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I have an Asus X712F Vivo notebook and have just blown it out with some compressed air because the machine was beginning to feel quite warm and it was slowing down in general. I got some advice from some forum members to do tis as a build up of crud would so this. On opening the machine it was quite clogged on the cooling fan and as I said blew and brushed it clean. It found afterwards that the machine did indeed boot faster than it has been doing.
However I checked with HWInfo software the temps on the devices within the machine and am now concerned because the read out showed one of the cores on my i7-1005 10U is at 98C and is being throttled. What I would like to know is this going to be a problem- see pic.
Any thought really appreciated.
CORETEMPS.jpg
 

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Laptops run hot compared to desktops.
The cores in CPUs hardly ever run at the same temps.

Throttling is a good thing... especially in a laptop where temps do go high sometimes.
It keeps the CPU from burning up.

Try to never block any of the vents on a laptop, even a little bit. They need every bit of air they can get.

On HWInfo64 try to only go by the "Average" temps. The maximum temps can be misleading sometimes.
If the maximum temp is too high for too long... it will show in the "average" temps.

If the Average temps start going past 80C a lot of the time... then you need to worry.
 

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Ok mate sorry for the late reply but I accidentally disabled my internet connection and found I could not enable it again. But down to the core temps I found that setting the power options to balanced as oppose to the high power setting I had it in brought down that core 3 temp dramatically. So all is well on that front I have to wait now for a system restore to get back my settings etc:rolleyes: Never rains but it pours eh?
Anyway when the system is back and I have the net again on that machine (on main desktop right now) I shall do what you say;-)
 

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Ok Ghot mate I changed the power plan to the basic one instead of high power but I am still getting this readout form HWInfo showing core 3 is still being throttled and I notice it is being powered at a higher voltage than the core 1,2and 4 respectively. Unfortunately the laptop has a BIOS that is very basic and there seems to be no way of setting the core voltages as I can with my main desktop BIOS.
Is this normal for such a decent Intel CPU chip? see pic
CPUOVER2.jpg
 

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    Asus
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    Samsung 16GB DDR4 2666 MHz
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    On board Intel CPU graphics
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I'm just curious:
Do you ever run 'MSCONFIG', the Boot tab, and under Advanced, set the number of cores you actually have?

Give that a try, if it's not something you normally do, and see if that makes any difference.
OH, and while you're in there, set the Delay time from 30 sec's, down to 3 sec's, to speed up your boot time.

Happy Memorial Day,
TM :cool:
 

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Was the laptop idle when it reached 98°C or were running benchmarks or games at that time?
 

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Do you ever run 'MSCONFIG', the Boot tab, and under Advanced, set the number of cores you actually have?
Ok mate I haven't touched that setting as I was always under the impression that setting any number of cores was not advantageous - I was told that years ago and have never used more than what is default and that is 1 and greyed out. Anyway I will set say two cores at boot up and see what happens and also I might set the memory. Well before posting I trie this and got the message see pic?? Something is not right eh?
BOOTUPCONFIG.jpg
 

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    i7 -10510U
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    Samsung 16GB DDR4 2666 MHz
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That's weird!
For years, on literally hundreds of PC's, I've always set the number of cores to the number that the CPU actually has.
And I've had some really GOOD running PC's.
Oh well, Different Strokes, etc, etc, etc,

One Core? Hardly! Just another SAFE Default that hobbles the PC and keeps it from reaching its full potential.

Good Luck Mate,
TM :cool:
 

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Yes Techno it is rather strange that even being admin for this machine I cannot change those settings. I shall have a dig around to see whatI can find out. ;-)
 

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Techno I found this article and it does say that altering the boot options does not speed up the machine and should be left at f=default values.
 

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    Motherboard
    Asus
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    Samsung 16GB DDR4 2666 MHz
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    On board Intel CPU graphics
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That's like a married man, who just Thinks he's the King of his castle.

Good Luck,
TM :cool:
 

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Techno I found this article and it does say that altering the boot options does not speed up the machine and should be left at f=default values.
I agree with article. Tinkering with the settings is at best a waste of time and at worst might make things worse for most people.
 

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As others have stated, the setting for number of logical processors under Boot Advanced Options in msconfig should be left alone excepting only in situations where you need to work around some certain, specific, bug that can't be fixed any other way. An old example of such a specific bug (that probably got fixed a very long time ago by Microsoft) was described in this post.
 

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The Maximum column lists the highest peak value that has been attained during this HWiNFO monitoring session, 98 °C in your example screenshot, whereas the Current column lists the most recent (updated at regular time intervals) readout of the sensor in question. So, it's been at 98, but was at 65 right before you took the screenshot. That's not overly hot, but still hot enough for the laptop's cooling fan to get rather loud compared to when it's just hovering around 40. I use ThrottleStop to be able to quickly enable/disable Turbo Boost on my laptop's Intel CPU, the checkbox is only one mouseclick away.

The BD PROCHOT value (that you can also see in ThrottleStop or can query via the powercfg command) is what protects the CPU and possibly other hardware components against overheating. ThrottleStop also has a Limits button that lets you view the reasons why the CPU throttles itself when it happens (but when you click on this button it will tell you to exit HWiNFO before it can show those specific readouts). I used to be able to undervolt my CPU on previous old laptops with Intel Kaby Lake and older mobile CPUs from Intel via ThrottleStop, but on newer Intel CPUs the voltages are all locked.

Letting a (non gaming) consumer grade laptop the hardware cooling system in which isn't specifically designed to run at sustained max performance frequently and for prolonged periods of time constantly run hot has an inevitable impact on how fast it fills up with dust again like a vacuum cleaner, and the fan noise can tend to be painful when you're just surfing the internet with some music playing through loudspeakers as opposed to playing through noise cancelling headphones.

I don't usually care if it takes maybe up to half a second longer occasionally for the next web page to load in Firefox browser so, Turbo Boost stays off because the fan noise makes my head spin equally as fast as the cooling fan spins. lol Script blockers also can help to cool the Firefox down to some degree, but doing so breaks functionality of many websites. As websites keep always evolving, so does all the client-side scripting that slows me down. It's among main reasons why I buy a new laptop every ~3 years so I can stay closer to the sweet spot. Choosing to keep Turbo Boost turned off most of the time for silent computing on this affordable (but decently spec'd when it was still new 2.5 years ago) middle class Tiger Lake UP-3 laptop that I currently have was both faster and cheaper compared to any Tiger Lake UP-4 based "alternative". For more CPU hungry tasks (like, e.g., installing a Windows Cumulative Update :D) I turn Turbo Boost back on and I almost always leave my room until the task finishes.
 

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    i7 13650HX
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    16GB DDR5
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    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
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    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
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    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
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    3840×2160
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    Li-ion
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    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
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    Logitech K800
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    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
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    11 Home
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    Laptop
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    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
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    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
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    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
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    3840×2160
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    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
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    Li-ion
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    Logitech G402
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    Logitech K800
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    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
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    FF

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