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Hi all, I've got a Gigabyte GA-Z370-HD3 mobo and a Samsung SSD 960 EVO 256Gb hooked up to it. There is no other connecter, (Are they called M2 ports?), for a second SSD on this mobo so I'm toying with the idea of upgrading to another one. So, my questions:
Would I get faster speeds on a second SSD if the mobo had two M2? connection points?
Instead of buying/building another comp would it be better to change the mobo and perhaps up the RAM?
Upsides or downsides?
Thanks guys and/or girls (-:
 

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lffoar said:
Would I get faster speeds on a second SSD if the mobo had two M2? connection points?
Instead of buying/building another comp would it be better to change the mobo and perhaps up the RAM?
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Whether you upgrade or not is up to you.
If you don't "need" more... you could get a 2.5 inch SSD (SATA). They run about 550Mb/s.

Another option is just build a new up-to-date comp and keep the 8700K comp the way it is.

They also sell PCIe to NVMe adapter cards

Ofc, you could just upgrade mobo. CPU and RAM. But at the moment, that could be expensive.


This motherboard can run your current CPU and RAM... and it has 2x M.2 slots





I was checking a build for... mobo, CPU and DDR5 RAM... 32GB of DDR5 RAM in Australia, is pushing $800


Here's a Mobo, CPU RAM build, (fairly modern)...

 
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I you'd like to upgrade to a DDR5 motherboard, I suggest that you check out RAM prices at the moment. Shocking.

There are LGA1700 (Intel Gen12, 13, and 14 CPUs) that use DDR4 RAM.
 

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Thanks Ghot, I did have a second SSD which the computer doc fitted via a PCIe to NVMe adapter but it was no better/quicker than my internal HDD so I took it out. I looked at some prices and yikes, think I'll persevere with the old girl for a while and maybe get into a new rig next year. It was only to try for more speed playing high end games but for the required outlay.........I'll stick to solitaire!


Thanks Bobkn, I did check out prices and got a shock.......I should get out more! Consider it closed fellers, I'm staying put.
 

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lffoar said:
I'll stick to solitaire!
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Here... this is a fairly decent game. I ran it on an AMD FX-8350 and a GTX 780Ti...

www.gog.com

Tower of Time

A new kind of RPG awaits you. A story-rich dungeon crawler with innovative real-time comb
www.gog.com www.gog.com
 

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lffoar said:
Hi all, I've got a Gigabyte GA-Z370-HD3 mobo and a Samsung SSD 960 EVO 256Gb hooked up to it. There is no other connecter, (Are they called M2 ports?), for a second SSD on this mobo so I'm toying with the idea of upgrading to another one. So, my questions:
Would I get faster speeds on a second SSD if the mobo had two M2? connection points?
Instead of buying/building another comp would it be better to change the mobo and perhaps up the RAM?
Upsides or downsides?
Thanks guys and/or girls (-:
Click to expand...
I believe with a BIOS update you can run 9th gen intel processors on your board. Also, your specs say you're at 1080p. Even at that resolution for gaming, a GTX 1060 is getting long in the tooth.
 

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The SATA M.2 slots are 6gb/s which is almost twice as fast as your Samsung SSD 960 EVO in the m2 slot. Get a faster one for the M.2 but I dont know what the speed rating of your M.2 port is and get a new drive for the SATA as well but I thing you said you already have one.

Hard to believe the PCIe to NVMe adapter is as slow as a HDD. Sump'ns not right. Is it in the correct slot? There should be no significant speed reduction when using a PCIe to NVMe adapter, as it is a passive device that directly connects the SSD to PCIe lanes
 
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john1955 said:
The SATA slots are 6gb/s which is almost twice as fast as your Samsung SSD 960 EVO in the m2 slot.
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It´s the other way around. The Samsung in the M.2 slot is at least twice as fast as the SATA DRIVE.
 

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Anibor_11 said:
It´s the other way around. The Samsung in the M.2 slot is at least twice as fast as the SATA DRIVE.
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Yes, Thanks, that was a typo . . . What I meant is . . . if his M.2 port is rated at 6GB . . . his actual SSD is only capable of around 2GB/s so I recommend a FASTER SSD for the M.2 port and get an adapter and put the Samsung SSD 960 EVO in a SATA port or in the adapter he already has for the fastest PCIE slot available.
 

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john1955 said:
Yes, Thanks, that was a typo . . . What I meant is . . . if his M.2 port is rated at 6GB . . . his actual SSD is only capable of around 2GB/s so I recommend a FASTER SSD for the M.2 port and get an adapter and put the Samsung SSD 960 EVO in a SATA port or in the adapter he already has for the fastest PCIE slot available.
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:boom::boom::boom: Too confusing for an old fart like me. I'm leaving well enough alone and will get my computer guru to build me a newbie next year.

