Default save location for newly installed programs still OneDrive


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I disabled OneDrive with the Group Policy Editor change from the Tutorials. I left it installed, on the off chance that I might want to use it again some day. It's stopped trying to sync, but...

Every time I install a new program, the default save folder for documents that it creates is c:\Users\Buddy\OneDrive\Documents. It's not hard to change that to c:\Users\Buddy\Documents, but it's still an aggravation and one that I'm likely to forget doing one of these days. At one time, I thought the save folder name was baked into the program install, but I've about decided that the program is getting that location from Windows and that it's OneDrive. So...

If there is a default save folder supplied by Windows, how do I change it?
 

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If there is a default save folder supplied by Windows, how do I change it?
The whole purpose of onedrive is to take control over system folders, so it could back them up.
If you want to place files in separate folders, just create something unrelated, like docs and so on.
I've thought about uninstalling OneDrive, but even that might not fix a setting located somewhere else.
It would, but make sure to disable ondemand only, or it will take all your files with it.
 

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@TairikuOkami Thanks for your comments, but I've already taken care of the two things you mentioned.

First, I have already gone into the preferences of all the programs that I installed and set them to save to folders directly under my c:\Users\Buddy.

Second, moved all my folders and files out from under the c:\Users\buddy\OneDrive folder before I disabled OneDrive with the Group Policy Editor setting, so there's nothing to lose.

In short, I've already stopped using OneDrive and have deleted everything from my OneDrive storage.

What I'm trying to do now is to stop Windows or the remnants of OneDrive or whatever else that is telling each newly installed program to set their default file save location in a folder under c:\users\buddy\OneDrive. I'd go ahead and uninstall OneDrive, but I don't know for sure that doing so would stop new programs, if the setting is somewhere controlled by Windows itself.
 

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Onedrive files are stored on the cloud and your pc. Are program files saving to documents in onedrive?
 

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Onedrive files are stored on the cloud and your pc. Are program files saving to documents in onedrive?

I understand how OneDrive works. You save a file into a specific folder tree on your PC and it gets synced to the cloud site. Any files in a folder in the tree under c:\users\"yourname" will gets synced.

The problem I'm trying to convey here is this: Even though I've disabled OneDrive, every time I install a NEW program, its default save folder is under c:\users\buddy\OneDrive. I'd wondered if that behavior was baked into the program install, but some of these are legacy programs and WAY predate OneDrive. So I can only assume that Windows is supplying the default save location to them. And I want to know where to go to change that setting, since it seems that disabling OneDrive left that behavior still functioning.

Trust me, I've Googled, but can't seem to find the right keywords to get the answer.
 

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I think I've probably gotten about as far as I can get with this.

Specifically, I recently installed VueScan. HP stopped supplying drivers long ago for my flatbed 7400 scanner, otherwise still a good piece. VueScan supports it. Even though I disabled OneDrive from Group Policy Editor AND also disabled using OneDrive as the default save location, VueScan continues to save its config files to C:\users\buddy\OneDrive.

I sent the VueScan folks a support question and they quickly replied that VueScan asks Windows for the default save location in CSIDL_MYPICTURES. So, it would seem that the CSIDL was set by Windows to push you to OneDrive and hasn't been changed to reflect disabling OneDrive as the default save location.

This is just one more reason why it looks like I should have uninstalled OneDrive first thing out of the box. I didn't do that, because I wanted to use it for a while and see if I liked it. I didn't. Now, six weeks later, it's still pestering me.

To those of you who use and like OneDrive, I have read plenty of posts and understand why it works for you. I'm just a one-person one-computer shop, no need to collaborate, no need to sync multiple computers. OD adds a layer of complexity that I don't need. And the few people that I do infrequently share data with all use Google Drive, which is less invasive in my meagre experience.
 

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Installed Macrium today. Started my first image backup a few minutes ago. And it reports that the backup definition file was saved to c:\users\buddy\OneDrive\Reflect. (To be completely clear, this is Macrium's xml file with the details of the backup parameters chosen, not the image itself, which correctly went where I pointed it.)

