Alternative to Macrium and Aomei Backupper - Free editions


William654

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Hi

I used to be happy with Aomei Backupper until it began to hangup my Win 11 system twice. So I tried Macrium but it missing important feature to backup certain files and folders not the complete partition. I heard about Veem, is it used to single Windows usage ?like

  • backup system partitions
  • backup certain files incremental
  • explore backup image files

why it is very big 9.5GB download ?

What are your recommendations ?

Thanks
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    5900x
    Motherboard
    MAG X570S TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI
    Memory
    32 GB G.Skill
    Graphics Card(s)
    RX 6800 XT
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Z
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BENQ and AOC QHD 120Hz
    Screen Resolution
    QHD
    Hard Drives
    2TB Intel 660p and 2TB Sabrent Rokect 4 plus nvme, 4TB HDD HGST
    PSU
    Corsair RM750
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    Bloody rage
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    Water cooling gamdias 240
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    razer ornata
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    razer da v2
    Browser
    FF and Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
William654 said:
What are your recommendations ?

Thanks
Click to expand...


Macrium Reflect.

It looks like Veeam is only a trial. So you might as well pay for Macrium.
The paid version will do files and folders.


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  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26100.3194 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦24H2 ♦♦♦non-Insider
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
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    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
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    Firefox (latest)
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    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
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    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
Ghot said:
Macrium Reflect.

It looks like Veeam is only a trial. So you might as well pay for Macrium.
The paid version will do files and folders.
Click to expand...
veem has complete community edition for free but is it for servers only ?
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    5900x
    Motherboard
    MAG X570S TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI
    Memory
    32 GB G.Skill
    Graphics Card(s)
    RX 6800 XT
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Z
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BENQ and AOC QHD 120Hz
    Screen Resolution
    QHD
    Hard Drives
    2TB Intel 660p and 2TB Sabrent Rokect 4 plus nvme, 4TB HDD HGST
    PSU
    Corsair RM750
    Case
    Bloody rage
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    Water cooling gamdias 240
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    razer ornata
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    razer da v2
    Browser
    FF and Chrome
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    Malwarebytes
I found the free edition for windows called
Standalone Veeam Agent for Microsoft Windows FREE 338mb

will try it now
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    5900x
    Motherboard
    MAG X570S TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI
    Memory
    32 GB G.Skill
    Graphics Card(s)
    RX 6800 XT
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Z
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BENQ and AOC QHD 120Hz
    Screen Resolution
    QHD
    Hard Drives
    2TB Intel 660p and 2TB Sabrent Rokect 4 plus nvme, 4TB HDD HGST
    PSU
    Corsair RM750
    Case
    Bloody rage
    Cooling
    Water cooling gamdias 240
    Keyboard
    razer ornata
    Mouse
    razer da v2
    Browser
    FF and Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
Tried Ashampoo free also missing important features
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    5900x
    Motherboard
    MAG X570S TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI
    Memory
    32 GB G.Skill
    Graphics Card(s)
    RX 6800 XT
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Z
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BENQ and AOC QHD 120Hz
    Screen Resolution
    QHD
    Hard Drives
    2TB Intel 660p and 2TB Sabrent Rokect 4 plus nvme, 4TB HDD HGST
    PSU
    Corsair RM750
    Case
    Bloody rage
    Cooling
    Water cooling gamdias 240
    Keyboard
    razer ornata
    Mouse
    razer da v2
    Browser
    FF and Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
William654 said:
I found the free edition for windows called
Standalone Veeam Agent for Microsoft Windows FREE 338mb

will try it now
Click to expand...


All I can say is that in 20+ years, this is the first I've heard of Veeam. It may be great.... who knows.
I have the feeling, it's gonna be seriously bloated, or stripped of worthwhile features.

