Windows 11 long boot times

anito9999 · Feb 6, 2022

Hi There,

I have had these weird long BOOT times even though I have had some good SSDs have had it Since I was on Windows 10 and have been carried over to Windows 11 when the update came in this computer is a Workstation that I use for Work and gaming and has plenty of HDDs so I am not sure if that could affect boot times but I have had this issue across multiple SSDs.

I had it with my 500GB Crucial Sata SSD so I upgraded to a PCI-E Intel 750 400GB boot-up times remained the same I have upgraded again to a Samsung 980Pro NVME but my boot times have actually increased I always used Acronis True Image that came free with my Crucial Drive to clone my OS to a new drive fast boot works well when it works but cold boot and restarts take several minutes which doesn't make sense, especially with this new drive.

my Specs are Ryzen 5800X, 64GB DDR4 3200 9HDDs and 1TB Samsung 980 Pro, and 1TB Kingston A2000.

I can't afford to do a clean install as it would take too much time to re-install all my apps and settings.

I have ran a boot trace and I have tried to look at it with Windows Performance Analyzer but I don't have any idea what I need to look and looking at guides online doesn't help either.

if anyone can help me, please. (posted this in the Windows 10 forums but was asked to repost it here as I have Windows 11)

boot-up speed is the same even on Safe mode already tried removing the Drives didn't change a thing.
Already tried to do a clean boot but still no changes, the system stays at the Windows LOGO and the spinning circle for a very long time spinning circle spins up to 20 times or more.

let me know what settings I need to choose for the Windows performance recorder in order to get the file size down as much as possible in case you guys need my ETL file.

disabling Fastboot/Hibernation made it slightly faster but nowhere near what I used to get on Windows 10 1607 first noticed long boot times after updating to 1703 and it has only gotten worst since then just kept ignoring it as I thought I only needed a better SSD I honestly spent the extra money to get a Gen4 SSD just to get my boot times under control but was not expecting no improvements at all.

all my drives are healthy and has a good status according to Crystal Disk Mark.

FreeBooter · Feb 7, 2022

Make sure to uninstall and install the newest versions of device drivers.

Please type the below command into Command Prompt to schedule check disk and press Enter key.

Following command will fix errors on the disk and locates bad sectors and recovers readable information.

Code:

Chkdsk C: /r

Please type the bellow commands into Command Prompt one at a time and press Enter key.

The following command scans integrity of all protected Windows system files and repairs files with problems when possible.

Code:

dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth

Sfc  /Scannow

Malwarebytes' scanner
If this program is already installed: Skip the installation and run only the scan!
Download and install: Please download Malwarebytes' scanner to your desktop.

Double-click mb3-setup-consumer-3.x.x.xxxx and follow the prompts to install the program.
Click Finish.
On the Dashboard, click the 'Check for Updates' button.
After the update completes, click the 'Scan Now' button.
A Threat Scan will begin. Please allow it to progress through the scanning process.
When the scan is complete, if there have been detections, click Quarantines Selected button to allow the program to clean what was detected.
In most cases, a restart will be required.
Wait for the prompt to restart the computer to appear, then click on Yes.

How to get logs: (Export log to save as txt)

After the restart once you are back at your desktop, open Malwarebytes once more.
Click on the Reports tab > Scan Report. (if you have done more than one scan in the past, select the most recent that shows the Date and time of the scan just performed. Press View Report button.
Click 'Export'.
Click 'Text file (*.txt)'
In the Save File dialog box which appears, click on Desktop.
In the File name: box type a name for your scan log.
A message box named 'File Saved' should appear stating "Your file has been successfully exported".
Click Ok
Find the log on your Desktop and Attach that saved log to your next reply.

(Copy to clipboard for pasting into forum replies or tickets)

You can also try repair install Windows 11 without losing anything.

Repair Install Windows 11 with an In-place Upgrade

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anito9999 · Feb 7, 2022

I have already ran a Checkdisk /r and I have already ran this dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth and this Sfc /Scannow and have done so multiple times now and they always found no errors all my drivers are already the latest available from ASUS and Nvidia.

Malwarebytes and Super anti spyware always find nothing but cookies that I always select to be deleted and no spyware is found.

