Solved Windows 11 update failed. Boot up loop


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Recently my PC automatically updated and failed, causing my boot process to continue to fail. I've tried all the youtube posts about rebooting, but still no luck. I used to be able to fix these problems, but recently my brain isn't cooperating. My BIOS/UEFI is by American Megatrends, but it won't allow me to boot from a USB flash drive. I downloaded windows media creation to make a windows ISO, but don't have any blank DVDs to burn it in yet. When I get them tomorrow I will make the iso disc. Aside from that, is there anything else I can do to get it up and running? I tried restoring to an earlier time, but the only restore points are the day of the update. If I can make the iso disc, should I run windows recovery? any bit of help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
 

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    Asus Prime X370-pro
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You'll have to do a clean install. A boot loop happens when a Windows installation or update fails.
 

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    Windows 11 Education For 25H2
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    HP ZBook G2
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    Intel® Core i7 5500u
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    HP
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    8 GB
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    Xeon 1535m v6
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    HP
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    32 GB
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    AMD Quadro Pro 4100
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Moving forward, I strongly urge you to begin using disc imaging software on a regular basis.
 

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    Logitech MX Master 4 & 3
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    500 mps
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    Firefox
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    Bitdefender
Just so I am sure, a windows reinstall will not delete any files on my C: drive except for the actual OS files, right?
 

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    Windows 11 Pro (x64) Version 25H2 build 26200.8457
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    custom built
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    Ryzen 5 5600X
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    Asus Prime X370-pro
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    G. Skill 4X8GB 288-pin SDRAM DDR4-3000
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    MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
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    Cool Master Mastercase Pro 5
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Thanks! I will definitely start using imaging software again.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro (x64) Version 25H2 build 26200.8457
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    custom built
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    Ryzen 5 5600X
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    Asus Prime X370-pro
    Memory
    G. Skill 4X8GB 288-pin SDRAM DDR4-3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
    Sound Card
    onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual ViewSonic VG2753 Series [Monitor] (27.2"vis, October 2017)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1T SSD (C:\); 2T spinner HDD partitioned into virtual drives; 250gb WD Blue SSD;
    PSU
    Seasonic Focus Plus SSR-650FX
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    Cool Master Mastercase Pro 5
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    Cryorig H7
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but don't have any blank DVDs to burn it in yet.
I hope you bought dual layer dvds because the iso won't fit on single layer one. Most people create install usb drives rather than using dvds.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2x1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+2tb Kingston m2.nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    #1 Edge #2 Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26200.8457
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink Mini PC SER5
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 6800U
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics card(s)
    integrated
    Sound Card
    integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Crucial nvme
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    still too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    System 3 is non compliant Dell 9020 i7-4770/24gb ram Win11 PRO 26200.8457
Yes, I bought double layer 8.5gb discs. I tried using USB but I couldn't find a configuration in UEFI for booting with USB.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro (x64) Version 25H2 build 26200.8457
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    PC/Desktop
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    custom built
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    Ryzen 5 5600X
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X370-pro
    Memory
    G. Skill 4X8GB 288-pin SDRAM DDR4-3000
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    MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
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    onboard
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    Dual ViewSonic VG2753 Series [Monitor] (27.2"vis, October 2017)
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    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1T SSD (C:\); 2T spinner HDD partitioned into virtual drives; 250gb WD Blue SSD;
    PSU
    Seasonic Focus Plus SSR-650FX
    Case
    Cool Master Mastercase Pro 5
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    Cryorig H7
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    Logitech wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    1 Gb fiber optic AT&T
    Browser
    Opera
    Antivirus
    McAfee
    Other Info
    NordVPN installed

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    Intel i5 12600K
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    Lian-Li
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    Old solid and heavy IBM🙂
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    1000 mbit
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Consider the following steps:


1) Create a bootable Sea Tools flash drive:



2) Run the Sea Tools Long generic test > take pictures > post images or share links


3) Create a bootable Windows 11 Media Creation Tool (MCT) / iso





4) Perform a Custom install:
( a custom install saves important files to Windows.old and installs a fresh version Windows)
(drivers and applications need to be reinstalled)





 

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    Windows 10
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    HP
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    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
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    Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
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    16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
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    NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
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    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
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    Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
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    Microsoft Defender
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    Mobile Workstation
I tried using USB but I couldn't find a configuration in UEFI for booting with USB.

Manual boot order adjustments are not required to boot from a Windows installation USB; use the one-time boot menu instead (e.g. for desktop motherboards: ASRock F11, Asus F8, Gigabyte F12, MSI F11).

I've tried all the youtube posts about rebooting, but still no luck. I used to be able to fix these problems, but recently my brain isn't cooperating.

Try the bcdboot command. It may fix the boot loop issue (though not always).