This behavior is after I turned off default saving to OneDrive using the Group Policy Editor. It looks like the CSIDL mentioned by the VueScan folks is also queried by Macrium and lots of other programs and that turning off default saves didn't reset it. If a program doesn't offer a settings option for where to save stuff, it keeps going to OneDrive even after you shut off OneDrive.

Yes, I realize the file was only saved locally, since I have OneDrive synching turned off. It's still an aggravation.

Does anyone know how and where to change the CSIDL? Or whether uninstalling OneDrive will reset it?
 

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I came here from the 'other' thread where you stated that you will go with Google Drive. That solves one aspect (the cloud aspect) of the issue.

The other aspect (the local aspect) remains, i.e. there is aggravation each time you install a new app. May be time to try out your own advice?

... I should have uninstalled OneDrive first thing out of the box.

I'm very much interested as I will face the exact same issue if and when I upgrade my workhorse to W11.
 

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@Haydon As the old saying goes " if I knew then what I know now".
 

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I was happy to find this thread today just to know that it was not just me that is aggravated by this behaviour... and that, like you, i thought I could try out onedrive on my shiny new laptop and see if it is useful and then disable or uninstall...but that onedrive file structure and default save location behaviour is like a tar baby...once you have touched it, you can not get rid of it... have you found out any further info on the CSIDL ?
 

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Instead of trying to find and edit a setting in the registry, that may mess up the handling of file types from several apps and that might just be reset with a cumulative update or baked in Windows troubleshooting tool, I suggest you just uninstall OneDrive.
The setup program for it should remain on your system in case you want to re install it at some point, uninstalling it will solve the issue of where files are saved without causing potential damage to the rest of your system.
This works fine on my system.
 

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thanks , thats good advice... i've uninstalled onedrive completely before i got more files scattered into it and i believe this is the best solution for me... thanks again..
 

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@tedtarg I scraped all over the web trying to find info about the CSIDL, to no avail. Not much luck poking around in the Registry, either. I finally gave up. It's somewhere, or else the VueScan developers wouldn't be referring to it. <shrug>

I originally posted about this in February. At that time, I was holding off on completely uninstalling OneDrive, to see how well using Google Drive worked out for me, as well as out of a bit of skepticism that completely uninstalling it might introduce some other woes. Or that MS might reinstall it as part of an update. Sort of leaving well enough alone...

Anyway, after reading plenty of posts where people successfully uninstalled OD, that's what I should have done when I was first setting up the PC. 20/20 hindsight. It's been a while since I've needed to install new software, but I'll get rid of OD before I do another install.
 

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I disabled OneDrive with the Group Policy Editor change from the Tutorials. I left it installed, on the off chance that I might want to use it again some day. It's stopped trying to sync, but...

Every time I install a new program, the default save folder for documents that it creates is c:\Users\Buddy\OneDrive\Documents. It's not hard to change that to c:\Users\Buddy\Documents, but it's still an aggravation and one that I'm likely to forget doing one of these days. At one time, I thought the save folder name was baked into the program install, but I've about decided that the program is getting that location from Windows and that it's OneDrive. So...

If there is a default save folder supplied by Windows, how do I change it?
First thing I do when I install a new drive is to open One Drive settings and turn off the backup function.
The One Drive menus vary somewhat between various Windows installations, but the capability is still there.

Below is the procedure for W11 22H2

1. Click on the One Drive Icon.

OD Icon on Task Bar.jpg

2. Click on the Settings Icon.

Menu after clicking on OD Icon.jpg

3. Click on Settings

Click on Settings.jpg

4. Click on Manage backup.

Manage Backup in Settings Menu.jpg

5. Turn off the folders you don’t want backed up.

Turn backup off.jpg

After doing these steps, I drag and drop files that I want backed up to OneDrive onto the One Drive folder on my C drive.
 