Thanks Ghot, have played that one :-)
 

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    Crucial 32Gb 2 x 16 6000MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce RTX 3050VENTUS 2 x 6G OC
    Sound Card
    Nvidia HD audio + Realtek HD audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 32" HD TV as monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    Acer FA100 512Gb M2 NVMe Gen 3 3300MB/s
    Crucial SSD 1Tb
    WD 4Tb external HDD
    PSU
    MSI MAG A650BN 650W
    Case
    Antec NX200M
    Cooling
    3 onboard fans + Zalman CNPS9X Optima 2 120mm air cooler
    Keyboard
    Microsoft wireless 850
    Mouse
    Microsoft wireless 1000
    Internet Speed
    Fair to middlin'
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft defender
    Other Info
    MBAM
    Adware
    Glary utilities
    Open shell
    Revo uninstaller
    Macrium reflect
    Libre office suite
    VLC video player

  • At a glance

    Windows 10 Home 22H2 19045.5854Intel Haswell. BX80646174790 Core i7-4790 3.6...G.Skill Sniper 16Gb (8gbx2) DDR3 1600Gainward Nvidia GTX770 PCI-E VGA
    Operating System
    Windows 10 Home 22H2 19045.5854
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    self built
    CPU
    Intel Haswell. BX80646174790 Core i7-4790 3.6 GHz 8mb LGA 1150
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Model H97-D3H Intel H97 S1150
    Memory
    G.Skill Sniper 16Gb (8gbx2) DDR3 1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward Nvidia GTX770 PCI-E VGA
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 27" monitor
    Screen Resolution
    HD
    Hard Drives
    SSD: Samsung 840 PRO series. 256Gb SATA 3 winw + 1Tb WD black HDD
    PSU
    Antec HCG-620w High Current Gamer
    Case
    Thermaltake A41 USB3 Mid Tower
    Cooling
    Standard Intel with added heat sink
    Keyboard
    Microsoft
    Mouse
    Microsoft optical
    Internet Speed
    reasonable
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    MSE
lffoar said:
:boom::boom::boom: Too confusing for an old fart like me. I'm leaving well enough alone and will get my computer guru to build me a newbie next year.
Click to expand...
I bet your younger than me :p Just show your guru this thread.
You might be shocked when you see how much a new system costs now
 

My Computers My Computers

System One System Two

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 (up to date)Intel i5 12400Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GBOn Board the Z690
    OS
    Windows 11 (up to date)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel i5 12400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z690 UA
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    On Board the Z690
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    43" Samsung tu7000
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG SSD 1TB NVMe M.2
    PSU
    Thermaltake smart 500w 80+
    Case
    LIAN LANCOOL_205M
    Cooling
    Bunch of fans . . . :o) (lights dont work)
    Keyboard
    Unicomp: Ultra Classic White Buckling Spring USB
    Mouse
    M510
    Internet Speed
    50mbps on Ethernet
    Browser
    Fire Fox
    Antivirus
    Windows
    Other Info
    Love this computer but I still prefer Win-7 like I love my old Lazy Boy Recliner . . . it just feels better.

  • At a glance

    WIN-7-64BIT and Win-11 pro for testing on uns...i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz, 3801 Mhz, 4 Core(s), ...16 GB - Crucial Ballistick 4GB PC3-14900 DDR3...NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050
    Operating System
    WIN-7-64BIT and Win-11 pro for testing on unsupported hardware
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz, 3801 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    GA-Z77-HD3
    Memory
    16 GB - Crucial Ballistick 4GB PC3-14900 DDR3-1333 MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS VP278
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    4 - internal Samsung 2.5" SSD, 1 WD HDD 7200 and some external drives
    PSU
    EVGA 550w
    Case
    Old Gygabyte Tower
    Cooling
    Yes
    Keyboard
    Unicomp - UNIOP4A USB (like the old IBM Model H that I started with)
    Mouse
    M510
    Internet Speed
    50mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows
    Other Info
    The only thing it lack is USB-3.2 on the front face but it has 3.0 on the back
john1955 said:
I bet your younger than me :p Just show your guru this thread.
You might be shocked when you see how much a new system costs now
Click to expand...
I dunno John, your piccy looks like you might be around 70? I'm 84 mate and feel every bump I've had along the road......and there's been a few!
You're right about the cost, I just browsed around and wow! Better start saving my pension :rolleyes:
 

My Computers My Computers

System One System Two

  • At a glance

    W11 Home 25H2 OS 26200.8457Intel(R) Core(TM) Ultra 5 processor 225F LGA ...Crucial 32Gb 2 x 16 6000MHzNvidia Geforce RTX 3050VENTUS 2 x 6G OC
    OS
    W11 Home 25H2 OS 26200.8457
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) Ultra 5 processor 225F LGA 1851 20M
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B860M DS3H WIFI6E 1.0 4 x DDR5
    Memory
    Crucial 32Gb 2 x 16 6000MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce RTX 3050VENTUS 2 x 6G OC
    Sound Card
    Nvidia HD audio + Realtek HD audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 32" HD TV as monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    Acer FA100 512Gb M2 NVMe Gen 3 3300MB/s
    Crucial SSD 1Tb
    WD 4Tb external HDD
    PSU
    MSI MAG A650BN 650W
    Case
    Antec NX200M
    Cooling
    3 onboard fans + Zalman CNPS9X Optima 2 120mm air cooler
    Keyboard
    Microsoft wireless 850
    Mouse
    Microsoft wireless 1000
    Internet Speed
    Fair to middlin'
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft defender
    Other Info
    MBAM
    Adware
    Glary utilities
    Open shell
    Revo uninstaller
    Macrium reflect
    Libre office suite
    VLC video player

