Desperately want to uninstall 24H2; it won't


I quickly uninstalled 24H2 from System/Windows Updates and restarted.
Sorry you are unable to "go back". Normally it is a fairly seamless procedure. I am assuming when you uninstalled the update, something got discombobulated preventing it from completing. Of course, I have no way of knowing that for sure. I do know a windows update and a windows upgrade are not the same thing and handled differently when it comes to removal.. .An upgrade involves a more significant change to a newer version of Windows,
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.4061
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme+ 4gb Solidigm nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    #1 Edge #2 Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.4061
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink Mini PC SER5
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 6800U
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics card(s)
    integrated
    Sound Card
    integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Crucial nvme
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    System 3 is non compliant Dell 9020 i7-4770/24gb ram Win11 PRO 26100.4061
The 24H2 absolutely infinitely insane destruction of Alt-tab usage (AltTabSettings=1, CoolSwitch=12 rows, 12 columns) is more devastating than I can handle.
Apparently you are not alone in your anger, 62 at last count. No solution here either, but if enough people report it through the Feedback Hub perhaps MS will fix it....

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....I believe it is best to report the issue to Microsoft through Microsoft Feedback Hub (Windows key + F) . So they will get to know about this bug and provide a patch.
answers.microsoft.com | Latest Update of Windows 11 broke my legacy Alt Tab Settings when setting AltTabSettings to 1
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, and 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine.
This is why everyone should make backup images.
Going back would have been very easy.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
This is why everyone should make backup images.
Going back would have been very easy.

More on that in a second. Right now, I have no backup arrangement other than haphazard manual file copies. So I'm going to pull back from the thread for a couple of days as I comb through the files that I can collect on flash drives before a 23H2 install.

The rest is unrelated to the thread, but context on how I got to this point, if anyone wants to skip the rest of this post entry.

I'm not saying this for drama or validation but I've had horrid experiences with backups beginning 10 years ago with Acronis, so bad that I'll never use that brand again, but I haven't identified a replacement. Long story, but it includes THEIR uninstall leaving important things nonfunctional on one box; and on a W7 that I still use daily, startup now flashes something like "snapshot manager failed to load" when powered on from shutdown, and Restore Points don't work - but Acronis refuses to even restore files (I'm using god mode anger restraint right now). SO I just am not backing up right now, and I know that some of you want to just slap me. I'm just freaked out from bad experiences and am frozen in analysis paralysis with finding a smart interfaced backup (and need to find someone to repair that W7 - it's apparently too big for me to solve).

I'm also intimidated by the whole backup paradigm now, where I gather that it's modular and SOME of it is ghosts/images and some is just collections of files and folders. And 99.5% of everyone I know just does "full restores" from a day or week or such ago backup when they see something go wrong. I change so many files every day that I want fine control, and I just haven't identified which backup to use. SO... I am not using ANYTHING right now. Just Restore Points (except where I can't), and haphazard flash drive copies. I know it's madness but that's where I'm at. (I wasn't always such a dweeb. I used to have a dozen guru friends who got me reading Peter Norton and me programming Assembler. TC2.01, TASM, TD, I gorged on it all. 3 hours a day on USENET. FASTBACK was my favorite backup. I see a Colorado Trakker tape drive over on a bookshelf in the corner now! But my human network disappeared and I slowly sank and my current expertise is silly putty. Everything used to be linear and straightforward; it may feel that way currently to others, but not me.)

And because of adventures like this one with 24H2, I have automatic updates turned off; almost never take them until they put a gun to my head; and that strategy has worked. Updates and upgrades change things that are costly and painful to readjust to. Sometimes you just lose capabilities. This happens a lot, a ton, which is why I more enjoy using my 2004 Compaq Presario with XP than any of my 4 other devices; after many painful updates and restores from backups, I said no mas to ANY updates I could. And never CARE about EOL because I never want their help or updates or anything at ALL! - just to leave me alone totally. Like I wish they would with W11.

So I'm going way against the grain. And I've endured more times than countable "you need to get out of your old fashioned ways. EOL exists for a reason and you're just beating yourself up by defying it." "Grow up." But bottom line, I am doing as few updates as humanly possible. And until I find a backup with interface that I LIKE and understand, I'm living like a non-backed-up madman. And to me "recommended updates" means "avoid if human possible".