- Boot from a Windows 11 installation USB flash drive.
- When you reach the "Select setup option" screen, press Shift + F10 to open Command Prompt. On some laptops, you may need to press Shift + Fn + F10.
- Alternatively, click "Repair my PC" > "Next" > "Troubleshoot" > "Command Prompt".
- Run the following commands:

diskpart
list volume (find the EFI partition number)
select volume # (use the EFI partition number)
assign letter=z
list volume (find the Windows partition letter)
exit

bcdboot x:\windows /s z: /f uefi

- replace "x" with the Windows partition letter

The bcdboot command copies the required UEFI boot files from the Windows partition to the specified EFI partition and creates a new Boot Configuration Data (BCD) store on it.
 
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    Windows 11 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D
    Motherboard
    ASRock B650E Taichi Lite
    Memory
    Kingston FURY Beast 64GB (2x32GB) DDR5 6000MT/s
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    ASUS TUF Gaming Radeon RX 9070 OC Edition 16GB GDDR6
    Hard Drives
    Solidigm P44 Pro 2TB M.2 NVMe SSD
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Legion Pro 7i Gen 10 16"
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 9 275HX
    Memory
    64GB (2x 32GB) DDR5-6400
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 16GB GDDR7 Laptop GPU
    Hard Drives
    2x 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD (SK Hynix)
Recently my PC automatically updated and failed
Once you are back up and running, you should consider using a simple measure to prevent any unexpected update occurring, and give you a chance to review people's experience with it e.g. from comments under the relevant thread for that update in the News section.

You have Pro, so this is easy.

Use group policy (gpedit.msc) and set updates to Notfiy.

Then, when an update becomes available you are - yes- notified. Nothing is then downloaded until you approve it.

There are other options described in the tutorials, including when your PC is allowed to restart for an update, and of course, Active Hours. But using Notify is the most secure in requiring your approval.

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Notes:
a. An in-place upgrade install is only possible if you can boot normally.
b. Considering a clean install, should you decide to do that: you will of course need first to back up or recover any data that is not already backed up.
When you clean install, you will delete all partitions comprising your existing O/S and install to unallocated space.
c. You should, as a matter of course, check your disk is ok. E.g. zbook's post (1,2).
 
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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Laptop
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    Lenovo t480s
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    i7-8650U
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD 620
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    C SN810 SDCPNRY-512G-1006
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
Thank you for the advice and steps to take. I will update when it is all completed.👍
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro (x64) Version 25H2 build 26200.8457
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    custom built
    CPU
    Ryzen 5 5600X
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X370-pro
    Memory
    G. Skill 4X8GB 288-pin SDRAM DDR4-3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
    Sound Card
    onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual ViewSonic VG2753 Series [Monitor] (27.2"vis, October 2017)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1T SSD (C:\); 2T spinner HDD partitioned into virtual drives; 250gb WD Blue SSD;
    PSU
    Seasonic Focus Plus SSR-650FX
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    Cool Master Mastercase Pro 5
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    Cryorig H7
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    Logitech wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    1 Gb fiber optic AT&T
    Browser
    Opera
    Antivirus
    McAfee
    Other Info
    NordVPN installed
Use the boot menu (F8 during POST on Asus MB) to select to boot from the Win 11 USB installation drive to recreate the Boor manager.
I would format the EFI partition before creating a new Boot manager.
To rebuild the Boot manager on the EFI partition:
- Insert the Win 11 USB installation drive on a USB port
- Start the computer and during POST, press F8 to launch the boot menu. You will see two options for the USB drive. USB UEFI (Name) and USB (Name). Select USB UEFI (Name) to boot as UEFI.
- Boot from a Win 11 installation drive and at the Windows Setup screen, press Shift+F10 simultaneously to open a command line prompt and type:
diskpart
list vol <- note which drive letter your Windows partition is assigned (it may not be C)
list disk <- note the disk number of the drive containing your EFI system partition
select disk # <- replace # with the drive identified above
list par <- note which partition is the EFI System partition
select part # <- replace # with the partition number identified above
format fs=FAT32 quick
assign letter=S
exit
bcdboot W:\Windows /s S: /f UEFI <- note change W: to the drive letter identified above
diskpart
select vol S
remove letter=S
exit

