Windows 11 installed without all partitions?


Kaizen777

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I have two SSDs in my system.
A 2TB that was my main Win11 drive previously.
A 4TB I recently installed.
I cloned the 2TB to the 4TB and used the 4TB as my main Win11 drive.
I left the clone on the 2TB drive for backup purposes, with no issues.

Yesterday I decided to do a fresh install of Windows 11 on my 4TB SSD.
Everything seemed to go okay. During setup I erased all the partitions on the 4TB SSD.

I now get a boot menu asking me which drive with Win11 to load.

My question / concern is, the 4TB SSD only has two partitions:

Partition ### Type Size Offset
------------- ---------------- ------- -------
Partition 1 Reserved 16 MB 1024 KB
Partition 2 Primary 3726 GB 17 MB

The 2TB SSD has four!

Partition ### Type Size Offset
------------- ---------------- ------- -------
Partition 1 System 100 MB 1024 KB
Partition 2 Reserved 16 MB 101 MB
Partition 3 Primary 1862 GB 117 MB
Partition 4 Recovery 718 MB 1862 GB

How is it that Win11 seems to be running fine with the two partitions?
Shouldn't I be concerned about this, no recovery partition for the 4TB drive?
Is there a way to fix this without reinstalling Win11 again? Even then, I didn't see how to coax it to make all the partitions, it did what it did.

Thanks!
 

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Shouldn't I be concerned about this, no recovery partition for the 4TB drive?
Not if you instigate a proper image style regular backup regime.
 

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    Windows 11 22H2 (latest update ... forever anal)
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    Intel i5-12400
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    NVIDIA GeForce GT730
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Fair, what scared me in the first place was that Macrium Reflect gives me this warning. Can I just restore the windows partition in a pinch and not worry about the rest?

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Not if you instigate a proper image style regular backup regime.
 

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    Ryzen 5950X
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    Asus Rog Crosshair Dark Hero X570
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    Zotac RTX 4090 Airo Extreme
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    Samsung Q900TS
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    8K
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    WD SN850X 4TB
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    EVGA 1200W Platinum
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    Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL
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@Kaizen777



Open a command prompt as Admin, and run these commands...

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And please post a screen shot of Disk Management stretched out so we can read everything... like so...


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    Dell U3011 30"
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    2560 x 1600
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    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
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    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
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    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
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    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
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    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
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    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
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    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
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    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
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    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
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    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
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    Firefox 3.x ??
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    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
Fair, what scared me in the first place was that Macrium Reflect gives me this warning. Can I just restore the windows partition in a pinch and not worry about the rest?
Are you backing up the entire drive or just selected partitions. I have deleted my recovery partition and don't get that message from MReflect.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 22H2 (latest update ... forever anal)
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    PC/Desktop
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    HP Slim S01
    CPU
    Intel i5-12400
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT730
    Sound Card
    OOBE
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    Acer 32"
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    1920x1080
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    512GB KIOXIA NVMe
    1TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    OOBE
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    OOBE
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    OOBE
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    BT
    Mouse
    BT
    Browser
    Brave FFox Chrome Opera
    Antivirus
    KIS
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    Windows 11 Pro (latest upadte ... anally always)
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    Laptop
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    HP Pavillion 15
    CPU
    i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Hard Drives
    Samsung NVMe 512GB
    + numerous/multiple SSD Type C USB enclosures
    Internet Speed
    NBN FTTN 50
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    KIS
Are you backing up the entire drive or just selected partitions. I have deleted my recovery partition and don't get that message from MReflect.


Same. A clone should have been an exact one to one copy.
A backup should include all the partitions required to "boot" Windows.
 

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    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3880 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
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    PC/Desktop
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    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
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    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
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    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
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    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
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    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
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    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
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    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
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    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
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    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
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    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
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    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
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    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
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    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
Yesterday I decided to do a fresh install of Windows 11 on my 4TB SSD.
Everything seemed to go okay. During setup I erased all the partitions on the 4TB SSD.



When you did the clean install, you should have (if possible) disconnected all other drives.
That way, the clean install will have all four partitions.

I believe what happened is that when you did the clean install... the Windows installer decided to use the EFI System partition (and the Recovery partition), of the 2TB drive, which is why you don't see it on the 4TB drive.

The only partitions "required" to boot Windows are the Windows partition and the EFI System partition.



The reason we want our backups to have all partitions required to boot Windows... is so that if Windows won't boot, we can restore from our backup... and it will... boot. :-)
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3880 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
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    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
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    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
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    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
Retry as image > restore then use Minitool to re-size the non-systems partitions to suit the larger drive

Edit On the clean install event, was it really a clean install? Did you physically delete all the old partitions off the drive leaving it totally in an "unallocated" state before commencing the clean install??
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 22H2 (latest update ... forever anal)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Slim S01
    CPU
    Intel i5-12400
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT730
    Sound Card
    OOBE
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 32"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    512GB KIOXIA NVMe
    1TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    OOBE
    Case
    OOBE
    Cooling
    OOBE
    Keyboard
    BT
    Mouse
    BT
    Browser
    Brave FFox Chrome Opera
    Antivirus
    KIS
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro (latest upadte ... anally always)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion 15
    CPU
    i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Hard Drives
    Samsung NVMe 512GB
    + numerous/multiple SSD Type C USB enclosures
    Internet Speed
    NBN FTTN 50
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    KIS
When you did the clean install, you should have (if possible) disconnected all other drives.
That way, the clean install will have all four partitions.

