Solved A puzzling USB problem


glasskuter

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I had a perplexing issue with an external hard drive that I’ve solved but I do not understand why it is solved or even why I had the problem in the first place. I hope someone can enlighten me.

I had my mouse, keyboard, and a powered Western Digital external hard drive connected to a powered usb 2.0 switch between 2 computers, one Windows 10 (an old Optiplex 9020), the other Windows 11(a new Optiplex 7080)This external hard drive serves as the data drive for both systems depending on which one I am switched to using the switch. In both systems I originally had the switch plugged into a usb 2.0 rear port.

Here was my problem and what solved it.

Everything worked and still works perfectly using Windows 10. However, in Windows 11, anytime I restarted or cold booted, the HDD was NOT detected until I entered disk management. The mouse and keyboard WERE detected. I didn’t have to do anything in disk management, only open the utility which scanned the drives and added the external drive to the disk map. Everything worked perfectly until the next restart or cold boot. Then the HDD would not be detected again

I swapped the control cable between the 2 machines using the same 2.0 ports with no difference. I then swapped usb 2.0 ports on Windows 11 still with no difference. I thought it might be related to the HDD driver so I attempted to force Windows 11 to use the driver from WD, but the OS continued to use the MS disk drive driver 10.0.22000.1 instead. Windows 10 also uses the MS Driver but its driver is 10.1.1904.1.

Once Windows 11 was hot, I could easily use the switch to transfer the mouse, KB, and HDD back and forth between the 2 machines and everything worked well. It’s only if I restarted or cold booted Windows 11 that I lost the external HDD. USB selective suspend is disabled in power options.

I found if I plugged the switch control cable into a usb 3.2 gen 1 OR gen 2 port instead of using ANY usb 2.0 port on the Windows 11 machine that my issue disappeared. However, I could plug the external hard drive directly into that same usb 2.0 port without any issues; whereas, using any usb 2.0 port on the Windows 10 machine for the control cable works fine and the HDD is always detected.

I am attaching a photo of my PC connections. Looking at my USB controllers in device manager, it appears both the gen1 and gen 2 usb 3.2 ports work off the same hub.

Can someone explain to me what the difference is, and why, just by entering disk management the drive gets detected on the 2.0 port And why connecting a 2.0 switch to a 3.2 port works as expected but connecting it to a 2.0 usb port does not.
 

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@Ghot @The-Hive @Edwin Do you have any idea why I am having this problem? I've got it working but am trying to figure out why I had to do it this way.
 

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    still not telling
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and a powered Western Digital external hard drive connected to a powered usb 2.0 switch


Just a guess out of thin air... maybe Win 11 has issues with powering a device... twice?
You have a lot of things there I have no way to duplicate.
Prebuilt comps, USB switch, add to that, the fact that I have Sleep and Hibernate disabled, etc.

Also... I seem to remember something about... not all USB ports supply power, or the same amount of power??
Like different amperage, maybe??
 
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    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
What sort of switcher is it? KVM or sumpthin different?
 

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maybe Win 11 has issues with powering a device... twice?
That's the thing. Windows 11 PC is not powering the device twice. The usb switch will work out of the box and run with the voltage supplied from the usb port if one is running only a keyboard and mouse. However, I found there wasn't enough power to run any other device plugged into one of the additional ports on the switch so I added a 5v external power supply to the switch to bring the power to a steady 5.0v which solved that problem and would let me run things like usb flash drives using the additional ports, though I rarely do this. It's only when I plug a external HDD which has it's own power supply that the recognition problem comes into play. By the way, I have tried multiple external hard drives and the issue is consistant. I do not hot-swap the drives. They stay plugged into the switch . There must be some sort of fluctuation in the powering the new machine does on it usb 2.0 ports so it may not be a Windows 11 issue at all, but a PC issue.

What sort of switcher is it? KVM or sumpthin different?
Just a plain old 2.0 USB switch which I am powering with an external 5v power supply. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BD8I2OY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

This morning I tried connecting it to the FRONT 2.0 port with the same result. I then moved it to the front 3.2 port and it started to work there, too. Even though I don't understand it, this proves to me it's the way this new PC powers the usb ports.