As for Macrium... yeah, it's not cheap, but you can find it on sale and it is a "lifetime" license you would be buying.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26100.3194 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦24H2 ♦♦♦non-Insider
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
I am testing Veem and easeus Todo Backup Free will post the results
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    5900x
    Motherboard
    MAG X570S TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI
    Memory
    32 GB G.Skill
    Graphics Card(s)
    RX 6800 XT
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Z
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BENQ and AOC QHD 120Hz
    Screen Resolution
    QHD
    Hard Drives
    2TB Intel 660p and 2TB Sabrent Rokect 4 plus nvme, 4TB HDD HGST
    PSU
    Corsair RM750
    Case
    Bloody rage
    Cooling
    Water cooling gamdias 240
    Keyboard
    razer ornata
    Mouse
    razer da v2
    Browser
    FF and Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
Veem is very slow , very poor UI, incremental or differential features does not exists ... uninstalled
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    5900x
    Motherboard
    MAG X570S TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI
    Memory
    32 GB G.Skill
    Graphics Card(s)
    RX 6800 XT
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Z
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BENQ and AOC QHD 120Hz
    Screen Resolution
    QHD
    Hard Drives
    2TB Intel 660p and 2TB Sabrent Rokect 4 plus nvme, 4TB HDD HGST
    PSU
    Corsair RM750
    Case
    Bloody rage
    Cooling
    Water cooling gamdias 240
    Keyboard
    razer ornata
    Mouse
    razer da v2
    Browser
    FF and Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
Ghot said:
As for Macrium... yeah, it's not cheap, but you can find it on sale and it is a "lifetime" license you would be buying.
Click to expand...
. . . and you will get a discounted update from v 8.x.x to v 9.x.x (when it sees the light of day)!
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (Build 26100.3194)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Precision 3660 Tower Workstation
    CPU
    12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-12900 5.10 GHz
    Motherboard
    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
    Memory
    32.00 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 770
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell P2714H Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1 x 512GB NVME PC801 NVMe SK hynix - BOOT
    1 x 1TB Seagate ST1000LM049-2GH172 Internal HDD
    1 x 1TB Seagate STGX4000400 External HDD
    1 x 2TB Seagate STGX4000400 External HDD
    1 x 4TB Seagate STGX4000400 External HDD
    PSU
    300 Watts
    Cooling
    Air
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Wired Keyboard 600
    Mouse
    Microsoft USB Basic Optical Mouse v2.0
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender + Malwarebytes Premium
    Other Info
    BaseBoard Manufacturer Dell Inc.
    BaseBoard Product 0J1CP3
    BaseBoard Version A01
Ghot said:
All I can say is that in 20+ years, this is the first I've heard of Veeam. It may be great.... who knows.
I have the feeling, it's gonna be seriously bloated, or stripped of worthwhile features.

As for Macrium... yeah, it's not cheap, but you can find it on sale and it is a "lifetime" license you would be buying.
Click to expand...
I have used Veeam but was never enamoured with it.
IanMosley said:
. . . and you will get a discounted update from v 8.x.x to v 9.x.x (when it sees the light of day)!
Click to expand...
Or if OP can wait till Black Friday, it is normally 50% off. I never bother upgrade but wait till Black Friday - that way, you keep old licence AND get a new one for same cost.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
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    Laptop
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    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop OLED screen
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800 touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
    Keyboard
    Built in UK keybd
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
    Internet Speed
    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
William654 said:
Hi

I used to be happy with Aomei Backupper until it began to hangup my Win 11 system twice. So I tried Macrium but it missing important feature to backup certain files and folders not the complete partition. I heard about Veem, is it used to single Windows usage ?like

  • backup system partitions
  • backup certain files incremental
  • explore backup image files

why it is very big 9.5GB download ?

What are your recommendations ?

Thanks
Click to expand...
Personally i have tried them all and two of them , Macrium and Aomei both failed me when i needed to reinstall from a backup image. So I now use EaseUs Backup Pro and I have Not had one issue and it works perfect with Win11
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro Version 23H2(OS Build 22631.4317)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    AMD
    CPU
    12-Core AMD Ryzen 9 5900X, 4950 MHz (49.5 x 100)
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master
    Memory
    4 - G Skill Trident Z Neo F4-3600C16-16GTZNC
    Graphics Card(s)
    PCI Express 4.0 x16: PowerColor RX 6800
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220 @ AMD K19.2 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 - 27 inch Westinghouse
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    2 SSD - 2 TB each
    1 SSD - 4TB
    1 HDD - 2TB
    Keyboard
    logitech
    Mouse
    logitech
    Internet Speed
    1 GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Eset Endpoint Security
imanlien2020 said:
Personally i have tried them all and two of them , Macrium and Aomei both failed me when i needed to reinstall from a backup image. So I now use EaseUs Backup Pro and I have Not had one issue and it works perfect with Win11
Click to expand...
there is very annoying problem. the app is not dpi aware. UI and font is too small
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    5900x
    Motherboard
    MAG X570S TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI
    Memory
    32 GB G.Skill
    Graphics Card(s)
    RX 6800 XT
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Z
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BENQ and AOC QHD 120Hz
    Screen Resolution
    QHD
    Hard Drives
    2TB Intel 660p and 2TB Sabrent Rokect 4 plus nvme, 4TB HDD HGST
    PSU
    Corsair RM750
    Case
    Bloody rage
    Cooling
    Water cooling gamdias 240
    Keyboard
    razer ornata
    Mouse
    razer da v2
    Browser
    FF and Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
I found a free backup tool here Evorim seems good so far.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    5900x
    Motherboard
    MAG X570S TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI
    Memory
    32 GB G.Skill
    Graphics Card(s)
    RX 6800 XT
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Z
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BENQ and AOC QHD 120Hz
    Screen Resolution
    QHD
    Hard Drives
    2TB Intel 660p and 2TB Sabrent Rokect 4 plus nvme, 4TB HDD HGST
    PSU
    Corsair RM750
    Case
    Bloody rage
    Cooling
    Water cooling gamdias 240
    Keyboard
    razer ornata
    Mouse
    razer da v2
    Browser
    FF and Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
William654 said:
Veem is very slow , very poor UI, incremental or differential features does not exists ... uninstalled
Click to expand...
It is not intended for what you want.

