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero WI-FI 6E ARGB
    Memory
    32 Gb
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB GDDR6X
    Sound Card
    3D PREMIUM surround sound onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 32 inch UHD curved monitor
    Screen Resolution
    UHD
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 pro 2 tb gen 4 NVMe ssd
    PSU
    850 watt consair RM850X
    Case
    Lian Li LANCOOL ONE tempered glass RGB gaming case
    Cooling
    DEEPCOOL GAMERSTORM RGB 240 mm CASTLE 240EX liquid cooler
    Mouse
    Ares m.2 gaming optical mouse
    Keyboard
    Ares m.2 gaming keyboard
    Internet Speed
    450
    Browser
    Firefox / Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows defender
    Other Info
    With all this gaming rig I am not a gamer!
I just did both - desktop icons drag and drop and system tray icons drag and rearrange - maybe I missed the point.
I interpreted it as saying not all users get the updates (Stupid Amanda / Brandon testing). So if you get the updates, it will not drag and drop to rearrange?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0
Welcome back. (y)

This feature was the one thing that prompted me to start testing the Beta builds in my little Lenovo Yoga 2-in-1 back in April. I found it to be a useful feature and was disappointed when it was removed later. I have that machine on the RP build now which is nice and stable, not sure I'd want to switch to Dev just to get this back, though :wink:
As long as they do this separate just for the tablet mode is fine, last time they screwed up the desktop in the process. 🤣
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Yoga 920
    CPU
    Intel I7-8550U
    Motherboard
    n/a
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Graphics UHD 620
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (SST)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k Touch screen
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
installed with no issues 45 minuterScreenshot 2022-09-08 191722.png
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 25309
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5800X
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B450-F
    Memory
    16 Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GTX 3060
    Sound Card
    onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1 x 27" Philips & 2 x 24" LG
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    970 EVO 250 Gb NVMe
    950 EVO 250 M.2
    4 TB internal
    4 Tb internal
    2 TB external
    2 TB External
    500Mb External
    PSU
    Corsair RM750W
    Case
    Modified Corsair
    Cooling
    Standard boxed fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Vertical
    Internet Speed
    390 Gb
    Browser
    Firefox, Brave
    Antivirus
    Win Defender
Ugh. The last few builds including this one I had to update twice via Windows Update for it to succeed.
I had that problem last week when I updated. I hope this one updates on the first try.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
I interpreted it as saying not all users get the updates (Stupid Amanda / Brandon testing). So if you get the updates, it will not drag and drop to rearrange?
Well I did update. And I checked winver it did update.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    windows 10 & 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    iBuyPower (special build)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7X
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x370 Pro
    Memory
    64Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon RX 480 8Gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung UHD 27 inch
    Screen Resolution
    UHD
    Hard Drives
    3 Samsung 1 TB SSD each; 1 Samsung PCIe M.2 at 2 TB
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    IBuyPower
    CPU
    AMD 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    Asus x570 ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero WI-FI 6E ARGB
    Memory
    32 Gb
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB GDDR6X
    Sound Card
    3D PREMIUM surround sound onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 32 inch UHD curved monitor
    Screen Resolution
    UHD
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 pro 2 tb gen 4 NVMe ssd
    PSU
    850 watt consair RM850X
    Case
    Lian Li LANCOOL ONE tempered glass RGB gaming case
    Cooling
    DEEPCOOL GAMERSTORM RGB 240 mm CASTLE 240EX liquid cooler
    Mouse
    Ares m.2 gaming optical mouse
    Keyboard
    Ares m.2 gaming keyboard
    Internet Speed
    450
    Browser
    Firefox / Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows defender
    Other Info
    With all this gaming rig I am not a gamer!
Ugh. The last few builds including this one I had to update twice via Windows Update for it to succeed.
When I started having this issue (somewhat sporadically) I just began using the ISO method, have not had an issue since
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 23H2 (Canary on secondary boxes)
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