I really think it is a driver issue and one that Windows auto installs and not one from the manufacturer and I think everything that I need to know can be found on a boot trace but because of my large RAM size the ETL file is around 4OGB uncompressed and is at 1.9GB compressed and I have no idea what to look for using the Windows performance analyzer so I am a bit stuck.

someone from the Windows 10 forums told me that I can change some settings to make the ETL file smaller so that it can be easier to share but he never actually told me what I needed to change with the settings of the Windows performance recorder to get it smaller.

FreeBooter · Feb 7, 2022

You said even booting to Safe Mode slow, have you reset BIOS to factory default settings to see problem resolves.

anito9999 · Feb 7, 2022

FreeBooter said:
You said even booting to Safe Mode slow, have you reset BIOS to factory default settings to see problem resolves.

Resetting the BIOS settings does nothing have had the issue for years now as explained in my original post This motherboard, processor and SSD are all new have had the issue with my original Asus ROG X370 Gaming-f and Ryzen 3700X system which I just upgraded from the SSD itself is just a few weeks old so there are no bad sectors it is a Samsung 980 pro. doing an upgrade install of Windows 11 does not fix it either.

This is why I really need someone to look at my boot trace as I feel that is my only hope in finding the cause of my long boot times.

FreeBooter · Feb 7, 2022

If you open the command prompt and simply type PERFMON and then from Performance Monitor window look under Reports to view the system performance report.

Also check Event Viewer.

zbook · Feb 7, 2022

Please run V2 and upload results directly into this thread:

BSOD - Posting Instructions

BSOD - Posting Instructions This will show you how to help provide needed information about your system and dump files. It will not contain any personal or sensitive information about you or your data. To get better help with your Windows BSOD issue, please read these instructions and follow...

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Run:

https://www.tenforums.com/attachments/bsod-crashes-debugging/346094d1631611972-post-problem-reports-here-batch-files-use-bsod-debugging-collect_logs_from_event_viewer-2021-09-14.bat

https://www.tenforums.com/attachmen...-files-use-bsod-debugging-tuneup_plus_log.zip

Post a full box image of task manager > startup tab

For any problems posting images please use share links: one drive, drop box, or google drive

After posting the above log files and images:

Open administrative command prompt and type or copy and paste:

net user test /add
shutdown /r

Report the boot time with the new user named test.

zbook · Feb 7, 2022

Approximately 45 minutes passed without a reply.

Heading to bed.

When available please post results from post #7.

DigitalGoat · Feb 7, 2022

Midway down this page, options to 'lighten' the performance report:
How to collect a good boot trace on Windows 10 or Windows Server 2016 using WPRUI.

anito9999 · Feb 7, 2022

zbook said:
Please run V2 and upload results directly into this thread:

BSOD - Posting Instructions

BSOD - Posting Instructions This will show you how to help provide needed information about your system and dump files. It will not contain any personal or sensitive information about you or your data. To get better help with your Windows BSOD issue, please read these instructions and follow...

www.elevenforum.com

Run:

https://www.tenforums.com/attachments/bsod-crashes-debugging/346094d1631611972-post-problem-reports-here-batch-files-use-bsod-debugging-collect_logs_from_event_viewer-2021-09-14.bat

https://www.tenforums.com/attachmen...-files-use-bsod-debugging-tuneup_plus_log.zip

Post a full box image of task manager > startup tab

For any problems posting images please use share links: one drive, drop box, or google drive

After posting the above log files and images:

Open administrative command prompt and type or copy and paste:

net user test /add
shutdown /r

Report the boot time with the new user named test.

Hello here are your requested log files and screenshots.
I have also tried adding new users but boot times are still not changing.

Event logs were over 2MB and are getting a message it is too big to attach so I uploaded it in google drive instead.

Event_logs-(2022-02-08_01-19-58).7z

drive.google.com

zbook · Feb 7, 2022

When available please post a link for V2.

The event log was not able to be viewed.

Please run the event script and post new links.

First scannow:

Code:

Windows Resource Protection found corrupt files and successfully repaired them.

Second scannow:

Code:

Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations.

Code:

2022-02-08 01:25:04, Info                  CSI    0000021c [SR] Repairing 1 components
2022-02-08 01:25:04, Info                  CSI    0000021f [SR] Repairing file \??\C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.0.3705\\mscormmc.dll from store

The BIOS boot time displayed: 42.1 sec.
The computer used to type this post displayed: 2.8 sec.

