Defender is no longer a sub-par antivirus app

jerrypc1 · Mar 30, 2022

glasskuter said:
Just released 4 hours ago Despite no wins, Microsoft Defender continues to dazzle AV-TEST shows latest report

Thanks @glasskuter for your research

WXC · Mar 30, 2022

I personally use Windows Security (Defender) and Malwarebytes Premium. And most importantly, common sense.

Definitely solid protection.

The only issue I have with Windows Security, versus a paid AV, is its rather lackluster updating. I often find myself manually checking periodically throughout the day for latest updates. No biggie really, but it certainty does not compete with a paid AV in that respect.

Conversely, I have my Malwarebytes set to 'Auto' check every 15 minutes. Works perfectly!

CornishRattler · Mar 30, 2022

WXC said:
I personally use Windows Security (Defender) and Malwarebytes Premium. And most importantly, common sense.

Definitely solid protection.

The only issue I have with Windows Security, versus a paid AV, is its rather lackluster updating. I often find myself manually checking periodically throughout the day for latest updates. No biggie really, but it certainty does not compete with a paid AV in that respect.

Conversely, I have my Malwarebytes set to 'Auto' check every 15 minutes. Works perfectly!

I find myself checking Norton daily, that doesn't seem to update that often

WXC · Mar 30, 2022

CornishRattler said:
I find myself checking Norton daily, that doesn't seem to update that often

Interesting, thank you CR.

I was a long time Norton user but dropped them when they killed off NIS. It then seemed to become too bloated and commercialized (with Lifelock).

That was a couple years ago, so I cannot speak to its auto updating now. but at the time, it was great.

I suppose that too, has taken a dive. So unfortunate.

Again, thank you for the information. :wink:

Best regards.

Superfly · Mar 30, 2022

glasskuter said:
Just released 4 hours ago Despite no wins, Microsoft Defender continues to dazzle AV-TEST shows latest report

I've never been a WD fan... that graph is pretty much ... well like "we are all cool" - I'm struggling whether to keep Kaspersky (but that's for political reasons)

Hope they get the false positives sorted ..

After Defender flagged Office as virus, Microsoft gets serious about fixing false positives

Microsoft has published a guidance for security admins about reporting of potential false positives. This follows a recent incident when the firm's Office updates were flagged as malware by Defender.

www.neowin.net

... also ransomware should be more prominent in these tests.

BTW LOL at the Xploit... what a pillock!

CornishRattler · Mar 30, 2022

Superfly said:
I'm struggling whether to keep Kaspersky (but that's for political reasons)

BTW LOL at the Xploit... what a pillock!

Wife's work has ditch Kaspersky but then again she works in a .gov
Agreed, what a d!{kh@ad

imanlien2020 · Mar 30, 2022

Xploit Machine said:
i have disabled and removed Windows Defender (Virus & Threat Protection), hate it bcos I cant install cracked apps

Lol. As bad as what you said sounds, for me I get what your saying. I just moved to Avast from Bitdefender, I like both of them but yeah Windwos Defender Locks rubbish down but in a bad way for me. No reason to accept or agree or have to sit and tweak the AV for a few hours to get the settings to where I would need them to be. Irritating.

imanlien2020 · Mar 30, 2022

Superfly said:
I've never been a WD fan... that graph is pretty much ... well like "we are all cool" - I'm struggling whether to keep Kaspersky (but that's for political reasons)

Hope they get the false positives sorted ..

After Defender flagged Office as virus, Microsoft gets serious about fixing false positives

Microsoft has published a guidance for security admins about reporting of potential false positives. This follows a recent incident when the firm's Office updates were flagged as malware by Defender.

www.neowin.net

... also ransomware should be more prominent in these tests.

BTW LOL at the Xploit... what a pillock!

You can grab Bitdefender Total security for 6 months free. If you need a link let me know. I just finished 6 months of it free and moved back to Avast, what I was using prior.

CornishRattler · Mar 30, 2022

imanlien2020 said:
You can grab Bitdefender Total security for 6 months free. If you need a link let me know. I just finished 6 months of it free and moved back to Avast, what I was using prior.

Bitdefender is a real resource hog in my experience

Superfly · Mar 30, 2022

imanlien2020 said:
You can grab Bitdefender Total security for 6 months free. If you need a link let me know. I just finished 6 months of it free and moved back to Avast, what I was using prior.

I did try the cloud version a while back - can't recall why I ditched it ... but thanx

tinmar49 · Apr 2, 2022

WD seems to work ok for me and I also use the free Malwarebytes. I do do frequent manual scans with WD as well as with Malwarebytes. Also the offline scans at least once a week.
Good for z3r010 for getting rid of that ideot.

CornishRattler · Apr 2, 2022

So here's a question for those who use WD with a supplemental MWB:
Why, do you just not feel comfortable with just WD stand alone?

Fabler2 · Apr 2, 2022

CornishRattler said:
So here's a question for those who use WD with a supplemental MWB:
Why, do you just not feel comfortable with just WD stand alone?

Just good to have a second opinion if WD geta wobbly false positive. I rarely do a manual scan with either. I run updates scans more often with Winver and that keeps Malwarebytes up to date if it's needed.

CornishRattler · Apr 2, 2022

Fabler2 said:
Just good to have a second opinion if WD geta wobbly false positive. I rarely do a manual scan with either. I run updates scans more often with Winver and that keeps Malwarebytes up to date if it's needed.

Winget?

Fabler2 · Apr 2, 2022

CornishRattler said:
Winget?

Yup. Lack of concentration :woozy:

jerrypc1 · Apr 2, 2022

CornishRattler said:
So here's a question for those who use WD with a supplemental MWB:
Why, do you just not feel comfortable with just WD stand alone?

I use only windows Defender and I feel perfectly comfortable :yawn:

CornishRattler · Apr 2, 2022

jerrypc1 said:
I use only windows Defender and I feel perfectly comfortable

If it's supposed to be as good as these days I was just wondering if it was a case of historical muscle memory. I recently switched to Norton from WD because of a work thing, have to say I'm pretty impressed with it though

Roban · Apr 2, 2022

CornishRattler said:
So here's a question for those who use WD with a supplemental MWB:
Why, do you just not feel comfortable with just WD stand alone?

WD doesn't deal with spyware and malware. MB does. So, a scan with MB reveals a lot that WD doesn't.

tinmar49 · Apr 2, 2022

I use both WD and the free MWB because they don't cost me anything, they get on together and seem to work ok. In the past, I have used Norton, McAffe, AVG and Kaspersky, my worst virus attack was when using Norton, about 21 years ago.

CornishRattler · Apr 2, 2022

tinmar49 said:
my worst virus attack was when using Norton, about 21 years ago.

I think back then all AV's were worthless gimmicks, nothing replaces click care I suppose when all is said and done

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