Windows Defender on a fresh installed Windows 11

Into_Oblivion1 · Jul 27, 2024

Dear all

When installing a fresh Windows 11.

1.
Is Windows Defender turned on by default / from the start?

2.
Is Windows Defender real-time protection turned on by default / from the start?

3.
What if McAfee antivirus is pre-installed on the laptop.
Does that change / impact 1 and 2?

4.
Where can I see the threats, malware etc. that Windows Defener has found?

Thank you

Wisewiz · Jul 27, 2024

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. If you’re doing a fresh install of Windows, your machine won’t have any pre-installed programs except those that come with Windows.
4. Click the Defender icon, click the first icon on the top left, and you’ll see an option to see protection history.

andrew129260 · Jul 28, 2024

Wisewiz said:
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. If you’re doing a fresh install of Windows, your machine won’t have any pre-installed programs except those that come with Windows.
4. Click the Defender icon, click the first icon on the top left, and you’ll see an option to see protection history.

to expand on this, for number 3

if you have a new pc and the trial antivirus subscription runs out, windows defender will auto turn itself on, but you still need to uninstall mcafee/norton etc whatever came with the pc as its just starting up with your pc for no reason.

Into_Oblivion1 · Aug 6, 2024

Wisewiz said:
3. If you’re doing a fresh install of Windows, your machine won’t have any pre-installed programs except those that come with Windows.

The laptop came with pre-installed Windows.
When I booted the laptop up for the first time, I had to create user, choose language etc.

3.
What if McAfee antivirus is pre-installed on the laptop.
Does that change / impact 1 and 2?

Into_Oblivion1 · Aug 6, 2024

andrew129260 said:
to expand on this, for number 3

if you have a new pc and the trial antivirus subscription runs out, windows defender will auto turn itself on, but you still need to uninstall mcafee/norton etc whatever came with the pc as its just starting up with your pc for no reason.

If the trial antivirus is deleted or turned off, how does that impact 1. and 2.?
Windows Defender will auto turn itself on?

andrew129260 · Aug 6, 2024

Into_Oblivion1 said:
If the trial antivirus is deleted or turned off, how does that impact 1. and 2.?
Windows Defender will auto turn itself on?

yes

Jacee · Aug 6, 2024

I disabled McAfee and set Windows Security as my Antivirus. Then I uninstalled McAfee.

Helmut · Aug 6, 2024

1. and 2. Yes, however if McAfee antivirus is pre-installed then that is used.

3. McAfee integrates with Windows Defender, some elements of security are still parts of Windows overall security.

4. That is much further down the line, maybe years, depending on how you use your Laptop.

When McAfee is pre-installed then you get a month of use for free, or whatever, see details for a particular Laptop.
Assuming you uninstall after the free trial then Windows Defender clicks in.

McAfee does just uninstall these days, no worries, there is a McAfee MCPR tool available but I did not need to use that.
Windows Defender clicks in automatically, very easy.

https://www.mcafee.com/support/s/article/000001616?language=en_US

Into_Oblivion1 · Aug 13, 2024

If the trial antivirus is deleted or turned off, how does that impact 1. and 2.?
Windows Defender will auto turn itself on?

andrew129260 said:
yes

That includes Windows Defender real-time protection is also auto turned on?

Into_Oblivion1 · Aug 13, 2024

Jacee said:
I disabled McAfee and set Windows Security as my Antivirus. Then I uninstalled McAfee.

Did you set it yourself, or did it do it auto / by itself?

Did Windows Defender and Windows Defender rea-time protection turn on by itself?

Into_Oblivion1 · Aug 13, 2024

Helmut said:
3. McAfee integrates with Windows Defender, some elements of security are still parts of Windows overall security.

1.
What elements of security?

2.
I am most concerned with the firewall.
I asumme, that Mcafee has a good firewall aswell?

Helmut said:
McAfee does just uninstall these days, no worries, there is a McAfee MCPR tool available but I did not need to use that.
Windows Defender clicks in automatically, very easy.