If it fails to boot the problem is with Windows OS
You probably have all your previous Windows under Windows.old folder.
There is a way to restore it, so don't do a clean install
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro - Windows 7 HP 64 - Lubuntu
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    custom build
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4400MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Win 11
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    (4) -1 BX500 SSD - 256G for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Q550LF
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800- 3000MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs
    & 1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
You probably have all your previous Windows under Windows.old folder.
There is a way to restore it, so don't do a clean install
This is only true if the the system UPGRADED. If what broke the system was a monthly cumulative or security update, there will be no windows.old folder.
Even after an upgrade, the windows.old folder is automatically deleted after 10 days.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2x1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+2tb Kingston m2.nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    #1 Edge #2 Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26200.8457
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink Mini PC SER5
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 6800U
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics card(s)
    integrated
    Sound Card
    integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Crucial nvme
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    still too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    System 3 is non compliant Dell 9020 i7-4770/24gb ram Win11 PRO 26200.8457
This is only true if the the system UPGRADED. If what broke the system was a monthly cumulative or security update, there will be no windows.old folder.
Even after an upgrade, the windows.old folder is automatically deleted after 10 days.
You're right.
What is also true is that if OP does a "clean install" WITHOUT cleaning the partitions and pointing to install on the windows partition (drive must have at least 30G of free space), it will create an new windows but the old one will be saved under windows.old so important user files could be transferred to the new Windows.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro - Windows 7 HP 64 - Lubuntu
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    custom build
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4400MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Win 11
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    (4) -1 BX500 SSD - 256G for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Q550LF
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800- 3000MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs
    & 1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
I do have a question. I really don't want to lose some important files on my c: drive. I know I need to do a clean install, but is it possible to remove the c: drive from my PC, put it in an external drive docking station and open it up on my laptop? Then I could possibly locate and copy those files onto my laptop? Then, do a clean install on that c: drive?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro (x64) Version 25H2 build 26200.8457
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    custom built
    CPU
    Ryzen 5 5600X
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X370-pro
    Memory
    G. Skill 4X8GB 288-pin SDRAM DDR4-3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
    Sound Card
    onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual ViewSonic VG2753 Series [Monitor] (27.2"vis, October 2017)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1T SSD (C:\); 2T spinner HDD partitioned into virtual drives; 250gb WD Blue SSD;
    PSU
    Seasonic Focus Plus SSR-650FX
    Case
    Cool Master Mastercase Pro 5
    Cooling
    Cryorig H7
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    1 Gb fiber optic AT&T
    Browser
    Opera
    Antivirus
    McAfee
    Other Info
    NordVPN installed
What is also true is that if OP does a "clean install" WITHOUT cleaning the partitions
Fair enough as I've never custom installed windows. If I have a problem so severe that the OS has to be 100% rewritten I go whole hog.

is it possible to remove the c: drive from my PC, put it in an external drive docking station and open it up on my laptop?
Yes, it is posssible to see the drive that way BUT BE AWARE you will not be able to open those files on another windows device or copy them. In order to access the files you will have to take ntfs permission of them FIRST.

Back when I was attempting to do just what you mentioned to recover files for other people, I got tired of dealing with permissions. My solution was to create a live linux distro usb (Mint Cinnamon or Ubuntu), booted from that usb and used live Linux to copy user files to an external drive.. Linux removes all permissions during the copy process.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2x1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+2tb Kingston m2.nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    #1 Edge #2 Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26200.8457
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink Mini PC SER5
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 6800U
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics card(s)
    integrated
    Sound Card
    integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Crucial nvme
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    still too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    System 3 is non compliant Dell 9020 i7-4770/24gb ram Win11 PRO 26200.8457
Okay, thanks! I will look into ubuntu. I've used it before but was not too adept at mastering it.

Does that apply to only c: drives, or any internal HD that I remove from my PC?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro (x64) Version 25H2 build 26200.8457
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    custom built
    CPU
    Ryzen 5 5600X
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X370-pro
    Memory
    G. Skill 4X8GB 288-pin SDRAM DDR4-3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
    Sound Card
    onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual ViewSonic VG2753 Series [Monitor] (27.2"vis, October 2017)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1T SSD (C:\); 2T spinner HDD partitioned into virtual drives; 250gb WD Blue SSD;
    PSU
    Seasonic Focus Plus SSR-650FX
    Case
    Cool Master Mastercase Pro 5
    Cooling
    Cryorig H7
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    1 Gb fiber optic AT&T
    Browser
    Opera
    Antivirus
    McAfee
    Other Info
    NordVPN installed

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
    Motherboard
    Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
    Memory
    16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
    Hard Drives
    Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Mobile Workstation
Very important - I forgot to ask: IS THE DRIVE BITLOCKED? OR DEVICE ENCRYPTION ENABLED?This makes a big difference to how file recovery is handled..

To answer your last question, NTFS permissions apply to any drive or partition formatted with the NTFS file system, not just your C: drive.
IMO handling a situation like yours is far easier and straightforward (for me) than changing permission on the folder/files you are wanting to copy because I always keep a live Linux usb handy just for this purpose; whereas you have to go to the trouble of creating the usb.

I have another solution you can try but before I give it , answer the above question.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2x1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+2tb Kingston m2.nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    #1 Edge #2 Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26200.8457
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink Mini PC SER5
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 6800U
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics card(s)
    integrated
    Sound Card
    integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Crucial nvme
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    still too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    System 3 is non compliant Dell 9020 i7-4770/24gb ram Win11 PRO 26200.8457

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