Just giving more context than anyone cares about, even if some quietly react with "to heck with this loser".

I need to regroup for a day or two to prepare and absorb the tremendous assistance given so far before I begin surgery. THANK you, and TBC.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro Build 19045 (22H2); Windows 11 Pro Build 26100.1 (24H2) - or maybe 23H2 if I CAN...
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex and Latitude
I wouldn’t look at it as complicated or a massive task.

  • Sure, backup what you can get your hands on.
  • A System Image is pointless at the point as you’d only be creating a system image for 24H2. Also, you need a secondary or external drive big enough, 500GB would be good. 1TB better.
  • Avoid UUDUMP, you have a enough problems.
    • The US English 23H2 ISO I have on my server is from me (2023)
    • The UK English 23H2 ISO is from pseymour and is on my server. It was last updated to the latest 23H2 in May (New Upload 25th May) 2025. Mr Seymore is a systems admin and respected in here. I’m a scary clown.
    • There are also other members that have 23H2 ISO’s available, but it’s not for me to nominate them.
  • Clean install.
    • If your system is Windows 11 ready, then sure you have the possibility that 24H2 will be forced on you. As we have discovered (I think) 23H2 end of life is around November so the Target Feature Fix Tutorial may cease to work.
    • I would recommend the app in post #20. I forgot to mention the app can also update installed software’s that have available Updates

Take a break, cheers.
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631.5335
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    5 x LG 25MS500-B - 1 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech: G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    1000/400Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
P.S.

You’ll do fine, everyones got your back (y) 🙏
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631.5335
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    5 x LG 25MS500-B - 1 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech: G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    1000/400Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
I’d probably ask for help with the issues being faced with using 24H2 as supposed to rolling back.

Those tab issues he's talking about are gonna need some kind of a new hack of some sort

But by November, I am hoping issues are fixed before I upgrade. Or jump straight to 25H2

That's my hope, too. That's why I'm waiting until the last minute to update to it. Any fixes can happen in the next 6 months.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Pro
    Memory
    32GB
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkPad P14s Gen 3 Intel (14”) Mobile Workstation - Type 21AK
    Memory
    32GB
You can also use Steve Gibsons little windows update blocking tool, it's called InControl.
I'm on 23H2 and using the InControl app. Have read about it, it's a very small app of just 96kb, and simple to use.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home Version 23H2 OS Build 22631.5039
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Centre Com Karuza Taurus Core i5 12400F RTX 4060 Ti Gaming PC
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5GHZ 18M LGA1700 Processor
    Motherboard
    MSI B660M-A PRO WIFI DDR4 DDR4 LGA1700 mATX
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance RGB RS 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz C16 RAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4060 Ti EAGLE 8G Graphics Card
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" Benq GW2760
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Kingston SNV2S/1000G NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 2280 SSD
    PSU
    Corsair RM750e 80+ Gold 750W Power Supply
    Case
    Cooler Master MasterBox K501L ARGB Tempered Glass Side Panel MCB-K501L-KGNN-SR3
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper 212 Spectrum V3 CPU Cooler - Cooler Master MasterFan MF120 Halo ARGB 120mm Fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech G213
    Mouse
    Steelseries Sensei Ten
    Internet Speed
    Download Mbps 933.65 Upload Mbps 47.44
    Browser
    Firefox 136.0.2 (64-bit)
    Antivirus
    Eset Internet Security v18.0.12.0
    Other Info
    Canon iX6860 Inkjet Printer
    Brother MFC-L2880DW Laser Printer
    Mercusys MR90X AX6000 8-Stream Wi-Fi 6 Router
    Logitech 5.1 Speakers
The old Windows (before the update)) is saved on the Windows.old folder.
Do you still have it? The folder may be hidden, so you should set Explorer to show system and hidden files and folders.
If you do you can manually recover it.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro - Windows 7 HP 64 - Lubuntu
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    custom build
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4400MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Win 11
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    (4) -1 BX500 SSD - 128G for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Q550LF
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800- 3000MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs
    & 1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
No longer an option for member.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631.5335
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    5 x LG 25MS500-B - 1 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech: G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    1000/400Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
Something wonderful and unexplainable happened. Alt-tab operation inexplicably returned to me (AltTabSettings=1). At least for now.