  • At a glance

    Windows 10 Home 22H2 19045.5854Intel Haswell. BX80646174790 Core i7-4790 3.6...G.Skill Sniper 16Gb (8gbx2) DDR3 1600Gainward Nvidia GTX770 PCI-E VGA
    Operating System
    Windows 10 Home 22H2 19045.5854
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    self built
    CPU
    Intel Haswell. BX80646174790 Core i7-4790 3.6 GHz 8mb LGA 1150
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Model H97-D3H Intel H97 S1150
    Memory
    G.Skill Sniper 16Gb (8gbx2) DDR3 1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward Nvidia GTX770 PCI-E VGA
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 27" monitor
    Screen Resolution
    HD
    Hard Drives
    SSD: Samsung 840 PRO series. 256Gb SATA 3 winw + 1Tb WD black HDD
    PSU
    Antec HCG-620w High Current Gamer
    Case
    Thermaltake A41 USB3 Mid Tower
    Cooling
    Standard Intel with added heat sink
    Keyboard
    Microsoft
    Mouse
    Microsoft optical
    Internet Speed
    reasonable
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    MSE
lffoar said:
I dunno John, your piccy looks like you might be around 70? I'm 84 mate and feel every bump I've had along the road......and there's been a few!
You're right about the cost, I just browsed around and wow! Better start saving my pension :rolleyes:
Click to expand...
85 . . . that's great. I'm 71 but was 62-63 in the pic. I'm much younger now cuz I'm way more active ;)
 

My Computers My Computers

System One System Two

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 (up to date)Intel i5 12400Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GBOn Board the Z690
    OS
    Windows 11 (up to date)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel i5 12400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z690 UA
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    On Board the Z690
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    43" Samsung tu7000
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG SSD 1TB NVMe M.2
    PSU
    Thermaltake smart 500w 80+
    Case
    LIAN LANCOOL_205M
    Cooling
    Bunch of fans . . . :o) (lights dont work)
    Keyboard
    Unicomp: Ultra Classic White Buckling Spring USB
    Mouse
    M510
    Internet Speed
    50mbps on Ethernet
    Browser
    Fire Fox
    Antivirus
    Windows
    Other Info
    Love this computer but I still prefer Win-7 like I love my old Lazy Boy Recliner . . . it just feels better.

  • At a glance

    WIN-7-64BIT and Win-11 pro for testing on uns...i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz, 3801 Mhz, 4 Core(s), ...16 GB - Crucial Ballistick 4GB PC3-14900 DDR3...NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050
    Operating System
    WIN-7-64BIT and Win-11 pro for testing on unsupported hardware
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz, 3801 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    GA-Z77-HD3
    Memory
    16 GB - Crucial Ballistick 4GB PC3-14900 DDR3-1333 MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS VP278
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    4 - internal Samsung 2.5" SSD, 1 WD HDD 7200 and some external drives
    PSU
    EVGA 550w
    Case
    Old Gygabyte Tower
    Cooling
    Yes
    Keyboard
    Unicomp - UNIOP4A USB (like the old IBM Model H that I started with)
    Mouse
    M510
    Internet Speed
    50mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows
    Other Info
    The only thing it lack is USB-3.2 on the front face but it has 3.0 on the back
You must know, that M.2 can be SSD SATA or NVMe (faster)
Your mobo supports NVMe PCIe Gen3 native, so that would be my choice.
I just bought 2 used ( 3 years old) 256 GB Samsung for $22 each 🙂
BTW How does an PCIe adapter come in play?

I have also just upgraded a friends old PC with a used Gigabyte Z390 AORUS, 16 GB Gskill
and Intel® Core™ i7-9700K - thats pretty fast even today and support Windows 25H2, which
had been on the mobo and got a digital licence when installed.
Got it all for $224 ….
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 ProIntel i5 12600KG.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 3600 MHz / PC4-28800 C...Intel® UHD Graphics 770 (iGPU)
OS
Windows 11 Pro
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Homemade by me
CPU
Intel i5 12600K
Motherboard
MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4
Memory
G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 3600 MHz / PC4-28800 CL16 2x8 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel® UHD Graphics 770 (iGPU)
Sound Card
8-Channel (7.1) HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Legion/Lenovo Y25-25
Screen Resolution
Full HD 1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
WD Black NVMe M.2 500 GB (system drive)
Case
Lian-Li
Keyboard
Old solid and heavy IBM🙂
Mouse
Logitech
Internet Speed
1000 mbit
Antivirus
Avast free
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