It may be possible to reduce this by approximately 30 sec.

Any idea why my BIOS takes so long to load? - Windows 10 Help Forums

43 seconds to be precise, according to task manager. After that W10 takes equally long to get to log in. Having an NMVe drive, I assumed the whole process would be a lot quicker, but really it isn't that much quicker than my old PC. My start up programs a

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anito9999 · Feb 7, 2022

DigitalGoat said:
Midway down this page, options to 'lighten' the performance report:
How to collect a good boot trace on Windows 10 or Windows Server 2016 using WPRUI.

I followed this guide and choose the detail level to light and I was able to create an 8GB ETL file and it is over 700MB compressed not sure if I can make it any smaller the settings I had are below.
I am not sure if this will have enough details on it to show the cause of my long boot times but the I have it uploaded to google drive.
DESKTOP-O6EL3SB.02-06-2022.18-28-56.Boot_1.Boot_1.7z

zbook · Feb 7, 2022

Please post a V2 share link or upload directly into this thread:

BSOD - Posting Instructions - Windows 10 Help Forums

BSOD - Posting Instructions Information This will show you how to help provide needed information about your system and dump files. It wi

www.tenforums.com

anito9999 · Feb 7, 2022

zbook said:
Please post a V2 share link or upload directly into this thread:

BSOD - Posting Instructions - Windows 10 Help Forums

BSOD - Posting Instructions Information This will show you how to help provide needed information about your system and dump files. It wi

www.tenforums.com

here you go

zbook · Feb 7, 2022

Please run:

Gather_additional_dump_files.bat ─ Click here to go to the BSOD batch repository to download and run this batch file.

DiskParInfo.bat - Click here to go to the BSOD batch repository to download and run this batch file.

zbook · Feb 7, 2022

Please uninstall using applicable uninstall tools as needed:

Internetdownloadmanager
Winpatrol
Kaspersky
Drive Easy

Make sure that the only install antivirus software is Microsoft Defender.

Open Ccleaner > do not run the tool
click custom clean > scroll to system and advanced > post images or share links into this thread

Reset the hosts file:

Reset Hosts file back to default in Windows

How to reset Hosts file back to default in Windows

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anito9999 · Feb 7, 2022

zbook said:
Please run:

Gather_additional_dump_files.bat ─ Click here to go to the BSOD batch repository to download and run this batch file.

DiskParInfo.bat - Click here to go to the BSOD batch repository to download and run this batch file.

I was able to decrease boot times by disabling legacy USB support in the BIOS but still not within the BOOT times I used to get but it is a lot more better Here you go with the logs.

zbook · Feb 7, 2022

The logs reported:

a) BSOD
b) possible disk problems

Please test all drives > post images or share links into this thread

Run HD Tune: (free or trial version) (test all drives)

HD Tune website

HD Tune

www.hdtune.com

Post images for results on these tabs:
a) Health
b) Benchmark
c) Full error scan

Run Sea Tools for Windows (test all drives)

SeaTools | Seagate US

SeaTools - Quick diagnostic tool that checks the health of your drive.

www.seagate.com

long generic test

Open administrative command prompt and type or copy and paste: (test all drives)
chkdsk /b /v

Test all drives using the syntax: chkdsk /b /v C:, chkdsk /b /v D:, chkdsk /b /v E: etc.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>chkdsk /r /v
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Cannot lock current drive.

Chkdsk cannot run because the volume is in use by another
process. Would you like to schedule this volume to be
checked the next time the system restarts? (Y/N)

Type: Y

These tests can be performed overnight:
a) HD Tune Full error scan
b) Sea Tools for Windows long generic test
c) chkdsk /b /v

Post images of Disk Management:
a) widen columns: Volume and Status > make sure that no characters are cut off
b) widen rows: Disk 0, disk 1, disk 2, disk 3, etc. > make sure that no characters are cut off

Download and install: Minitool partition wizard

MiniTool Partition Wizard | Best partition magic alternative for Windows PC and Server

As a partition magic alternative, MiniTool Partition Wizard is the latest partition manager software that can be used to manage partitions on Windows 11/10/8/7 and Server 2003/2008/2012/2016/2019.

