Android Windows Subsystem for Android (WSA) is being deprecated beginning March 5, 2025


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 Microsoft Learn:

Microsoft is ending support for the Windows Subsystem for Android™️ (WSA). As a result, the Amazon Appstore on Windows and all applications and games dependent on WSA will no longer be supported beginning March 5, 2025. Until then, technical support will remain available to customers.

Customers that have installed the Amazon Appstore or Android apps prior to March 5, 2024, will continue to have access to those apps through the deprecation date of March 5, 2025. Please reach out to our support team for further questions at support.microsoft.com. We are grateful for the support of our developer community and remain committed to listening to feedback as we evolve experiences.


Because Microsoft is ending support for the Windows Subsystem for Android (WSA), Amazon Appstore on Windows 11 will no longer be supported after March 5, 2025. Amazon and Microsoft are partnering to create a smooth end of support experience for developers and customers of Amazon Appstore on Windows 11. Developers will no longer be able to submit net new apps targeting Windows 11 after March 5, 2024, but developers with an existing app can continue to submit app updates until Amazon Appstore on Windows 11 is fully discontinued.

Starting on March 6, 2024, Windows 11 customers will not be able to search for Amazon Appstore or associated apps from the Microsoft Store. Customers may continue using Amazon Appstore apps that they previously installed and will still be able to receive app updates.


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OK, so Google WAS invited, but walked away!? Now it makes more sense...

Without WSA app revenue WSA really was doomed...

What MS should have done, is to alongside Windows phone (instead of killing the brand), build Android phones with Google Play Services as default...and MS Android Store as secondary store. Then slowly but steadily invited more and more apps to their store also. When big enough, they could have brought WSA to Windows and integrate their own store that would have been filled with apps and games. What they could have done to spawn interest, is to keep prices/revenue cuts slightly lower than Play Store, at least initially just to cover costs, and later raise the price a bit (match Google) to actually make some money.

I should take over MS mobile and Android departments. Can I get my paycheck now? :zany:

😂
 

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Sounds like it was an uncontested divorce. I'm sick of you, you're sick of me....ok see ya.
 

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OMFG...🤣

They should have made a deal with Google...and WSA would fly already. Now Google pushed their own version which as I understand is quite decent.

Typical MS...create something nice and then they discontinue it. Not that I blame them, WSA has absolutely NO business value and offers nothing beyond what any emulator does today already.
Did Google really pushed their own version? If so, what is it called?
 

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Will I still be able to use WSA on my PC after the end of support period, or will it forcibly be blocked/uninstalled from my machine?
 

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Will I still be able to use WSA on my PC after the end of support period, or will it forcibly be blocked/uninstalled from my machine?
Hi there
It's usually unlikely to block an app after its deprecated - but you won't get any updates and it may well soon stop working on future updates / builds of Windows.

There seems to be something happening with the whole Android system - I gather Google (the rights holders of the android OS) want to make it more difficult for people to side load apps other than those endorsed by Google (probably trying to squeeze more money out of the system). Same with future editions of Amazon's firesticks where you won't be able to sideload things like Kodi / VLC etc on them which make them extremely useful for playing /streaming multi media content to a remote TV / device without needing things like Plex server etc.

All done in the "Holy grail of monetisation" these days I suppose.

Cheers
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Hi there
It's usually unlikely to block an app after its deprecated - but you won't get any updates and it may well soon stop working on future updates / builds of Windows.

There seems to be something happening with the whole Android system - I gather Google (the rights holders of the android OS) want to make it more difficult for people to side load apps other than those endorsed by Google (probably trying to squeeze more money out of the system). Same with future editions of Amazon's firesticks where you won't be able to sideload things like Kodi / VLC etc on them which make them extremely useful for playing /streaming multi media content to a remote TV / device without needing things like Plex server etc.

All done in the "Holy grail of monetisation" these days I suppose.

Cheers
jimbo
What makes you say that about Google? Any references?
 

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What makes you say that about Google? Any references?
I'm sure I saw it probably via Amazon when there were some articles saying that future hardware versions of their firestick would replace the current OS making it harder / impossible for people to side load apps on these devices. I'll have to see if I can find this --- I tend to use those firestick devices especially on remote smaller TV's e.g in the kitchen etc - where I can load up KODI / VLC on the device to access multi-media content from a NAS server - or run Netflix / Prime Video -- the firestick apps work far better than some of the built in apps on a lot of TV's where KODI isn't usually installable on them.

There must IMO be a reason for Amazon going down this route -- since GOOGLE is the "rights holder" of the Android OS.

Here's the Amazon bit about removing Android from firesticks.


Cheers
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But Amazon deciding to not allow sideloading of apps has nothing to do with Google and Android.

Android is completely free, only Google services require a license.

If Amazon decided to move away from Android it must be for other reasons than Google.

I don't really get what you're on about here.
 

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Amazon probably doing the same as Samsung with their Tizen development...they want to be in full control of their own products and mandate exactly what the user is allowed and not allowed to do. Android is somewhat open, so the user can easily do stuff on the OS that is not supposed to be allowed on certain devices. Amazon Firestick is an example. They want you to use the stick only for the things it was designed to do, meaning everything that Amazon lets you do and brings them money.
 

