Computer Seems Slower Since Moment 5?


swerd

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Hi all,

I have noticed my PC seems slower since updating to moment 5.

Has anyone else noticed this?

Cheers
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5800X3D
    Motherboard
    Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro WiFi II
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC897 @ AMD K19.2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC U34G2G4R3 [34" LCD]
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    NVMe Samsung SSD 970 x 2
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    4TB ST4000DM004-2CV104
    PSU
    750W Coolermaster V Series V750 80 Plus Gold
    Case
    Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 D-RGB Tempered Glass Full Tower Black
    Internet Speed
    250Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox / Chrome / Edge / Vivaldi
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
maybe
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY Photoshop/Audio/Game/tinker build
    CPU
    Intel i9 13900KS P/E cores 5.7/4.4 GHz, cache 5.0 GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Dark Hero
    Memory
    96GB (2x48) G.skill Ripjaws 6800 MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus ROG Strix 4070 Ti OC
    Sound Card
    Bowers & Wilkins 606 S3 speakers; Audiolabs 7000a integrated amp; Logan Martin Sub; Creative Pebble Pro Minimilist
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Eizo CG2730 ColorEdge, ViewSonic VP2768
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440p x 2
    Hard Drives
    WDC SN850X 4TB nvme, SN850 1TB nvme, SK-Hynix 2 TB P41 nvme,. Sabrent USB-C DS-SC5B 5-bay docking station: 6TB WDC Black, 6TB Ironwolf Pro; 2x 2TB WDC Black HDD
    PSU
    850W Seasonic Vertex PX-850 ATX 3.0/PCI-E 5.0
    Case
    Fractal Design North XL Mesh, Black Walnut
    Cooling
    EKWB 360 Nucleus Dark AIO w/Phanteks T30-120 fans, 1 Noctua NF-A14 Chromax case fan, 1 T30-120 fan cooling memory
    Keyboard
    Keychron Q3 Max TKL with custom GMK Redsuns Red Samuri keycaps, TX Stabs
    Mouse
    Logitech G305 wireless gaming
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s down, 12 Mb/s up
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender, Macrium Reflect X ;-)
    Other Info
    Runs hot. LOL. SP: P116/E93/M93
    Phangkey Amaterasu V2 Desk Mat
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple 13" Macbook Pro 2020 (m1)
    CPU
    Apple M1
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1600
    Browser
    Firefox
The main things I have noticed is that the weather widget takes ages to load. Also, loading Gmail takes much longer than before.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5800X3D
    Motherboard
    Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro WiFi II
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC897 @ AMD K19.2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC U34G2G4R3 [34" LCD]
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    NVMe Samsung SSD 970 x 2
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    4TB ST4000DM004-2CV104
    PSU
    750W Coolermaster V Series V750 80 Plus Gold
    Case
    Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 D-RGB Tempered Glass Full Tower Black
    Internet Speed
    250Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox / Chrome / Edge / Vivaldi
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
No problem here.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    Erica6
    Memory
    Micron Technology DDR4-3200 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC671
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster U28E590
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG MZVLQ1T0HALB-000H1
Not me.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.3775
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme+ 4gb Solidigm nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    #1 Edge #2 Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
No. But i don't use Widgets and have dozens of Windows features/settings/services disabled as well - which tends to impact access time to some extent. Tho, this days - biggest (most potent) speed tweak is hardware related (nVme SSDs). And you have one as well.

Go to Windows Search and type Delete Temporary Files

Click on Temporary Files + hit Refresh and remove all files.

Next open C:\Windows\prefetch and delete everything

Go to Windows search again and type Defragment and Optimize Drives and hit Optimize on C:\Windows partition.

Restart the PC. Did that help?