Too much to say. I'm working on a long writeup. Short version: Out of the blue, an "upgrade" autostarted upon a restart, several (under 10) days after I did the 24H2 upgrade; when I got control, I instantly went Go Back, and this time it inexplicably DID work, and I'm back to 11 Pro / 10.0.22631 Build 22631.

My immediate next moves will probably be
1. Confirm Windows Update does not auto update. (It's the first thing I set when I buy a machine, but considering recent hell, double check).

2. From #17,19 above, " Specify Target Feature Update Version in Windows 11
This tutorial will show you how to specify a TargetReleaseVersion version of Windows 11" ... [option 2, Registry change]
Maybe InControl(#28) or WAU Manager(#20) atop that?

3. Buy an external drive, probably same size as the SSD inside my Dell laptop.
BTW I have a VERY old enclosure "Ultra" - "Compact, External Hard Dick Enclosure...Supports any ATA 133 3.5" hard disk drive".
"USB and FireWire interface" ... "USB 2.0 480 mb/s" ... "1394a: 400 mb/s" "Supports Windows XP" (I told you, old!)

4. Make a System image
www.google.com/search?q=restore+system+image+windows+11 has a pcMag guide (unless I missed something better in our thread?)

5. How to create Windows 11 bootable USB to bypass requirements with Rufus (#17)

I'll give more info later. I was already severely underwater in time/busyness when the 24H2 hell stepped on my underwater head. That's what your "we know what you want better than you do" forced change terror acts do, Microsoft. So, TBC when I can! And BTW, too many posts` and people to thank in the forum. But right now I'm 22631 23H2 and got there within 10 days. I was ready to wipe the drive and drop to Win 10, the 24H2 destruction MS chose was so bad. Now, maybe that will occur November 2025...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro Build 19045 (22H2); Windows 11 Pro Build 26100.1 (24H2) - or maybe 23H2 if I CAN...
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex and Latitude
"we know what you want better than you do"

Actually, No.

It’s “This is how we want our Operating System to evolve” If that isn’t understandable I don’t know what is.
I don’t think I’d appreciate someone coming to my place to visit and start telling me how to run my home.

Glad it’s sorted for you for the time being (y)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631.5335
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    5 x LG 25MS500-B - 1 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech: G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    1000/400Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
One or more of these links may be useful to block Windows updates:


Pause windows updates for 20 years:


GRC | InControl
GRC | InControl


How to Specify Target Feature Update Version in Windows 11 | Tutorials
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
    Motherboard
    Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
    Memory
    16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
    Hard Drives
    Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Mobile Workstation
I've got a new problem staring at me.

Let me profess I'm a dunce about updates and upgrades. My total understanding is that you go into Windows Update (WU) the day you buy a machine, and say "ask me first". What could be simpler.

But it seems that 10 and 11's H2 don't play that way. At least 11. At some point 11 said, even though I said "ask first", ~"you need 23H2. Click here to delay". And after doing that a few weeks it said ~"no more delays permitted. Click here to upgrade, or we'll do it at midnight". I assume that at some point 24H2 will do the same. But I did 24H2, then a Go Back, and I thought I was okay.

RIGHT NOW Windows Update says "Restart required (estimate: 15-45 min)
Your device will restart outside of active hours."
A dropdown lets me either "Restart now" or "Schedule restart"

Question: what will stop this? The registry item freeze I linked above, "Specify Target"? Or In Control?

Summary of how I got here in 2025:
23 May:
Windows told me I need 24H2. I clicked OK to start immediately.
After several "automatic" reboots, login screen, I logged in - and hated it.
I clicked to uninstall 24H2 in Windows Update.
It stayed 24H2.
I clicked to Go Back.
It gave me a big blue "you can't go back".

About 30 May:
Machine froze hard, first time ever, while browsing. Held down power key until off. Pressed power key.
~ "Your machine is updating. Leave power on. May reboot several times"
When I got control, I again tried Go Back.
Go Back WORKED. Became 23H2. It still is at this moment.

4 June, now:
Windows Update acts like it is going to plow forward into 24H2. @#$@$# !!! ("Restart required" described above on this post).

