Solved Crashes after Windows 11 upgrade and driver updates after hardware change.


I got the ram you suggested, in a sealed box (they did try to give me an unsealed one first), so thanks for the reminder on that. Only one stick runs.

Board single slot is A2. Two stick config is A2/B2
Where S1/S2 is Stick 1, Stick 2:

S1 in A2 = Runs
S1 in A2, S2 in B2 = No post
S2 in A2 = No post

So like. It just looks like a bad stick right. But being as it may the first set was bad, the second set being also bad is really atrocious luck, isn't it? Am I missing something?

I have opened another thread
If that's inappropriate let me know but it seems more appropriate there, now that the windows BSOD doesn't appear to be the key issue.
 
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I'd be worried about a faulty motherboard or CPU RAM controller, if it fails to boot, or crashes with S1 in B2!

Did you try S1 in B2?
 

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    Ryzen 9 5900X
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    ASRock B550 PG Velocita (UEFI-BIOS P3.40)
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I'd be worried about a faulty motherboard or CPU RAM controller, if it fails to boot, or crashes with S1 in B2!

Did you try S1 in B2?
Will attempt now. I haven't tried moving S1 around to other slots.
 

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  • OS
    windows 11
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    AMD Ryzen 5 7600X
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    TUF B650-E Wifi
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    CMK32GX5M2B5600C40 Vengeance 32GB 16x2 Ram
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    MSI 3060 12GB
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    27" Ultragear, 21" Asus
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    DPS-500AB-6 A shipped with ASUS OEM PC 2013
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I'd be worried about a faulty motherboard or CPU RAM controller, if it fails to boot, or crashes with S1 in B2!

Did you try S1 in B2?
I reseated both sticks and it posted. I may have made a mistake and hastily not done the basics. Apologies for wasting your time. I will run memtest overnight and report in tomorrow.
 

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  • OS
    windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
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    Homebuilt
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 7600X
    Motherboard
    TUF B650-E Wifi
    Memory
    CMK32GX5M2B5600C40 Vengeance 32GB 16x2 Ram
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI 3060 12GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" Ultragear, 21" Asus
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 x2
    Hard Drives
    WD 1000G SSD, WD 2000G HD
    PSU
    DPS-500AB-6 A shipped with ASUS OEM PC 2013
    Case
    Corsair 3000D
    Cooling
    MA612 CPU cooler, two 120MM case fans
    Internet Speed
    Canadian Cable :|
    Browser
    Firefox
I reseated both sticks and it posted. I may have made a mistake and hastily not done the basics. Apologies for wasting your time. I will run memtest overnight and report in tomorrow.
That's a common whoops, even when it looks like they're in properly!

My ROG Strix B550-F Gaming system (system two) crashed when running Superposition and after turning it off then back on, it failed to boot and got the LED for RAM! After I reseated the RAM on my second rig, it's been OK. That was many weeks ago.

I suspected that happened to me, because I changed the CPU cooler to a liquid cooler and the motherboard bowed a little bit.

In my case, looks like if I put pressure down on the motherboard, then I must reseat the RAM, or the RAM likely will become "disappeared" when it's operating.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro x64 23H2
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    Ryzen 9 5900X
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    ASRock B550 PG Velocita (UEFI-BIOS P3.40)
    Memory
    32 GB G.Skill F4-3200C16D-32GVR
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 6750 XT
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    Alienware AW3423DWF OLED ultrawide
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    Western Digital Black SN850 1 TB NVMe SSD
    PSU
    eVGA Supernova 750 G3
    Case
    Corsair 275R
    Internet Speed
    VTel FTTH 1 Gb down and 1 Gb up
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5800X3D
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F Gaming (UEFI-BIOS version 3607)
    Memory
    32 GB (2x16 GB G.Skill TridentZ Neo)
    Graphics card(s)
    Sparkle Titan Arc A770 16 GB
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Pro 512 GB NVMe SSD
    PSU
    eVGA Supernova 650 GQ
    Case
    Fractal Focus G
Will attempt now. I haven't tried moving S1 around to other slots.


The RAM is supposed to be installed in slots A2 and B2.
That's the 2nd and the 4th slots counting away from the CPU to the right.


I marked the proper slots with BLUE dots... (the grey slots)

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    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
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    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
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    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
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    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
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    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
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    Dell U3011 30"
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    2560 x 1600
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    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
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    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
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    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
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    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
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    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
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    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
@marky0140

By the way... just because the computer won't boot, with the new RAM, doesn't necessarily mean the RAM is bad.
On some motherboards, you need to set the RAM frequency, timings and voltage... manually.
 

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    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
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    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
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    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
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    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
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    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
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    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
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    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
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    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
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    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
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    Firefox 3.x ??
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    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
@marky0140

By the way... just because the computer won't boot, with the new RAM, doesn't necessarily mean the RAM is bad.
On some motherboards, you need to set the RAM frequency, timings and voltage... manually.
Yea, it wasn't that it wasn't booting, the board wasn't even posting. However, yea this stuff appears to be good. I ran a test on it overnight after seating it properly (it defaulted to 4800) and then I turned on EXPO before work and ran it again on that at 5600 and it passed both tests at like 8 or 9 passes. I installed the probably unnecessary but much shinier and slightly quieter PSU just now as well and everything is running well.

The ram has a lot of play even after the jaws close around it, enough that I could easily wiggle it away from the board enough to cause it to fail. It might be normal increase in tolerances or it might be that this board or range of boards leaves extra room there for whatever reason. Either way, I'm okay with that being a little irksome and also happy to live with it as long as they don't vibrate loose or something, which seems unlikely.

I'm still bemused by my experience at Memory Express. They told me they did "at least 5 passes" of testing on the first set of ram but they only had it for 25 minutes, so that seems unlikely. They also tried to pass me an already open box of this ram when I purchased it. Car salesmen levels of jank.
I appreciate all the help guys. I may try some overclocking down the road
Now I have two days of meetings to attend :) yay.
 

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    AMD Ryzen 5 7600X
    Motherboard
    TUF B650-E Wifi
    Memory
    CMK32GX5M2B5600C40 Vengeance 32GB 16x2 Ram
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI 3060 12GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" Ultragear, 21" Asus
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 x2
    Hard Drives
    WD 1000G SSD, WD 2000G HD
    PSU
    DPS-500AB-6 A shipped with ASUS OEM PC 2013
    Case
    Corsair 3000D
    Cooling
    MA612 CPU cooler, two 120MM case fans
    Internet Speed
    Canadian Cable :|
    Browser
    Firefox
However, yea this stuff appears to be good.



Good job. Also, I gave you ten cookies for filling out all your computer specs. :-)

The ASUS board I had before this one... also had sloppy RAM slots.
 

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    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3880 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

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