"Windows Protection Error" on Win 98SE using Hyper-V


Calab

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I have Hyper-V installed on my Window 11 Pro machine. I'm trying to create a virtual machine to run Windows 98SE but there are some issues...

During the installation, if I use the mouse anywhere on the screen, the whole VM freezes up and I have to power off the VM.

I was able to install 98SE using the keyboard only, but on reboot I get a Windows protection error after the splash screen. I get the same error if I choose Safe Mode. I can get to a command prompt to edit the various INI files that 98SE uses.

If I start in step-by-step confirmation mode, I get the error directly after msmouse.vxd is show, regardless of skipping it or installing it. There is no BOOTLOG.TXT file created.

What do I need to do to get this working? What info should I collect to help troubleshoot this?
 
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I the VM settings, turn off any 'Hardware Virtualisation' setting to fix this error.

Also, use Generation 1 type VM to support 32 bit operating systems
 
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    Windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
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    CCL Online
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    Intel i7-8700 3.2GHz
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    Gigabyte Z370P
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    16GB
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    Nvidea Geforce GTX 1070
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    IIlama Prolite E2783QSU
Calab said:
I have Hyper-V installed on my Window 11 Pro machine. I'm trying to create a virtual machine to run Windows 98SE but there are some issues...

During the installation, if I use the mouse anywhere on the screen, the whole VM freezes up and I have to power off the VM.

I was able to install 98SE using the keyboard only, but on reboot I get a Windows protection error after the splash screen. I get the same error if I choose Safe Mode. I can get to a command prompt to edit the various INI files that 98SE uses.

If I start in step-by-step confirmation mode, I get the error directly after msmouse.vxd is show, regardless of skipping it or installing it. There is no BOOTLOG.TXT file created.

What do I need to do to get this working? What info should I collect to help troubleshoot this?
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@Calab

For the Virtual disk -- you need to ensure it's IDE not SATA, the Guest's Vdisk must be MBR formatted and no UEFI. Also disable secure boot if it's on in the "Virtual machine's config". Also the Vdisk should be formatted as fat32 not NTFS.

Without looking at the VM's configuration file I'm only guessing here though.

Here's what to do on VMWare - on Hyper-V the "Virtual hardware" should be similar


In theory you should be able to get things working but HYPER-V isn't so good with old legacy OS'es -- XP is about the most one can go back to without a lot of a hassle.

Remember also very limited USB support and you might need to create a UFD (bootable floppy image) for boot to attach the Win98 iso for install. It's ages since I "did" windows 98SE but it IS do-able. I haven't though done it on HYPER-V.

Cheers
jimbo
 
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pjhutch said:
I the VM settings, turn off any 'Hardware Virtualisation' setting to fix this error.

Also, use Generation 1 type VM to support 32 bit operating systems
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I used Generation 1 when creating the VM. I don't see any Hardware Virtualization settings in my VM settings.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 / Linux Mint
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    C.S.D.
    CPU
    i9-12900k
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z690 UD AX DDR4
    Memory
    32 GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    Strix RTX 3060
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG QNED75URA 43" TV
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    One 1tb M.2 for Windows, one 500gb M.2 for Linux, and a 8 TB HDD for data
    PSU
    850 watt
    Case
    Cougar
    Cooling
    upHere D6SEC CPU Cooler
    Keyboard
    Cherry Stream wireless
    Mouse
    iClever MD172
    Internet Speed
    1Gbit/100mb
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft
    Other Info
    Bluray optical writer drive
jimbo45 said:
@Calab

For the Virtual disk -- you need to ensure it's IDE not SATA, the Guest's Vdisk must be MBR formatted and no UEFI. Also disable secure boot if it's on in the "Virtual machine's config". Also the Vdisk should be formatted as fat32 not NTFS.

Without looking at the VM's configuration file I'm only guessing here though.

Here's what to do on VMWare - on Hyper-V the "Virtual hardware" should be similar


In theory you should be able to get things working but HYPER-V isn't so good with old legacy OS'es -- XP is about the most one can go back to without a lot of a hassle.

Remember also very limited USB support and you might need to create a UFD (bootable floppy image) for boot to attach the Win98 iso for install. It's ages since I "did" windows 98SE but it IS do-able. I haven't though done it on HYPER-V.

Cheers
jimbo
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The virtual drive is 1GB, partitioned and formatted by the Windows 98 setup routines. Definitely attached to the IDE controller.

I will give the details at that link a try and see what happens.

It's not the end of the world if I don't get it working. I'll probably try VMware's software if Hyper-V give me too much hassle.
 

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    Windows 11 / Linux Mint
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    PC/Desktop
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    C.S.D.
    CPU
    i9-12900k
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z690 UD AX DDR4
    Memory
    32 GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    Strix RTX 3060
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG QNED75URA 43" TV
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    One 1tb M.2 for Windows, one 500gb M.2 for Linux, and a 8 TB HDD for data
    PSU
    850 watt
    Case
    Cougar
    Cooling
    upHere D6SEC CPU Cooler
    Keyboard
    Cherry Stream wireless
    Mouse
    iClever MD172
    Internet Speed
    1Gbit/100mb
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft
    Other Info
    Bluray optical writer drive
Last time I tried to boot Win98 SE in Hyper-V, I got to a frozen screen right after the boot logo.
It is not compatible.

From the looks of it, you can only install Windows NT+ / Win 2000 (tested with SP4) and XP-onwards as a VM in Hyper-V.

If someone at one point in time does manage to get it working, or OS gets miraculously supported, I'd sure be curious on the steps/results.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Intel NUC
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    i3 8109U
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    Intel
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    16GB DDR4 @2400
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    1920x1080
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    Intel SSD 250GB + Samsung QVO SSD 1TB
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    Adapter
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    The usual NUC airflow
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    Logitech Orion G610
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    SteelSeries Rival 100 Red
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    Good enough
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    Chromium, Edge, Firefox
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    Windows Defender
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    CentOS 9 Stream / Alma / Rocky / Fedora
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    Laptop
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    TOSHIBA
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    Intel i7 4800MQ
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    TOSHIBA
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    32GB DDR3 @1600
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    NVIDIA Quadro K2100M
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    Realtek HD Audio
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    Built-in
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    1920x1080
Calab said:
I have Hyper-V installed on my Window 11 Pro machine. I'm trying to create a virtual machine to run Windows 98SE but there are some issues...
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I'm not surprised, Hyper-V doesn't officially support running any version of Windows earlier than Vista, though it does seem to run XP quite happily.

learn.microsoft.com

Supported Windows guests

Supported Windows guests.
learn.microsoft.com

VirtualBox and VMWare do support older versions of Windows, I use VirtualBox to run my Windows '95 and WfWG 3.11 VMs, all networked. Screenshots here: I Still Prefer Windows 10 - post #122

Try VirtualBox....
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    Windows 11 Home
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    Laptop
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    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
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    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
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    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
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    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, and 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine.
  • Operating System
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    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
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    0T6M8G
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    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine.
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