Disable Trim on HDD


Pebble

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I've got a 500GB SSD and a 2TB HDD for my files.
I deleted a file on my HDD and found nearly all files were unrecoverable.

How can i disable TRIM on my HDD?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus ROG Strix
    CPU
    i7 14700KF
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix Z790
    Memory
    32Gb DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    8GB Nvidia Geforce RTX 3050
    Sound Card
    Creative Soundblaster Audigy RX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus VA24EHF
    Screen Resolution
    1080
    Hard Drives
    500Gb Samsung 980
    2TB Seagate Barracuda SATA 3
    PSU
    Corsair 650 CX
    Cooling
    PCS FrostFlow 200 Series High Performance CPU Cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech
Hello, :alien:

TRIM is only a feature of a SSD or NVMe drive, and not for a spinner HDD.

Unless you secure erase (overwrite) a file, a file is only marked as deleted when you delete it. As you continue to write to a HDD, it can overwrite areas on the drive marked as deleted. Once overwritten, it makes it very hard if not impossible to recover.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom self build
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING (11GB GDDR5X)
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G75 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    TerraMaster F8 SSD Plus NAS
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3 wall mounted
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Amazon Basics Wired Full Keyboard MD005
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 4
    Internet Speed
    2 Gbps Download and 100 Mbps Upload
    Browser
    Chrome and Edge
    Antivirus
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    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Surface Laptop 7 Copilot+ PC
    CPU
    Snapdragon X Elite (12 core) 3.42 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB LPDDR5x-7467 MHz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15" HDR
    Screen Resolution
    2496 x 1664
    Hard Drives
    1 TB SSD
    Internet Speed
    Wi-Fi 7 and Bluetooth 5.4
    Browser
    Chrome and Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
Done a bit more research And the HDD has SED (Self-Encrypting Drive).

I've read that it is possible to deactivate this feature. how could i deactivate it?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus ROG Strix
    CPU
    i7 14700KF
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix Z790
    Memory
    32Gb DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    8GB Nvidia Geforce RTX 3050
    Sound Card
    Creative Soundblaster Audigy RX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus VA24EHF
    Screen Resolution
    1080
    Hard Drives
    500Gb Samsung 980
    2TB Seagate Barracuda SATA 3
    PSU
    Corsair 650 CX
    Cooling
    PCS FrostFlow 200 Series High Performance CPU Cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech
The exact method can vary depending on the HDD brand and model.

Basically, you would need to delete the drive's PSID (encryption key).

Some manufacturers (e.g., Crucial) provide tools to send a PSID reset command. You'll need to check the HDD manufacturer's site to see if such a tool (ex: Crucial Storage Executive) is available.

Doing this could also wipe everything on the HDD, so be sure to back up anything you don't want to lose first.

 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom self build
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING (11GB GDDR5X)
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G75 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    TerraMaster F8 SSD Plus NAS
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3 wall mounted
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Amazon Basics Wired Full Keyboard MD005
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 4
    Internet Speed
    2 Gbps Download and 100 Mbps Upload
    Browser
    Chrome and Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Surface Laptop 7 Copilot+ PC
    CPU
    Snapdragon X Elite (12 core) 3.42 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB LPDDR5x-7467 MHz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15" HDR
    Screen Resolution
    2496 x 1664
    Hard Drives
    1 TB SSD
    Internet Speed
    Wi-Fi 7 and Bluetooth 5.4
    Browser
    Chrome and Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
@Pebble

Please provide full details of your HDD - Manfacturer, Model No, Capacity

"I've read that it is possible to deactivate this feature. how could i deactivate it?" Please provide the address of the website where you read it.

Also post a full screenshot of Windows Disk Management with both the SSD and HDD in place.

That should provide more information that may help people to decipher what exactly could have happened and check for a solution.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro Version:25H2 OS Build: 26200.8524
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink Mini PC Model: SEi12
    CPU
    12th Gen Intel core i5-1235U(Alder
    Motherboard
    SEi (manufactured by AZW)
    Memory
    16*2 (32 GB) DDR 4-3200(1600MHz) Crucial Technology
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics (Internal)
    Sound Card
    Internal
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BenQ GW2283
    Screen Resolution
    1920*1080
    Hard Drives
    500GB NVME (Kingston SNV2S500G)
    1TB (Crucial CT1000BX500SSD1)
    PSU
    Power Brick 19V-6.32A , 120.08W
    Keyboard
    Dell KB3322Wi (Wireless)
    Mouse
    Dell WM118t (Wireless)
    Internet Speed
    4G/5G
    Browser
    MS Edge, Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes Premium - Subscription
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home Version 25H2 Build 26200.8524
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 3280 AIO 22"
    CPU
    Intel Core i3 8145U
    Motherboard
    Dell inc. 027W48
    Memory
    Intel Optane 16GB module + DDR 4 16GB (Optane disabled.)
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 620
    Sound Card
    Internal
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell Monitor 22"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial CT1000BX500SSD1 ; 1000,2 GB
    PSU
    Power Brick
    Case
    All-in one
    Keyboard
    Dell Wireless KM636
    Mouse
    Dell Wireless KM 636
    Internet Speed
    4G
    Browser
    Edge, Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    Upgraded from Windows 10 Home to Windows 11 Home on 28 Oct 2023
@jumaji

I no longer have the link's to the site's i looked on.
Nothing has happened, It just a 'feature' that has been added to HDD's.
I decided to keep the drive as it is for now, There would be a lot of work involved in backing up first, Also a couple of site's
mentioned problems with the drrive after removing SED.