 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win7,Win11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i5-8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    benq gw2480
    PSU
    bequiet pure power 11 400CM
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Operating System
    win7,win11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    pentium g5400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    1x8gb 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450
William654 said:
I found a free backup tool here Evorim seems good so far.
Click to expand...
I haven't tried it, here is the edition comparison. It is not clear what the average punter is supposed to about a recovery environment with the free version. Maybe pebuilders like myself could do a diy, but its a bit much to expect granny to do it.

Advanced Backup

Advanced Backup
www.evorim.com www.evorim.com
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win7,Win11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i5-8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    benq gw2480
    PSU
    bequiet pure power 11 400CM
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Operating System
    win7,win11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    pentium g5400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    1x8gb 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450
Evorim is the solution for me. I tested bootable recovery environment and it work fine. I just hope they keep it free in the future. btw it is made in Germany.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    5900x
    Motherboard
    MAG X570S TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI
    Memory
    32 GB G.Skill
    Graphics Card(s)
    RX 6800 XT
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Z
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BENQ and AOC QHD 120Hz
    Screen Resolution
    QHD
    Hard Drives
    2TB Intel 660p and 2TB Sabrent Rokect 4 plus nvme, 4TB HDD HGST
    PSU
    Corsair RM750
    Case
    Bloody rage
    Cooling
    Water cooling gamdias 240
    Keyboard
    razer ornata
    Mouse
    razer da v2
    Browser
    FF and Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
SIW2 said:
It is not intended for what you want.
Click to expand...
This is for servers there is another standalone edition for windows
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    5900x
    Motherboard
    MAG X570S TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI
    Memory
    32 GB G.Skill
    Graphics Card(s)
    RX 6800 XT
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Z
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BENQ and AOC QHD 120Hz
    Screen Resolution
    QHD
    Hard Drives
    2TB Intel 660p and 2TB Sabrent Rokect 4 plus nvme, 4TB HDD HGST
    PSU
    Corsair RM750
    Case
    Bloody rage
    Cooling
    Water cooling gamdias 240
    Keyboard
    razer ornata
    Mouse
    razer da v2
    Browser
    FF and Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
I have only had a quick look at evorim, looks good so far. Glad to see it using wimlib so very quick. I havent tested exclusions yet.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win7,Win11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i5-8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    benq gw2480
    PSU
    bequiet pure power 11 400CM
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Operating System
    win7,win11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    pentium g5400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    1x8gb 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450
SIW2 said:
I have only had a quick look at evorim, looks good so far. Glad to see it using wimlib so very quick. I havent tested exclusions yet.
Click to expand...
Yep +1 for WimLib.

I recall trying to convert the C source to C# a couple years ago but C being procedural has gazillions of lines of code .. so I just gave up.. however I see it has been ported to CLR now ;)

Sorry for being OT.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows
I'm beginning to think that some of these backup things are getting a bit "Last Century" rather like older Anti Virus type of programs.

Backups should always be taken - but if you switch to using entirely vhdx files for your windows installations (whether in a VM or as a real machine) just saving the vhdx files doesn't need any special backup software whatsoever -- and even mounting an image which was good in MACRIUM can be done by simply diskpart-> select vdisk->attach vdisk->list vol ->assign letter=xx. Just save with file explorer !!! and xmit to a NAS for extra backup.

I have 100% nothing against Macrium or whatever -- great company - but as times and methodology changes then why stick to the ways that it was done 20 years ago,

Still though whatever you use ==>PLEASE always have sufficient backup -- and test it from time to time.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
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