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WinDOS 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    CPU
    Intel & AMD
    Memory
    SO-DIMM SK Hynix 15.8 GB Dual-Channel DDR4-2666 (2 x 8 GB) 1329MHz (19-19-19-43)
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia RTX 2060 6GB Mobile GPU (TU106M)
    Sound Card
    Onbord Realtek ALC1220
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1x Samsung PM981 NVMe PCIe M.2 512GB / 1x Seagate Expansion ST1000LM035 1TB
here I left 22h2 I think it's faster than 23h2

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Iot Enterprise LTSC 24h2 26100.3476
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    xeon E5-2697v2
    Motherboard
    rampage iv extreme
    Memory
    32gb 8x4gb ddr3 1333 mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    gtx 570 poit of view
    Sound Card
    realtek HD (ALC898)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    samsung b2030
    Screen Resolution
    1600x900
    Hard Drives
    2tb hd 5400 rpm
    3tb hd 5400 rpm
    1tb nvme pcie 3.0
    PSU
    hx850w
    Keyboard
    mtek
    Internet Speed
    500/250 gpon
    Browser
    firefox 136.0.1
    Antivirus
    none
There is no realistic evidence to support latest updates are slower.

In virtually all cases, there is an underlying reason if somebody has an issue e.g. programs running in background, fragmented drive or little spare capacity after update, something is corrupted in OS, drive is failing etc.

A blanket statement "my pc seems slower" is rather meaningless.

One has to do some diagnostics, run benchmarks etc.

It is suprising how often it simply comes down to perception. One of my friends was convinced his pc was slower after upgrading from 22H2 to 23H2. Fortunately we had made an imaged backup, so we reinstated 22H2 and benchmarked it with passmark, then reinstated 23H2 and did the same. The results were virtually identical.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop OLED screen
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800 touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
    Keyboard
    Built in UK keybd
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
    Internet Speed
    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
There is no realistic evidence to support latest updates are slower.

In virtually all cases, there is an underlying reason if somebody has an issue e.g. programs running in background, fragmented drive or little spare capacity after update, something is corrupted in OS, drive is failing etc.

A blanket statement "my pc seems slower" is rather meaningless.

One has to do some diagnostics, run benchmarks etc.

It is suprising how often it simply comes down to perception. One of my friends was convinced his pc was slower after upgrading from 22H2 to 23H2. Fortunately we had made an imaged backup, so we reinstated 22H2 and benchmarked it with passmark, then reinstated 23H2 and did the same. The results were virtually identical.
Does disabling spectrum and meltdown give any performance gains? on old cpus 2016 or more older

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How much performance does active spectre and meltdown lose in windows on an ivy bridge cpu?

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Specter and Meltdown performance loss on Ivy Bridge CPUs in Windows can vary significantly depending on several factors, such as:Attack type: Spectre: generally causes a performance loss of 5% to 30%, but may be greater in some specific cases. Meltdown: Typically causes a 10% to 40% performance loss, but can be even greater in software that relies heavily on branch prediction.System setup: Processor: Specific Ivy Bridge models may be more or less affected. Operating system: Windows updates can reduce the impact of vulnerabilities. Software: Some programs may be affected more than others.Mitigation measures: Software updates: Installing Windows and application security updates is crucial to minimizing the impact of vulnerabilities. Enabling mitigations in the BIOS: Some motherboards provide options in the BIOS to enable mitigations against Specter and Meltdown, but these may have an impact on performance. Use of antivirus software: Some antiviruses offer protection against Specter and Meltdown, but they may have an impact on performance.In general, the performance loss with Specter and Meltdown active in Windows on Ivy Bridge CPUs can be significant, ranging from 5% to 40% or more.Recommendations: Apply all Windows and application security updates. Enable mitigations in BIOS if available for your motherboard. Consider using antivirus software with Specter and Meltdown protection. Monitor your system performance to identify any significant impacts.Remember that the best way to protect yourself against Specter and Meltdown is to install security updates for Windows and applications.Additional features: Microsoft article on Specter and Meltdown: [Invalid URL removed] List of CPUs affected by Specter and Meltdown: [Invalid URL removed]
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Iot Enterprise LTSC 24h2 26100.3476
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    xeon E5-2697v2
    Motherboard
    rampage iv extreme
    Memory
    32gb 8x4gb ddr3 1333 mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    gtx 570 poit of view
    Sound Card
    realtek HD (ALC898)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    samsung b2030
    Screen Resolution
    1600x900
    Hard Drives
    2tb hd 5400 rpm
    3tb hd 5400 rpm
    1tb nvme pcie 3.0
    PSU
    hx850w
    Keyboard
    mtek
    Internet Speed
    500/250 gpon
    Browser
    firefox 136.0.1
    Antivirus
    none
same, Windows Explorer and Setting apps are somehow extremely slow idk why, even the start menu is kinda slower at searching apps
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop

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