Windows Mail, Calendar and People app in Windows 11 will be replaced by Outlook in 2024

antspants · Jul 26, 2023

I tried this new look outlook. Once again, there are too many settings relevant to single account's and no option in many settings to “apply to all`’
It looks great, works well but when you have 20 email accounts, setting it up is still a pain in the butt.
For instance, I don’t like the ”focussed” setting, to disable it I have to do it for every single account as there is no apply to all accounts option. There are other settings with the same issue.

BrianInEngland · Jul 26, 2023

antspants said:
I tried this new look outlook. Once again, there are too many settings relevant to single account's and no option in many settings to “apply to all`’
It looks great, works well but when you have 20 email accounts, setting it up is still a pain in the butt.
For instance, I don’t like the ”focussed” setting, to disable it I have to do it for every single account as there is no apply to all accounts option. There are other settings with the same issue.

Hopefully any problems like this will be ironed out before general release next year. I can't even test it right now as I have email addresses that the new app doesn't support.

Another thing MS need to work on - the current Mail app runs in the background so we get notifications, the new one has to actually be running for the notifications to work. A step backwards!

Bastet · Jul 26, 2023

Not seeing the toggle yet as I have unsupported accounts but hopefully these will be added soon.
for those who’re using it is there a combined inbox?

antspants · Jul 26, 2023

BrianInEngland said:
Another thing MS need to work on - the current Mail app runs in the background so we get notifications, the new one has to actually be running for the notifications to work. A step backwards!

I didn't realize that. That isn't very productive at all. Hopefully they'll fix that.

antspants · Jul 26, 2023

Bastet said:
Not seeing the toggle yet as I have unsupported accounts but hopefully these will be added soon.
for those who’re using it is there a combined inbox?

I see it in both Win 10/11. I have many POP/IMAP accounts unrelated to outlook .com. Seems fine.

Fabler2 · Jul 26, 2023

Bastet said:
Not seeing the toggle yet as I have unsupported accounts but hopefully these will be added soon.
for those who’re using it is there a combined inbox?

No combined inbox. Workaround is to put all the inboxes as favourites.

Bastet · Jul 26, 2023

antspants said:
I see it in both Win 10/11. I have many POP/IMAP accounts unrelated to outlook .com. Seems fine.

Strange.
The Microsoft report states if the new app isn’t compatible then a user won’t see it.

Bastet · Jul 26, 2023

Fabler2 said:
No combined inbox. Workaround is to put all the inboxes as favourites.

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Thanks @Fabler2
Exactly like Outlook full version.

I had to set my inboxes as favourite when I had Outlook via Office.

antspants · Jul 26, 2023

Bastet said:
Strange.
The Microsoft report states if the new app isn’t compatible then a user won’t see it.

I apologise, I must of added the pop/imap after trying the new outlook. I can no longer see it. Aren’t i an ass.

Bastet · Jul 26, 2023

antspants said:
I apologise, I must of added the pop/imap after trying the new outlook. I can no longer see it. Aren’t i an ass.

It’s easy to mis-remember. Done it myself. :)

LeeB · Jul 26, 2023

If I'm using Outlook in, say, Office 2019, is there any reason I should pay attention to this new app?

antspants · Jul 26, 2023

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LeeB said:
If I'm using Outlook in, say, Office 2019, is there any reason I should pay attention to this new app?

Nope, not in my opinion. If you’re not concerned with Windows mail, no. You don’t have half as much control as you do in Outlook in Office 2019 and unless you want to pay a monthly fee, your cloud allotment is limited, however the monthly fee is minimal.

antspants · Jul 26, 2023

It will be interesting to see though, if Microsoft plans on removing Outlook from future office suites. I personally like Outlook in the Office set, I like the control, I like using pst files, I like not being restricted unless I pay monthly fee’s.

LeeB · Jul 26, 2023

antspants said:
It will be interesting to see though, if Microsoft plans on removing Outlook from future office suites. I personally like Outlook in the Office set, I like the control, I like using pst files, I like not being restricted unless I pay monthly fee’s.

My sentiments are the same as yours. Taking Outlook out of Office seems anti-consumer, but that doesn't mean MS wouldn't do it.

f14tomcat · Jul 26, 2023

Looks a tad like Thunderbird. FWIW, TB 115 (still not widely available) has the "combined" inbox, they call it Unified Inbox.

Edwin · Aug 5, 2023

At least the new Outlook incorporates most preview handlers...

... as opposed to the old...

jimbo45 · Aug 6, 2023

Works "Ok-ish" but as I have Office 2021 I prefer the standard Outlook.
For a free client I suppose it's not too horrible - but IMO Thunderbird is better - but that's users individual choice.
Thunderbird allows all sorts of manipulations with inboxes but you still need to add accounts individually if you have several different email servers.

@f14tomcat

I'm using the latest Thunderbird (beta) on Linux and its fine by me - although beware if your server uses non std latin characters it wont necessarily work as you won't get passed the "invalid server name" stage !!!!. Fortunately my own email server on my own domain can set an alias so I can use latin-iso chars. Emails sent to the alias get received 100% OK.

cheers
jimbo

idgat · Aug 6, 2023

A whole new membership market for these type of forums ....

jro11 · Aug 8, 2023

Computer 1: I'm using Outlook 365 on my general purpose (Win10 Pro)_computer. I like it though what I've had to do with it primarily because of my horrible experiences with OneDrive has made it terribly bloated. I need to severely clean it up.

Computer 2. I've used Mail on my second Win10 DAW-dedicated computer. It receives a dedicated DAW-specific email account.

Cell Phone: I use yet another email account on my cell phone. This is because I want my cell phone to act as a telephone, not an entry point for all my email from everywhere. I use whatever 'email format' (imap?) a cell phone requires to get email. So if someone wants to email me on the phone they'll have to use email address--or just text me. (I just got a cell phone. We have no towers in the area and so 98% of cellphone work is done via WiFi. I have no idea how tower communication will change things.)

Computer 3 (laptop): I'm using my wife's (Win11 )computer to get acquainted with Win11 and to make it as Win10-like as possible for her. I have no idea if the email I get here is POP or IMAP!!!

- All of this makes it absolutely necessary that all my email accounts are POP accounts. My understanding is that IMAP accounts, unlike POP accounts, when they are accessed automatically remove the original from the server.

- Also, because I use different browsers for different work (or play) functionality I avoid syncing anything.

Based on what I'd heard, I thought Microsoft was going to force users to use "Outlook-classic" which made me wonder if this was a play to get everyone to buy Microsoft Office Suite.
Based on what I read above, I've just switched to the preview version of Mail--which looks/feels nothing like Outlook and which Microsoft, to add to the confusion, calls Outlook. Now I'm wondering what

portents. And, of course, I'm dreading this new incarnation of

OneDrive. I know that Microsoft is pushing things in the direction of everything on the cloud--no privacy or user control of his/her information--and I'm worried.