Thanks, guys. The main thing is I have it working. I was just hoo-dooed as to why Windows 11 machine doesn't see the device as Windows 10 machine does. Guess it will remain a mystery. Since I'm having to utilize one of my 3.2 ports for this thing, I guess I need to invest in a new 3.2 usb switch. It should allow me to get full benefit of the transfer speed of my 3.1 external hdd, at least on that one computer. The Windows 10 machine is mainly for backup and testing so it doesn't matter that I have to run the drive at 2.0 speed on it.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3737
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    Dell Optiplex 7080
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    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
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    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External +512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
... why Windows 11 machine doesn't see the device as Windows 10 machine does.
Maybe an issue with the device's firmware...,
or, a Drive letter issue...
 

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    ASUS VivoBook
I would look at the different USB settings in both computers' BIOS.
 

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    Homebuilt
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    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
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    32GB
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    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
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    Dell Inspiron 7773
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    Intel i7-8550U
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    Nvidia Geforce MX150
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    17"
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    1920 x 1080
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    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
    SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
    Internet Speed
    Fast!
Yes, USB 3 ports tend to have more power available than do the USB 2 ports. The Switch I use is for Ethernet connections for additional ports where the Router has only 4. I do use USB 2 and USB 3 Hubs but if for static use I get those with their own power supply, much more stable than the unpowered one. I also use Add-in cards for USB 3 that plug into PCIe X1 or X4 slots on the motherboard, they come with a cable to plug into the computer's power supply. The portable USB 3 drives such as WD My Passport use the same SATA drives as in Notebooks and need only the power from USB 3 ports, the larger USB [2 and 3] drives have the same 3.5" drive in Desktops and do need their own power.
 

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    Win11 Pro RTM
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    Dell Vostro 3400
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    Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz
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    12GB
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    256GB SSD NVMe
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    Dell Vostro 5890
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    Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz
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    16GB
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    Onboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter
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    24" Dell
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    512GB SSD NVMe, 2TB WDC HDD
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    Windows Defender/Microsoft Security
Considering there are two external power supplies already - one on the hub and one on the external drive connected to the hub, I very seriously doubt there is a USB power issue.
 

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    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
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    32GB
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    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Education
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    Dell Inspiron 7773
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    Intel i7-8550U
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    32GB
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    Nvidia Geforce MX150
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    Realtek
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    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
    SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
    Internet Speed
    Fast!
Considering there are two external power supplies already...I very seriously doubt there is a USB power issue.
I was thinking about it the same way as you. To my way of thinking the external power source on the hub keeps a constant 5v on the switch ports whereas with no external power, the hub has just as much power as whatever port its connected to in the PC provides, barely enough for a KB and mouse. I use the same logic with the external power source on the HDD. It's that external power that's powering the HDD, not the power from the usb port.

I know I can plug this full size WD drive directly into ANY usb port and it will not spin up until I connect its power supply.

Beats me as to what a restart or cold boot has to do with this. I can't find anything in bios that might affect it. Thanks guys for all your thoughts.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3737
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External +512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
I intended but failed to mention the 3.5" drives in the larger case need both 5V and 12V hence the need for their own power supply. The 2.5" type in Notebooks and the pocketable cases need only 5V which is all the USB ports can provide.
 

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    Dell Vostro 3400
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    Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz
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    12GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD NVMe
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    Windows 11 Pro RTM x64
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    Dell Vostro 5890
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz
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    16GB
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    Onboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter
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    24" Dell
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    512GB SSD NVMe, 2TB WDC HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender/Microsoft Security
I was thinking about it the same way as you. To my way of thinking the external power source on the hub keeps a constant 5v on the switch ports whereas with no external power, the hub has just as much power as whatever port its connected to in the PC provides, barely enough for a KB and mouse. I use the same logic with the external power source on the HDD. It's that external power that's powering the HDD, not the power from the usb port.