Decided on the simple solution of using the recycle bin until i get my other computer up and running
and look into it a bit more then.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus ROG Strix
    CPU
    i7 14700KF
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix Z790
    Memory
    32Gb DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    8GB Nvidia Geforce RTX 3050
    Sound Card
    Creative Soundblaster Audigy RX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus VA24EHF
    Screen Resolution
    1080
    Hard Drives
    500Gb Samsung 980
    2TB Seagate Barracuda SATA 3
    PSU
    Corsair 650 CX
    Cooling
    PCS FrostFlow 200 Series High Performance CPU Cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech
@jumaji

I no longer have the link's to the site's i looked on.
Nothing has happened, It just a 'feature' that has been added to HDD's.
I decided to keep the drive as it is for now, There would be a lot of work involved in backing up first, Also a couple of site's
mentioned problems with the drrive after removing SED.

Decided on the simple solution of using the recycle bin until i get my other computer up and running
and look into it a bit more then.
Are you really saying you have important data on the drive with no backup? 🤨
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8524
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14500
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M G P WIFI
    Memory
    64GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    Chipset Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 45" Ultragear, Acer 24" 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    5120x1440, 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD (O/S)
    Silicon Power 2TB US75 NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280 SSD (backup)
    Crucial BX500 2TB 3D NAND (2nd backup)
    Seagate 4TB Ironwolf, rotating HDD archive files
    External off-line backup Drives: 2 NVMe 4TB drives in external enclosures
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W
    Case
    LIAN LI LANCOOL 216 E-ATX PC Case
    Cooling
    Lots of fans!
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8524
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Sound Card
    Realtek Embedded
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" HP 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 eD NAND PCIe SSD
    Samsung EVO 990 2TB NVMe Gen4 SSD
    Samsung 2TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    Thermaltake Smart BM3 650W
    Case
    Okinos Micro ATX Case
    Cooling
    Fans
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
@gunrunnerjohn

Always have backup's, But i've just got thing's how i want them.

Just got a second computer with a 2TB drive on that. I'll wait until the second computer is running (Win 11) on SSD,
And play the 2TB HDD which is blank on the new computer.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus ROG Strix
    CPU
    i7 14700KF
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix Z790
    Memory
    32Gb DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    8GB Nvidia Geforce RTX 3050
    Sound Card
    Creative Soundblaster Audigy RX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus VA24EHF
    Screen Resolution
    1080
    Hard Drives
    500Gb Samsung 980
    2TB Seagate Barracuda SATA 3
    PSU
    Corsair 650 CX
    Cooling
    PCS FrostFlow 200 Series High Performance CPU Cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8524
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14500
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M G P WIFI
    Memory
    64GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    Chipset Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 45" Ultragear, Acer 24" 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    5120x1440, 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD (O/S)
    Silicon Power 2TB US75 NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280 SSD (backup)
    Crucial BX500 2TB 3D NAND (2nd backup)
    Seagate 4TB Ironwolf, rotating HDD archive files
    External off-line backup Drives: 2 NVMe 4TB drives in external enclosures
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W
    Case
    LIAN LI LANCOOL 216 E-ATX PC Case
    Cooling
    Lots of fans!
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8524
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Sound Card
    Realtek Embedded
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" HP 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 eD NAND PCIe SSD
    Samsung EVO 990 2TB NVMe Gen4 SSD
    Samsung 2TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    Thermaltake Smart BM3 650W
    Case
    Okinos Micro ATX Case
    Cooling
    Fans
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
@gunrunnerjohn

Always have backup's, But i've just got thing's how i want them.

Just got a second computer with a 2TB drive on that. I'll wait until the second computer is running (Win 11) on SSD,
And play the 2TB HDD which is blank on the new computer.
Do you have any backup tools for recommendations?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Gigabyte
@MiniTool

For the SSD: (OS) i use Acronis, And usually store the image on the HDD and an external drive

For the HDD: Files i want to keep i burn to DVD. Prefer physical backup (DVD) over external drive's (which can fail).
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus ROG Strix
    CPU
    i7 14700KF
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix Z790
    Memory
    32Gb DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    8GB Nvidia Geforce RTX 3050
    Sound Card
    Creative Soundblaster Audigy RX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus VA24EHF
    Screen Resolution
    1080
    Hard Drives
    500Gb Samsung 980
    2TB Seagate Barracuda SATA 3
    PSU
    Corsair 650 CX
    Cooling
    PCS FrostFlow 200 Series High Performance CPU Cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech
Do you have any backup tools for recommendations?
On various computers I use Acronis True Image and Hasleo Backup, both have worked well. I also use Beyond Compare for doing folder clones to my NAS. I keep both an image backup and a file-by-file backup of my most critical files. I also keep multiple backups, including two external drives that are only connected to do the actual backup.

My backups go to separate physical SSD drives and again to an HDD for redundant backup on dissimilar media. The NAS also uses HDD drives.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8524
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14500
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M G P WIFI
    Memory
    64GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    Chipset Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 45" Ultragear, Acer 24" 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    5120x1440, 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD (O/S)
    Silicon Power 2TB US75 NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280 SSD (backup)
    Crucial BX500 2TB 3D NAND (2nd backup)
    Seagate 4TB Ironwolf, rotating HDD archive files
    External off-line backup Drives: 2 NVMe 4TB drives in external enclosures
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W
    Case
    LIAN LI LANCOOL 216 E-ATX PC Case
    Cooling
    Lots of fans!
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8524
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Sound Card
    Realtek Embedded
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" HP 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 eD NAND PCIe SSD
    Samsung EVO 990 2TB NVMe Gen4 SSD
    Samsung 2TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    Thermaltake Smart BM3 650W
    Case
    Okinos Micro ATX Case
    Cooling
    Fans
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security

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