Do I need an anti-virus with Windows 11?


MrYossu

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Sorry if this has been asked before, but I'm confused.

I've been using ESET anti-virus for more years than I care to remember, and have never had any reason to change.

However, since Windows 11 came out, I've noticed a lot of comments from people saying they aren't using an anti-virus at all now. Looking at what ESET offer compared to what Windows 11 does, I'm not actually sure it's offering me much extra.

Anyone able to comment? Thanks
 
Windows Build/Version
Windows 11 22H2 (OS Build 22621.1.1265)

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win11
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
    Motherboard
    Aorus X570 Elite
    Memory
    96Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    2047MB NVIDIA NVS 510
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS PB278 (2560x1440@59Hz), DELL S2721DS (2560x1440@59Hz), F22 (1920x1080@60Hz), DELL E2311H (1920x1080@60Hz)
    Hard Drives
    931GB Force MP600 primary drive
    931GB Western Digital WDC WD10EALX-759BA1 data drive
    5589GB Seagate Backup+ Hub BK SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA)) external backup
    Other Info
    See http://speccy.piriform.com/results/a0tsEUMm6hE5R4aEwpTCg3a for full specs
Defender is a cumbersome AV, but it will do. Give it a try, you will either love it or hate it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 3600 & No fTPM (07/19)
    Motherboard
    MSI B450 TOMAHAWK 7C02v1E & IFX TPM (07/19)
    Memory
    4x 8GB ADATA XPG GAMMIX D10 DDR4 3200MHz CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Radeon RX 580 ARMOR 8G OC @48FPS (08/19)
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Z (11/16)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" AOC G2460VQ6 (01/19)
    Screen Resolution
    1920×1080@75Hz & FreeSync (DisplayPort)
    Hard Drives
    ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro SSD 512GB (07/19)
    PSU
    Seasonic M12II-520 80 Plus Bronze (11/16)
    Case
    Lian Li PC-7NB & 3x Noctua NF-S12A FLX@700rpm (11/16)
    Cooling
    CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U12S@700rpm (07/19)
    Keyboard
    HP Wired Desktop 320K + Rabalux 76017 Parker (01/24)
    Mouse
    Logitech M330 Silent Plus (04/23)
    Internet Speed
    400/40 Mbps via RouterOS (05/21) & TCP Optimizer
    Browser
    Edge (No FB/Google) & Brave for YouTube & LibreWolf for FB
    Antivirus
    NoAV & Binisoft WFC & NextDNS
    Other Info
    Headphones: Sennheiser RS170 (09/10)
    Phone: Samsung Galaxy Xcover 7 (02/24)
Defender is ok, but it is also one of the only EPPs you can disable with a GPO and it's somewhat trivial to bypass it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
There was a point in the past where you wanted more antivirus than one, but NOT running ! Now most people find that Windows Defender is good enough to not pay for others or the free ones do not do what they expect ! I recommend WD to all my clients around the world ! Malware Removal Specialist will use ESET to run a scan after the cleaning of a computer !
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows11 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2428)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP HP ENVY TE01
    CPU
    2.90 gigahertz Intel Core i7-10700
    Motherboard
    Board: HP 8767 A (SMVB)
    Memory
    16214 Megabytes Usable Installed Memor
    Hard Drives
    1511.52 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
    1418.15 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless
    Mouse
    M 185 wireless
    Internet Speed
    12 ms Jitter 8 ms Download 10.5 Mbps Upload 1.7
    Browser
    Edge & FF
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
I personally use AVG Ultimate. But that is just because my internet security is precious to me. Personally if Windows Defender could be all that I use, then that's what I would do. It just does not cut it with some things I need in my life.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Professional (Via VMware)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 220 Processor × 2
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Caicos PRO [Radeon HD 7450] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
    Sound Card
    Nvidia High Definition System Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Phillips TV
    Screen Resolution
    32" TV
    Hard Drives
    222GB SSD
    Keyboard
    Generic Wireless Keyboard
    Mouse
    Custom Wireless Mouse
    Internet Speed
    400 mbps
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Webroot SecureAnywhere
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Professional
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Letsung
    CPU
    Intel Celeron N4020C
    Motherboard
    Intel
    Memory
    6GB DDR4 Ram
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Celeron
    Sound Card
    Nvidia Geforce
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" TV
    Screen Resolution
    24"
    Hard Drives
    500G NVME M2
    Internet Speed
    400mbps
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere Internet Security Complete
Nothing but Windows Defender for me.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Education
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 7773
    CPU
    Intel i7-8550U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce MX150
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
    SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
    Internet Speed
    Fast!
Anyone able to comment?

Totally depends upon your comfort level.

What serves one person well, may not be adequate for another.

Personally, I use the built-in Windows Security, and Malwarebytes Premium.