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Click launch > post images into this thread

For any BSOD > run V2

Code:

------------------------
Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
------------------------
      Drive: C:
 Free Space: 164.3 GB
Total Space: 857.9 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: NVMe Samsung SSD 980 SCSI Disk Device

      Drive: D:
 Free Space: 210.2 GB
Total Space: 2861.6 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WD My Book 1230 USB Device

      Drive: E:
 Free Space: 112.8 GB
Total Space: 955.9 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WDC WD40PURX-64N96Y0

      Drive: F:
 Free Space: 10.1 GB
Total Space: 228.9 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: HS-SSD-C100 240G ATA Device

      Drive: G:
 Free Space: 143.8 GB
Total Space: 1770.0 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WDC WD40PURX-64N96Y0

      Drive: H:
 Free Space: 133.9 GB
Total Space: 953.9 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: HGST HTS541010A9E680 ATA Device

      Drive: I:
 Free Space: 188.0 GB
Total Space: 549.0 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: HGST HTS541010A9E680 ATA Device

      Drive: J:
 Free Space: 183.0 GB
Total Space: 1430.5 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: ST3000VX010-2E3166

      Drive: K:
 Free Space: 197.2 GB
Total Space: 2861.5 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: ST3000VX002-1F416R

      Drive: L:
 Free Space: 168.2 GB
Total Space: 1431.0 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: ST3000VX010-2E3166

      Drive: M:
 Free Space: 180.0 GB
Total Space: 1089.6 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WDC WD40PURX-64N96Y0

      Drive: N:
 Free Space: 84.2 GB
Total Space: 404.9 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: HGST HTS541010A9E680 ATA Device

      Drive: O:
 Free Space: 185.1 GB
Total Space: 3815.4 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: ST4000DM006-2G5107

      Drive: P:
 Free Space: 94.8 GB
Total Space: 953.8 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: NVMe KINGSTON SNVS100 SCSI Disk Device

      Drive: Q:
 Free Space: 1009.5 GB
Total Space: 1907.7 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: ST2000VX 000-1ES164 USB Device

      Drive: R:
 Free Space: 16.3 GB
Total Space: 16.4 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: Romex RAMDISK SCSI Device

      Drive: S:
 Free Space: 343.5 GB
Total Space: 3815.4 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: ST4000VX007-2DT166

      Drive: W:
 Free Space: 374.7 GB
Total Space: 3815.4 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: ST4000DM004-2CV104

      Drive: X:
 Free Space: 1.9 GB
Total Space: 114.5 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: KINGSTON SA400S37120G ATA Device

      Drive: Y:
 Free Space: 478.3 GB
Total Space: 3815.4 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: ST4000VX007-2DT166

      Drive: Z:
 Free Space: 243.9 GB
Total Space: 3815.4 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: ST4000VX007-2DT166

anito9999 · Feb 7, 2022

zbook said:
Please uninstall using applicable uninstall tools as needed:

Internetdownloadmanager
Winpatrol
Kaspersky
Drive Easy

Make sure that the only install antivirus software is Microsoft Defender.

Open Ccleaner > do not run the tool
click custom clean > scroll to system and advanced > post images or share links into this thread

Reset the hosts file:

Reset Hosts file back to default in Windows

How to reset Hosts file back to default in Windows

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Uninstalled all those apps then rebooted still no change still takes a long time with the

LOGO and the spinning circle doesn't take that long to reach the Desktop once it gets past that point.
Bios time has dropped after the changes to the BIOS.
not sure what you needed on CCCleaner so I just put a check on all System and Advanced and I clicked analyze here are the result.

zbook · Feb 7, 2022

For Ccleaner > uninstall the software during the troubleshooting

For task manager > disable all > perform additional steps in the link below to place computer into clean boot

Perform a Clean Boot in Windows 11 to Troubleshoot Software Conflicts Tutorial

This tutorial will show you how to perform a clean boot to start Windows 10 or Windows 11 using a minimal set of drivers and startup programs for troubleshooting application conflicts. Troubleshooting Windows can be a complex process due to the many different drivers, settings, and programs...

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After the computer is in clean boot > post a new V2

And run this script (do not zip results) > post a separate share link

https://www.tenforums.com/attachments/bsod-crashes-debugging/346094d1631611972-post-problem-reports-here-batch-files-use-bsod-debugging-collect_logs_from_event_viewer-2021-09-14.bat

Post a new image of task manager.

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