BTW, the Windows Update item "Get the latest updates as soon as they're available" is slid OFF.
Pause updates dropdown has "Pause for 1 week"

Forgive my ignorance in not following your advice with the 3 things, registry, More Control, WAU. Are these "more powerful" than just telling WU not to update? Are there 2 types of upgrades, 'normal' ones that you can select or ignore in WU, however you must take stronger actions than that to prevent H2 updates? Is that what the registry and 3rd party items address? (And even then, is the belief that any solution just stalls for time until EOL upon which they will force H2 anyway?)

Bottom line: it is trying NOW to put 24H2 on me again even though I went Go Back 5 days ago.

One more data piece FWIW: WU/:"Update History" says:
"Failed to install on 5/30/25 - 0x80242016".

But that's when I went Go Back. Why won't he just accept my Go Back?

And what do I need to do now?

I HATE doing this to you. Forgive my abruptness. I am absolutely furious. And am hemorrhaging MORE time I'm at the end of my rope, and the moment that this machine drops to Sleep mode, I fear that it will say "Beginning upgrade. Do not power off your computer".
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro Build 19045 (22H2); Windows 11 Pro Build 26100.1 (24H2) - or maybe 23H2 if I CAN...
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex and Latitude
80242016 The state of the update after its post-reboot operation has completed is unexpected.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
    Motherboard
    Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
    Memory
    16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
    Hard Drives
    Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Mobile Workstation
Microsoft thinks it has a captive audience now, so they do what they want to, not what you want them to do.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Build 26100.4202, Experience Pack 1000.26100.107.0
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14500
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M G P WIFI
    Memory
    64GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    Chipset Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 45" Ultragear, Acer 24" 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    5120x1440, 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD (O/S)
    Silicon Power 2TB US75 Nvme PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280 SSD (backup)
    Crucial BX500 2TB 3D NAND (2nd backup)
    External off-line backup Drives: 2 NVMe 4TB drives in external enclosures
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W
    Case
    LIAN LI LANCOOL 216 E-ATX PC Case
    Cooling
    Lots of fans!
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Build 26100.4202, Experience Pack 1000.26100.107.0
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Sound Card
    Realtek Embedded
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" HP 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 eD NAND PCIe SSD
    Samsung EVO 990 2TB NVMe Gen4 SSD
    Samsung 2TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    Thermaltake Smart BM3 650W
    Case
    Okinos Micro ATX Case
    Cooling
    Fans
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Security
I've got a new problem staring at me.

Let me profess I'm a dunce about updates and upgrades. My total understanding is that you go into Windows Update (WU) the day you buy a machine, and say "ask me first". What could be simpler.

But it seems that 10 and 11's H2 don't play that way. At least 11. At some point 11 said, even though I said "ask first", ~"you need 23H2. Click here to delay". And after doing that a few weeks it said ~"no more delays permitted. Click here to upgrade, or we'll do it at midnight". I assume that at some point 24H2 will do the same. But I did 24H2, then a Go Back, and I thought I was okay.

RIGHT NOW Windows Update says "Restart required (estimate: 15-45 min)
Your device will restart outside of active hours."
A dropdown lets me either "Restart now" or "Schedule restart"

Question: what will stop this? The registry item freeze I linked above, "Specify Target"? Or In Control?

Summary of how I got here in 2025:
23 May:
Windows told me I need 24H2. I clicked OK to start immediately.
After several "automatic" reboots, login screen, I logged in - and hated it.
I clicked to uninstall 24H2 in Windows Update.
It stayed 24H2.
I clicked to Go Back.
It gave me a big blue "you can't go back".

About 30 May:
Machine froze hard, first time ever, while browsing. Held down power key until off. Pressed power key.
~ "Your machine is updating. Leave power on. May reboot several times"
When I got control, I again tried Go Back.
Go Back WORKED. Became 23H2. It still is at this moment.

4 June, now:
Windows Update acts like it is going to plow forward into 24H2. @#$@$# !!! ("Restart required" described above on this post).