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@tedtarg I scraped all over the web trying to find info about the CSIDL, to no avail. Not much luck poking around in the Registry, either. I finally gave up. It's somewhere, or else the VueScan developers wouldn't be referring to it. <shrug>

I originally posted about this in February. At that time, I was holding off on completely uninstalling OneDrive, to see how well using Google Drive worked out for me, as well as out of a bit of skepticism that completely uninstalling it might introduce some other woes. Or that MS might reinstall it as part of an update. Sort of leaving well enough alone...

Anyway, after reading plenty of posts where people successfully uninstalled OD, that's what I should have done when I was first setting up the PC. 20/20 hindsight. It's been a while since I've needed to install new software, but I'll get rid of OD before I do another install.
The CLSID keys are easy enough to find with Regedit, for example here : Computer\HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\WOW6432Node\CLSID\
There can be hundreds of entries for both 64 & 32 bit handlers depending on the software you have installed, the keys are referenced by other keys in a nested method and are not as straightforward as 'open .txt with Notepad', although a few are that simple.
Unless you know exactly how the nested references work for a particular file type and application you can cause an awful lot of damage to a working system, hence the recommendation to just uninstall OneDrive as the easier, safer option. :-)
 

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RevoUninstaller to remove it completely, including using the Advanced option to remove all leftover files/folders/registry entries!!!

It can always be re-installed if needed again

To para-phrase, and with apologies to, King Henry II ... "Will no-one rid me of this turbulent beast"
 

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After I stopped syncing to OneDrive I uninstalled it. The C:\Users\<username>\OneDrive folder still exists but nothing ever goes into it.

I also have VueScan. The Default folder (i.e. save) location is C:\Users\<username>\Pictures. However, that can be changed to somewhere else.
The default configuration folder is C:\Users\<username>\Pictures\VueScan. That can't be changed.
 

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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS TUF Gaming A15 (2022)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 6800H with Radeon 680M GPU (486MB RAM)
    Memory
    Crucial DDR5-4800 (2400MHz) 32GB (2 x 16GB)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA RTX 3060 Laptop (6GB RAM)
    Sound Card
    n/a
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6-inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 300Hz
    Hard Drives
    2 x Samsung 980 (1TB M.2 NVME SSD)
    PSU
    n/a
    Mouse
    Wireless Mouse M510
    Internet Speed
    1200Mbps/250Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom build
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    ASUS PRIME X370-PRO
    Memory
    G.SKILL Flare X 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-RTX3060TI-08G-V2-GAMING (RTX 3060-Ti, 8GB RAM)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S23A300B (23-in LED)
    Screen Resolution
    1080p 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    2TB XPG SX8200 Pro (M2. PCIe SSD) || 2TB Intel 660P (M2. PCIe SSD) ||
    PSU
    Corsair RM750x (750 watts)
    Case
    Cooler Master MasterCase 5
    Cooling
    Corsair H60 AIO water cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech K350 (wireless)
    Keyboard
    Logitech M510 (wireless)
    Internet Speed
    1200 Mbps down / 200 Mbps up
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge, Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes (Premium)
    Other Info
    ASUS Blu-ray Burner BW-16D1HT (SATA) || Western Digital Elements 12TB USB 3.0 external hard drive used with Acronis True Image backup software || HP OfficeJet Pro 6975 Printer/Scanner
@MisterEd You must have uninstalled OneDrive before you installed VueScan. I didn't. My config folder is stuck at c:\Users\buddy\OneDrive\Pictures\Vuescan.

As you noted, you can indeed change the save location for the scans.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon G10
    CPU
    i5-1240p
    Memory
    16gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Whatever comes in it
    Sound Card
    Whatever comes in it
    Monitor(s) Displays
    No external monitor. Yet.
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    Internal 512 GB SSD
    Desktop 6 TB, 1 TB, 225 GB, all HDDs
    Portable 4TB SSD, 2TB HDD
    A whole army of USB flash memory sticks
    Mouse
    Logitech M317
    Internet Speed
    500 mbps Fiber
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    CalDigit TS4 dock for all my USB stuff, speakers, and connect to Android phone
    HP MFP M277dw laser printer/scanner

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