3.
Meaning that after uninstall, Windows Defender turned on by itself?

Thank you

Dannydet · Aug 13, 2024

Wow just open your security settings and check if windows defender is running.

Into_Oblivion1 · Aug 14, 2024

Dannydet said:
Wow just open your security settings and check if windows defender is running.

My problem is, I can't remember the exact setup when I turned on my laptop and used Windows for the first time.

1.
Was McAfee pre-installed

2.
Was McAfee active from the start, McAfee firewall, antivirus protection etc. - or did it require some kind of manual activation of a trial-period

3.
If McAfee was pre-installed and activated from the start, was it then default selected as the Windows antivirus and firewall program

4.
If McAfee was not pre-installed or activated from the start - was Window Defender antivirus and firewall then on by default from the start

Into_Oblivion1 · Nov 4, 2024

I know my system came with pre-isntalled McAfee Livesafe.

Has anyone else bought a new laptop with McAfee Livesafe, and can tell me:

First time you entered Windows / saw desktop.

1.
Was MS Defender selected as protection in Virus & threat protection?
Or was McAfee Livesafe selected as protection in Virus & threat protection?

2.
Was McAfee Livesafe already active?
Or did it require to start a trial-period for example, before McAfee Livesafe would be activated?

Thank you

glasskuter · Nov 4, 2024

On a new OEM computer if McAfee is pre-installed
1. McAfee Livesafe is active. Defender is turned off.
2. Trial starts automatically with no registration. After trial period you have to purchase it

Defender would not be active until Mcafee is uninstalled and the system restarted. You might have to go to Security Ceter and manually turn it on.. I suggest you use the McAfee Unintall tool to uninstall any Mcafee product.

Porthos · Nov 4, 2024

The only thing I can add is that I run the McAfee removal tool the first thing after setup for all of my clients. No exception.

Into_Oblivion1 · Nov 18, 2024

glasskuter said:
On a new OEM computer if McAfee is pre-installed
1. McAfee Livesafe is active. Defender is turned off.
2. Trial starts automatically with no registration. After trial period you have to purchase it

Defender would not be active until Mcafee is uninstalled and the system restarted. You might have to go to Security Ceter and manually turn it on.. I suggest you use the McAfee Unintall tool to uninstall any Mcafee product.

If McAfee LiveSafe is part of the pre-installed software bundle, that the laptop came with.

McAfee LiveSafe would be active from the first time I login and see the Windows desktop?
It would for exmaple not require to press "activate" in a McAfee window?

How long is the trial? 30 days?

Thank you

Into_Oblivion1 · Nov 18, 2024

Porthos said:
The only thing I can add is that I run the McAfee removal tool the first thing after setup for all of my clients. No exception.

Sounds like you have experience / experienced this scenario several times.

How would you answer the above questions?

Thank you

Porthos · Nov 18, 2024

Into_Oblivion1 said:
Sounds like you have experience / experienced this scenario several times.

How would you answer the above questions?

It's hard to say. I run the McAfee removal the first time the computer gets to the desktop. I do not look around for anything you are asking for.

You could not pay me to use McAfee on any system. Sorry.

andrew129260 · Nov 18, 2024

To me, there is no point to using another antivirus for anyone as defender is quite good on its own.

However, I do like Malwarebytes as a side second opinion scanner. But most people would be fine with defender.

I always set up systems for clients with the following:

1.) Make them an admin account and a regular limited account and have them use the regular account.

2.) Set UAC to always notify

3.) Have them use chrome or edge depending on the ecosystem they prefer with all the security settings set to max. Also add a few extensions.

4.) Enable Bitlocker if it's a laptop.

5.) If a laptop, Use a Microsoft account. This prevents password resets being done from boot and other tricks and further tampering by an unauthorized party.

6.) If they don't install many windows programs and use the same programs everyday, (rarely adding anything else) I set the following:

Settings > apps > advanced > choose where to get apps > From the Microsoft store only.

This pretty much removes a giant amount of the risks of threats on windows clients.

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But if they use a computer to just browse the web like most people and don't use/need any windows specific program? I give them a chromebook.

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