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microsoft should also start work on WSM or Windows subsystem for Mac. So that users can run/use Mac and ios apps on Windows.
 

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i think for ms, it might not be technical but a legal issue.
 

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microsoft should also start work on WSM or Windows subsystem for Mac. So that users can run/use Mac and ios apps on Windows.
Apple will never allow their apps anywhere but on Apple devices
 

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Kind of want to know what other people will be using instead of WSA

I use the modified version so that I can use Google Play apps.
Many mobile app versions are a better experience than the Windows App or even web versions.

Or should I start using something like FydeOS in a VM?
Or Maybe Bluestacks.

Or even maybe get a cheap android phone so that Link to Windows Apps will work.
 

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Kind of want to know what other people will be using instead of WSA

I use the modified version so that I can use Google Play apps.
Many mobile app versions are a better experience than the Windows App or even web versions.

Or should I start using something like FydeOS in a VM?
Or Maybe Bluestacks.

Or even maybe get a cheap android phone so that Link to Windows Apps will work.
This is a really good question. I've also used WSA as a modified blob where I've baked in Google Play Store. But this has been a very time consuming process to maintain. Each image update MS pushes erases all customizations.

I agree on Android apps being much better experience compared to the Windows App versions or sometimes even the web versions.

Right now I have Blue Stacks installed. It works OK for me, but for someone else the experience may be different.

I also have a High-End Android phone and it supports Desktop Experience (Samsung DeX), which is really good. I can use the phone as any computer and get things done on a 32" 1440p screen plus using mouse and KB, by connecting to a USB-C (DP Alt.) -> HDMI adapter or a dock. I also have an USB-C (DP Alt.) 14" FHD touch screen with pen support to which I can plug the phone to directly and that one has been great when I need to draw or when i am on the road and don't want to take my laptop with me.

I would not recommend a low-end cheap Android phone. You would regret it later. Either the phone will become obsolete within a few years or it will become slow or break. This has been the experience of every single cheaper Android phone I've purchased for me or the kids. We are talking tens of phones, which all has been total garbage within a few years...
 

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I tried many emulators but most have not been updated in years and run old android versions. Also, they comsume lots of resources etc.

In the end, I came to conclusion that it is better just to use a tablet or mobile phone rather than trying to use a pc to run android.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0
Im just looking for something I can have through windows.

I do have a Samsung Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra which does the Link to Windows thing, But that is way too big on the screen (It tries to make an ultra sized window which is unreadable)

I like DeX but as an iPhone user. having the ability to use apps like AirMessage allow me to get my text messages on Windows. It was good to just be able to use the one interface for everything.

I'm looking at this for the Android "In a window" mode which is why I was also looking at Bluestacks.


Makes me wonder too that if they get rid of this, how long will they get rid of the Linux in Windows too?

Kind of thinking that I might just start using the Tablet more and Windows for a bit less.Screenshot 2024-04-08 164915.png
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-12700K 3.60 GHz
    Motherboard
    B660M D3H DDR4
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GTX 1060 3GB
    Sound Card
    OnBoard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Multiple Displays, main: 27" Samsung 4K display
I would not recommend a low-end cheap Android phone. You would regret it later. Either the phone will become obsolete within a few years or it will become slow or break. This has been the experience of every single cheaper Android phone I've purchased for me or the kids. We are talking tens of phones, which all has been total garbage within a few years...

Well, I rather disagree For example A series Samsungs are relatively cheap bit good quailty and if you but a recent model supported for at least 4 years. So what if it becomes obsolete - buy a new one.

I refuse to pay £1000 for a mobile phone when one around £100-150 works fine.

At 4 years per phone, it would take me over 25 years before I paid £1000.

I have never had one become slow or break, but if I did, shrug my shoulders - no big loss.

As for environmental issues, blame the phone companies.

Even expensive phones only last a few years and the main reason is planned obsolescence as the main reason is battery failure. IMO phone manufacturers should be required to revert to removable batteries as they used to be

I do accept really cheap models sub £100 should be avoided as quality is much poorer. You can get better deal on a refurbished phone.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0
You can't get a cheap A-series Samsung here anymore...they are actually quite expensive and if they cost below 200€ there is something wrong with that particular model and will be total waste of money. Note that I have or my family has owned several of these phones. They are rubbish!
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.3296 (Release Channel) / Linux Mint 21.3 Cinnamon
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo A485
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
    Motherboard
    Lenovo (WiFi/BT module upgraded to Intel Wireless-AC-9260)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    iGPU Vega 10
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
    Screen Resolution
    FHD + FHD + 1440p
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
    PSU
    65W
    Keyboard
    Thinkpad / Logitech MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.3296(Release Preview Channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME Z270-A
    Memory
    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" 10-bit Asus PB328Q
    Screen Resolution
    WQHD 2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB ADATA SX8000NP NVMe PCIe Gen 3 x4
    PSU
    850W
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX Keys
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Cromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    AC WiFi Card

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