I know I can plug this full size WD drive directly into ANY usb port and it will not spin up until I connect its power supply.

Beats me as to what a restart or cold boot has to do with this. I can't find anything in bios that might affect it. Thanks guys for all your thoughts.
You might want to try turning off Windows Fast Startup:
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Education
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 7773
    CPU
    Intel i7-8550U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce MX150
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
    SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
    Internet Speed
    Fast!
You might want to try turning off Windows Fast Startup:
It's already off. I use S3 sleep rather than hibernate so when I turned off hibernate, that removed the fast startup option.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3737
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External +512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
Windows may have created some Windows Error Reporting (WER).

Please run V2 and upload results directly into this thread:

Run: event viewer script > post a share link into this thread using one drive, drop box, or google drive
 

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    HP
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    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
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    Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
    Memory
    16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
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    NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
    Hard Drives
    Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Mobile Workstation

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3737
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External +512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
Please test all drives > post images of the results using one drive, drop box, or google drive


Run HD Tune: (free or trial version)
Post images for results on these tabs:
a) Health
b) Benchmark
c) Full error scan


Run Sea Tools for Windows:
Long generic test





Code:
------------------------
Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
------------------------
      Drive: C:
 Free Space: 89.0 GB
Total Space: 241.5 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: BC711 NVMe SK hynix 256GB

      Drive: D:
 Free Space: 115.5 GB
Total Space: 614.4 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WDC WD10EADS-65M2B1

      Drive: E:
 Free Space: 116.1 GB
Total Space: 339.5 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WDC WD10EADS-65M2B1

      Drive: F:
 Free Space: 0.6 GB
Total Space: 1.0 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WD My Book 1130 USB Device

      Drive: S:
 Free Space: 246.9 GB
Total Space: 307.2 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WD My Book 1130 USB Device

      Drive: Z:
 Free Space: 15.9 GB
Total Space: 17.4 GB
File System: FAT32
      Model: n/a


Code:
Event[18016]
  Log Name: System
  Source: disk
  Date: 2022-03-04T07:40:08.3170000Z
  Event ID: 154
  Task: N/A
  Level: Error
  Opcode: N/A
  Keyword: Classic
  User: N/A
  User Name: N/A
  Computer: Dell-7080
  Description:
The IO operation at logical block address 0x800c000 for Disk 2 (PDO name: \Device\000000db) failed due to a hardware error.

Event[18017]
  Log Name: System
  Source: disk
  Date: 2022-03-04T07:40:08.3170000Z
  Event ID: 154
  Task: N/A
  Level: Error
  Opcode: N/A
  Keyword: Classic
  User: N/A
  User Name: N/A
  Computer: Dell-7080
  Description:
The IO operation at logical block address 0x800c000 for Disk 2 (PDO name: \Device\000000db) failed due to a hardware error.



Code:
Event[10050]
  Log Name: System
  Source: disk
  Date: 2022-02-13T14:49:22.6680000Z
  Event ID: 154
  Task: N/A
  Level: Error
  Opcode: N/A
  Keyword: Classic
  User: N/A
  User Name: N/A
  Computer: Dell-7080
  Description:
The IO operation at logical block address 0x1c00c000 for Disk 3 (PDO name: \Device\0000008d) failed due to a hardware error.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
    Motherboard
    Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
    Memory
    16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
    Hard Drives
    Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Mobile Workstation
@zbook how long do I run the full error scan with HDTune and how long is long generic test with Seatools? Do the tests automatically stop?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3737
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External +512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
These tests can run overnight:
a) HD Tune full error scan
b) Sea Tools for Windows long generic test

There have been many threads where they were run simultaneously too.
(Ideally they are run one at a time but I've not yet seen anomalous or abnormal results from the simultaneous runs)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
    Motherboard
    Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
    Memory
    16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
    Hard Drives
    Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Mobile Workstation
@zbook Something is weird. Several of those events point to a disk 2. I do not have a disk 2 .
 

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3737
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External +512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium

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