Delayed S.O. shutdown


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Hello,
after the latest updates from version 22H2, I noticed that when I turn off the system, it stops normally, but not completely,
the fans and the power light remain on for another 20 sec. about.
What can be the cause?
Thank you
 

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Maybe the CPU temperature was high, so the delay is due to cool down the CPU. Sometimes it happens to me. The important thing is that your system is turn off within a reasonable time.
 

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MiguelAngel11 said:
Maybe the CPU temperature was high, so the delay is due to cool down the CPU. Sometimes it happens to me. The important thing is that your system is turn off within a reasonable time.
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No, I wouldn't say so, it doesn't exceed 50 °C
 

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    Asus Prime B365-Plus
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    32 Gb
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    Nvidia Quadro 2000D
As was stated it could be to a heat issue but I would say it's more likely 23h2 made changes to power management. The way Windows handles power depends a lot on a system's bios. No one knows exactly what changes MS made in 23H2 (or any update for that matter) that affects power. As 11 evolves it is not surprising if a 15 year old dual core cpu running an old bios experiences changes.
 

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Both of my Desktops don't immediately shut down but I attribute it more to doing an orderly clearing of data from memory and/or closing of programs so as not to lose anything.
 

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Is it not related to "fast startup" ? When this option is activated, after shutdown of the screen, Windows saves its configuration in order to make startup faster.
 

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JEF said:
Is it not related to "fast startup" ? When this option is activated, after shutdown of the screen, Windows saves its configuration in order to make startup faster.
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It didn't strike my mind [hammer not big enough] but it certainly could be the Windows 'housekeeping' doing it.
 

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JEF said:
Is it not related to "fast startup" ? When this option is activated, after shutdown of the screen, Windows saves its configuration in order to make startup faster.
Click to expand...
In my system there is no option to boot fast or not.
The issue arose with a June/August 2023 22H2 update.
The complete shutdown delay is approximately 15-20 sec. and in that period only the blue light remains on, but the disc light remains off..
 

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    Asus
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime B365-Plus
    Memory
    32 GB

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    Windows 7 UltimateIntel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz32 GbNvidia Quadro 2000D
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    Windows 7 Ultimate
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    Asus
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    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz
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    Asus Prime B365-Plus
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    32 Gb
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    Nvidia Quadro 2000D
I noticed that it reports an error in the events.

Screenshot 2023-11-28 185426.png

It may be because I moved the collection folders C:/ SSD to another D:/HDD?
The complete shutdown delay is approximately >30 sec. and in that period only the blue light remains on, but the disc light remains off..

I tried to restore possibly with FixDotNet, but it fails..

Screenshot 2023-11-28 181706.pngScreenshot 2023-11-28 181936.png
 

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    Windows-11-IoT Enterprise 24H2
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime B365-Plus
    Memory
    32 GB

  • At a glance

    Windows 7 UltimateIntel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz32 GbNvidia Quadro 2000D
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    Windows 7 Ultimate
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
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    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz
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    Asus Prime B365-Plus
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    32 Gb
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    Nvidia Quadro 2000D
I noticed that in windows\prefetch there is no longer the layout.ini file and it is no longer created even using "Rundll32.exe advapi32.dll,ProcessIdleTasks"
Thank you
 

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    Windows-11-IoT Enterprise 24H2
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime B365-Plus
    Memory
    32 GB

  • At a glance

    Windows 7 UltimateIntel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz32 GbNvidia Quadro 2000D
    Operating System
    Windows 7 Ultimate
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz
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    Asus Prime B365-Plus
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    32 Gb
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Quadro 2000D
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