BTW, the Windows Update item "Get the latest updates as soon as they're available" is slid OFF.
Pause updates dropdown has "Pause for 1 week"

Forgive my ignorance in not following your advice with the 3 things, registry, More Control, WAU. Are these "more powerful" than just telling WU not to update? Are there 2 types of upgrades, 'normal' ones that you can select or ignore in WU, however you must take stronger actions than that to prevent H2 updates? Is that what the registry and 3rd party items address? (And even then, is the belief that any solution just stalls for time until EOL upon which they will force H2 anyway?)

Bottom line: it is trying NOW to put 24H2 on me again even though I went Go Back 5 days ago.

One more data piece FWIW: WU/:"Update History" says:
"Failed to install on 5/30/25 - 0x80242016".

But that's when I went Go Back. Why won't he just accept my Go Back?

And what do I need to do now?

I HATE doing this to you. Forgive my abruptness. I am absolutely furious. And am hemorrhaging MORE time I'm at the end of my rope, and the moment that this machine drops to Sleep mode, I fear that it will say "Beginning upgrade. Do not power off your computer".
Can you pause updates for 5 weeks? That drop down box should have up to 5 weeks. Underneath one week - try clicking on that. But yes 24H2 is rolling out and installing unless you keep pausing updates.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
Can you pause updates for 5 weeks? That drop down box should have up to 5 weeks. Underneath one week - try clicking on that. But yes 24H2 is rolling out and installing unless you keep pausing updates.
Thank you. I did do that this minute, Now it's 5 weeks. (FYI upon that click, WU began a thin "progress bar" rapidly going across the top of the screen under the words "Pausing updates...") and that continued for about 90 seconds. Now the top blue button in WU says "Resume updates" instead of "check for updates", and the top of the page says "Updates paused until 7/9/25" (which is 5 weeks from now).

I'm still fuzzy on how this action and WU generally coordinates with InControl(e.g. #28) or WAU Manager(#20). THANK those of you bringing these up and I'll use one (or both, if that is recommended) - hopefully stymying WU?

I really feel awful dumping thing after thing and I owe about 30 Likes and personal thanks yous and specific responses. I'm just in "immediate crisis" mode. At least I'm trying very hard to give every plausibly significant information point, avoiding nongermane typing (except to tell MS to GFT, those MFs), and spending a truly embarrassing amount of time editing and tweaking every one of these emails posts to TRY to cut down the length. THANK every single person that even spends the selfless time to read this.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro Build 19045 (22H2); Windows 11 Pro Build 26100.1 (24H2) - or maybe 23H2 if I CAN...
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex and Latitude
Thank you. I did do that this minute, Now it's 5 weeks. (FYI upon that click, WU began a thin "progress bar" rapidly going across the top of the screen under the words "Pausing updates...") and that continued for about 90 seconds. Now the top blue button in WU says "Resume updates" instead of "check for updates", and the top of the page says "Updates paused until 7/9/25" (which is 5 weeks from now).

I'm still fuzzy on how this action and WU generally coordinates with InControl(e.g. #28) or WAU Manager(#20). THANK those of you bringing these up and I'll use one (or both, if that is recommended) - hopefully stymying WU?

I really feel awful dumping thing after thing and I owe about 30 Likes and personal thanks yous and specific responses. I'm just in "immediate crisis" mode. At least I'm trying very hard to give every plausibly significant information point, avoiding nongermane typing (except to tell MS to GFT, those MFs), and spending a truly embarrassing amount of time editing and tweaking every one of these emails posts to TRY to cut down the length. THANK every single person that even spends the selfless time to read this.
I just had something similar. I've been pausing updated for 5 weeks at a time, but it ran out before I checked and was trying to install 24H2. I immediately checked pause updates for 5 weeks again and "pausing" got stuck (your 90 seconds was hours for me). I fully expected to find 24H2 had installed when I restarted, but it hadn't and updates had been paused again for another 5 weeks. Just keep pausing them every 5 weeks until you're ready to upgrade, If you decide to upgrade then just do a system image first - as others have suggested. So if it's not right and you don't like it, you just reinstall your image again. If you really can't get on with doing images then just copy and save files (documents, downloads, pictures etc) to an external drive. And remember to screenshot installed programs and add those screenshots to your external drive (so you can remember exactly what was installed) and also export bookmarks and save that to the external drive as well.

Then you could just clean install 23H2 again, and re-add programs and files. But it's much easier to just reinstall an image again.