I believe what happened is that when you did the clean install... the Windows installer decided to use the EFI System partition (and the Recovery partition), of the 2TB drive, which is why you don't see it on the 4TB drive.
Aaah!! Doh!! Of course, this ... ^^^^^
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 22H2 (latest update ... forever anal)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Slim S01
    CPU
    Intel i5-12400
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT730
    Sound Card
    OOBE
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 32"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    512GB KIOXIA NVMe
    1TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    OOBE
    Case
    OOBE
    Cooling
    OOBE
    Keyboard
    BT
    Mouse
    BT
    Browser
    Brave FFox Chrome Opera
    Antivirus
    KIS
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro (latest upadte ... anally always)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion 15
    CPU
    i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Hard Drives
    Samsung NVMe 512GB
    + numerous/multiple SSD Type C USB enclosures
    Internet Speed
    NBN FTTN 50
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    KIS
Did you physically delete all the old partitions off the drive leaving it totally in an "unallocated" state before commencing the clean install??


Yes he did. See the first post. :-)


Yesterday I decided to do a fresh install of Windows 11 on my 4TB SSD.
Everything seemed to go okay. During setup I erased all the partitions on the 4TB SSD.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3880 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
It is not a big issue. reagentc -disable then create an esp partition on the 4tb and populate it using bcdboot command. Optionally create a ms recovery partition on the 4tb then reagentc -enable.
 

My Computers

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  • OS
    Win7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i5-8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    benq gw2480
    PSU
    bequiet pure power 11 400CM
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
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    win7
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    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    pentium g5400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    1x8gb 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450
Without a screenshot of disk management, it's impossible to tell for sure but I'm betting it saw the EFI partition on the second drive and wrote your BCD to that drive rather than creating an EFI partition on the drive you installed windows on and writing BCD to the C: partition of your system drive where it belongs.. This is why you never do a clean install without removing all drives except what will be your system drive.. There are many threads here about it. See step 2 here Clean Install Windows 11 Tutorial
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3880
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External +512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
It started with Windows 7 and ever since - in one fashion or another - Windows has continued this habit during installation of leaving its hand/footprint on any other connected drive

I use the analogy of a little puppy in the park, if there's more than one tree around, Fido will find the others and leave his mark. The only way to prevent this to remove all the other trees and maintain a tight leash. My process is also to create a small partition (50GB Win 10, 60GB Win 11) in which to install the initial basic setup.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 22H2 (latest update ... forever anal)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Slim S01
    CPU
    Intel i5-12400
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT730
    Sound Card
    OOBE
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 32"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    512GB KIOXIA NVMe
    1TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    OOBE
    Case
    OOBE
    Cooling
    OOBE
    Keyboard
    BT
    Mouse
    BT
    Browser
    Brave FFox Chrome Opera
    Antivirus
    KIS
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro (latest upadte ... anally always)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion 15
    CPU
    i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Hard Drives
    Samsung NVMe 512GB
    + numerous/multiple SSD Type C USB enclosures
    Internet Speed
    NBN FTTN 50
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    KIS
@Ghot

Strange that this shows 0 B free on disk 2 when Windows shows 3.45 TB free.
My new Win 11 install is on disk 2. The old one is disk 3.

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Also strange that disk management doesn't show the 16MB reserved partition on Disk 2 that diskpart shows (listed on my initial post)

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Ryzen 5950X
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Crosshair Dark Hero X570
    Memory
    128GB Corsair Vengeance RT
    Graphics Card(s)
    Zotac RTX 4090 Airo Extreme
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung Q900TS
    Screen Resolution
    8K
    Hard Drives
    WD SN850X 4TB
    WD SN850 2TB
    Seagate EXOS 18TB
    PSU
    EVGA 1200W Platinum
    Case
    Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL
    Cooling
    Corsair QT fans (10), EK AIO 360MM radiator
    Keyboard
    Corsair K100
@Kaizen777

Yep... the Windows Install on the 4TB drive, is using the EFI System partition on the 2TB drive.
And the 2TB drive's Recovery partition as well.

You can fix it all by temporarily unhooking Disk 0, 1, 3 and reinstalling (clean install), Win 11 on the 4TB drive.
The way it is now... if you ever format the 2TB... the 4TB will no longer boot.


Disk Management is a little bit dumbed down by Microsoft.
Most of us use this... it will show you everything. :-)

 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3880 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
1) What is your preferred drive for Windows?
a) the faster drive
b) the larger drive


2) Run disk par info > post a share link




3) Disk management does not typically display hidden partitions (the reserved partition).