If you can't get on with imaging software, then the Windows 7 imaging built into windows still actually works and is quite simple to use. Control panel - select large icons - Backup and Restore Windows 7. For that you just need an external usb hard drive, and let the program create the image.

If you need to reinstall it you just need a usb stick with windows 11 on (any version) and boot from that to restore your image. The downside to that with recent computers is you need two free usb ports! One for the external drive and one for the usb stick - and not all computers have that now.

Do you have a machine with just one usbc port? Or at least one usba and one usbc?

What was it you didn't like about 24H2? I will upgrade eventually but I'm putting it off until I'm ready and have time to tweak it once its installed.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
"Fast" answer @Hazel123 before I go away for a while. All great advice, and I'll utilize every point. Great help there, all of it.

All of the following in this post regards
> What was it you didn't like about 24H2?

There's something called z-order maintained for when you go alt-tab, which might be called "last in, first out" so the first thing you highlight upon alt-tab is the most recent focused window, and while holding alt, if you tab, you get the "next-next" most recent focused, and tab again, the next most, etc., as you tab, circling through window icons while holding alt. One vital feature is that if you go alt-tab and release, you get a "toggle" to the prior focus window. That effectively reverses "position 1 and position 2". Doing that successively, even interrupted by typing or clicking within one of the pair, even temporarily invoking and closing another window, thus lets you instantly repeatedly toggle between 2 windows. Every 2 seconds, or even a minute or hour or day later. This is vital and fundamental for every computer user I've every encountered. Going back and forth between 2 windows with a single keystroke might be done even hundreds of times a day for some businesses or technicians or even anyone copy/pasting between windows. (However if you have something like 6 or less windows going at a time, fine, take your mouse down to the Windows taskbar, click to open, click to select if more than one of those. SOME people needn't use alt-tab at all, because they wouldn't need it to rapidly navigate.)

A further vital aspect of alt-tab and z-order is alt-Escape. That "pulls a window out of the z-order", and pushes that window to the "other end of the stack" which means SHIFT-alt-tab progresses through every window that got alt-ESC, in the order THEY were pushed; and ultimately shift-alt-tab (and repeated tab presses) circles through the list of windows back to the start, the current window. Net effect, the first 5 alt-tab icons are the 5 you want to have close by, "first on the list" without time-assassinating distracting window icons that you "pushed out of the way".

Another serious 24H2 infliction is "preview windows" are mandatory. This slows navigation down massively if you have more than 10 or 12 windows open because you can't see them all; you must scroll. (Before 24H2 a 12 by 12 grid of icons was simple to achieve. And if you DID want, you could always cost-free go Win-tab to use that style, which also frees needing to hold alt. And you could still use taskbar freely.).

Note, what I've described above was attempted to be eliminated by MS beginning with Win 7. However in response to the screaming user blowback they let people continue sanely with AltTabSettings=1 in Registry and continue to work at full speed and effectiveness. W8, W10 and even Win 11 did fine in initial years.

Until 24H2. Microsoft declared that you CANNOT operate that way now if you take 24H2. And apparently you MUST take 24H2. That is severe. Very severe. 24H2 forces "new alt-tab" which kills user capability. It apparently has god invulnerability. Even 3rd party winaero has no fix for it. Please tell me if/when one appears. 24H2 forces severe efficiency destruction and productivity destruction. Not a little "oh, you'll get used to it" cute change. BTW they're destroying how Windows P.C.s have operated for 25 years. Since Win 98 IINM. It's so bad that I exploded and started this thread - SOLELY because of alt-tab.

So THAT is why I desperately wish to prevent 24H2 here. So much that I'll wipe my drive and install W10 when they force me to take 24H2. (Maybe even W7, which is IMO a far better experience.) (Haha! I still use XP - daily - for well suited tasks on another box.)

More length than you asked for, but I just got in a "zone" and typed up a storm, sorry for the length. I'm not always smart enough to grasp what is "too little info" vs. too much, especially on nonvocal communication, and obviously technical; so erring on the side of caution with this painful long length. And including colorful conveyance of context and rationale in case it clarifies. FWIW
 

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  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro Build 19045 (22H2); Windows 11 Pro Build 26100.1 (24H2) - or maybe 23H2 if I CAN...
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex and Latitude

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