4) Run each > post share links
a) Crystal disk info
b) Crystal disk mark


 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
    Motherboard
    Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
    Memory
    16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
    Hard Drives
    Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Mobile Workstation
Thank you all for your responses!
I had this thought myself, that perhaps the new install was leaning on my previous install somehow.
Seems they are now joined at the hip!
I would have removed the other drive, it's just that these are both M.2 and that's a hassle.
I will do it again if needed, but I have most of my core programs installed and everything is working beautifully.

ChatGPT 4 told me I can create an EFI partition with these steps. Does this look legit or is it hallucinating (as it often does)?

"Given your scenario, where you have Windows 11 installed on a second SSD and it boots correctly, but lacks an EFI partition, you can indeed create an EFI partition on the second SSD. Since your system is already booting, it's likely using the EFI partition from the first SSD. To ensure your current Windows 11 installation can boot independently, you'll need to create an EFI partition on the second SSD and configure the bootloader. Here's how you can do it:

  1. Check for Existing EFI Partition:
    • First, ensure there is indeed no EFI partition on the second SSD. You can check this by opening Disk Management (diskmgmt.msc) and looking for a small partition (usually 100-500 MB) formatted as FAT32 on the second SSD.
  2. Shrink an Existing Partition (if necessary):
    • If there's no unallocated space on the second SSD, you'll need to shrink an existing partition to create space for the EFI partition. You can do this in Disk Management by right-clicking on a partition and selecting "Shrink Volume". Ideally, you need around 100-500 MB of space.
  3. Create the EFI Partition:
    • Since Windows Disk Management does not allow creating EFI partitions directly, you’ll need to use a command-line tool. Open Command Prompt as administrator and use diskpart.
      luaCopy code
      diskpart
      list disk
      select disk X (X is the number of your second SSD)
      create partition efi size=100
      format quick fs=fat32
      assign letter=S
      exit
  4. Copy EFI Data to the New EFI Partition:
    • Now, you need to copy the EFI data from the existing EFI partition on the first SSD to the new EFI partition on the second SSD. You can use a tool like Robocopy from an elevated Command Prompt:
      sqlCopy code
      robocopy X:\EFI S:\EFI /E (replace X: with the letter of the current EFI partition)
  5. Configure the Bootloader:
    • Use the bcdboot command to copy boot files to the new EFI partition and update the BCD store:
      bashCopy code
      bcdboot C:\Windows /s S: /f UEFI (replace C: with the drive letter where Windows is installed)"
  6. Update the BIOS Boot Order:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Ryzen 5950X
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Crosshair Dark Hero X570
    Memory
    128GB Corsair Vengeance RT
    Graphics Card(s)
    Zotac RTX 4090 Airo Extreme
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung Q900TS
    Screen Resolution
    8K
    Hard Drives
    WD SN850X 4TB
    WD SN850 2TB
    Seagate EXOS 18TB
    PSU
    EVGA 1200W Platinum
    Case
    Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL
    Cooling
    Corsair QT fans (10), EK AIO 360MM radiator
    Keyboard
    Corsair K100
ChatGPT 4 told me I can create an EFI partition with these steps


Good enough.
I believe that @SIW2 can assist with ChatGPT's advice if needed.
He, among others, is familiar with that process. :-)
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3880 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
1) What is your preferred drive for Windows?
a) the faster drive
b) the larger drive


2) Run disk par info > post a share link




3) Disk management does not typically display hidden partitions (the reserved partition).


4) Run each > post share links
a) Crystal disk info
b) Crystal disk mark



1) The larger SSD is the faster one ; )
Here is this, I will work on the rest...
 

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Ryzen 5950X
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Crosshair Dark Hero X570
    Memory
    128GB Corsair Vengeance RT
    Graphics Card(s)
    Zotac RTX 4090 Airo Extreme
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung Q900TS
    Screen Resolution
    8K
    Hard Drives
    WD SN850X 4TB
    WD SN850 2TB
    Seagate EXOS 18TB
    PSU
    EVGA 1200W Platinum
    Case
    Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL
    Cooling
    Corsair QT fans (10), EK AIO 360MM radiator
    Keyboard
    Corsair K100
Good enough.
I believe that @SIW2 can assist with ChatGPT's advice if needed.
He, among others, is familiar with that process. :-)

That, or perhaps I can image my new Win11 partition to another drive, disconnect the other Win11 drive, reinstall Win11 on this drive (ensuring the EFI partition is created this time), reconnect the other Win11 drive, boot into that one, replace the new Win11 partition with the one I imaged? Not sure if that would work. Perhaps that is more difficult than the ChatGPT suggestion.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Ryzen 5950X
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Crosshair Dark Hero X570
    Memory
    128GB Corsair Vengeance RT
    Graphics Card(s)
    Zotac RTX 4090 Airo Extreme
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung Q900TS
    Screen Resolution
    8K
    Hard Drives
    WD SN850X 4TB
    WD SN850 2TB
    Seagate EXOS 18TB
    PSU
    EVGA 1200W Platinum
    Case
    Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL
    Cooling
    Corsair QT fans (10), EK AIO 360MM radiator
    Keyboard
    Corsair K100

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