Of course, a good dose of common sense/sound judgement, while on the net, is your strongest defense. :wink:

All the best.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 22H2 19045.4046
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell/Vostro 470 (Year 2012)
    CPU
    Intel i7-3770 @ 3.40GHz
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD 7500 Radeon HD Series
    Sound Card
    Realtek Hi-Def Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2412M
    Hard Drives
    1 TB 7200 HDD
    Keyboard
    Dell/USB
    Mouse
    Dell/USB
    Internet Speed
    100/10
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Security/MalwareBytes Premium
Of course, a good dose of common sense/sound judgement, while on the net, is your strongest defense. :wink:

I hope I have a bit of that. Glad to say that in all the years of using ESET, I think I've only ever had about two viruses anywhere near my PC, and ESET knocked them on the head straight away. I tend to be fairly cautious about what I open/download, and keep away from the obviously dubious sites. Still, need caution in today's world.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win11
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
    Motherboard
    Aorus X570 Elite
    Memory
    96Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    2047MB NVIDIA NVS 510
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS PB278 (2560x1440@59Hz), DELL S2721DS (2560x1440@59Hz), F22 (1920x1080@60Hz), DELL E2311H (1920x1080@60Hz)
    Hard Drives
    931GB Force MP600 primary drive
    931GB Western Digital WDC WD10EALX-759BA1 data drive
    5589GB Seagate Backup+ Hub BK SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA)) external backup
    Other Info
    See http://speccy.piriform.com/results/a0tsEUMm6hE5R4aEwpTCg3a for full specs
MS Defender and the entire Windows Security suite are more than enough although the UI is not optimal. Nonetheless it's not difficult to tweak the protection in Defender via Powershell, GPO or a nice little app called ConfigureDefender . Add vulnerable programs to Exploit protection and enable Smart App Control.
Totally depends upon your comfort level.
Or just use the default settings and heed Smartscreen warnings.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo IdeaPad L340
    CPU
    Intel Core i3-8145U
    Memory
    8GB
    Internet Speed
    45MB
    Browser
    Firefox | Chrome
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender | Block unknown executables | Various ASR rules enabled
Totally agree with @NavyLCDR

WD all the way.

Windows Defender antivirus is just one part of an overall security suite.

I have not had a single virus for years, and I am not the most super safe person when it come to browsing.

To me, ransomware is the biggest issue. I make regular image backups to protect myself.

By the way version 40 of WD is best thing since Tiger Bread😁.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0
just to clarify something: Windows Defender has been rebranded as Windows Security. There's a new Microsoft Defender that is part of a Microsoft 365 subscription, it provides some extra features including a panel for monitoring all your computers in one place -and identity theft monitoring/protection in the US


 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    "Selene"
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 3600
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte A520I AC Mini ITX AM4
    Memory
    G.Skill Flare X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    Dell OEM RX 5700
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 29UM69G-B 29.0" 1.5X Ultrawide 75 Hz Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p 1.02 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
    Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive
    PSU
    Corsair CX650M 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply
    Case
    Thermaltake Suppressor F1
    Keyboard
    SteelSeries APEX RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Rival 300 Wired Optical Mouse
    Other Info
    SteelSeries Arctis 5 7.1 Channel Headset
Windows Defender seems to work quite well. I have a subscription to Kaspersky, and tried it on this new desktop, but it has a little drag on system performance compared to WD. I will download Webroot and test that out since I have sub for it too. It's nice to let a machine breath, so it can run as fast as it's meant to.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer 1760 UA92
    CPU
    12th Gen i5-12400
    Memory
    16gb Crucial 3200MHz DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    Geforce GTX 1650
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Amazon Omni Fire tv 4K 55"
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    Kingston NVME M.2 1tb
    Samsung 850 1tb sata
    PSU
    300 Watts
    Cooling
    1 Internal Case fans
    Keyboard
    Wireless Logitech
    Internet Speed
    800Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Avast
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    10th Gen i-7, 4-core 8-threads, turbo to 3.9GHz
    Memory
    16gb
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus
    Hard Drives
    500gb M.2
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
I used only Defender with Windows 10, 8.1 and 7. Had a system with HDD storage back then and only 8GB Ram - and since Defender had the lowest resource usage - was good enough for me. Present day... even tho i can agree that Defender is more capable (high enough detection rate to compete with some of the top contenders) - i find it to messy for a modern PC. Seriously, on a system with SSD - doesn't utilize even 30% of CPU while dealing with a treat - "yet, it breaks on a minor threat (goes into a continuous loop with windows notifier - breaking & restarting itself)". Same way it happens/breaks in this video:


To a large extent - beyond an improvement to finding threats - it's still a lot like that outdated version from Windows 7 with very limited info in terms of reports. That being said... it's actually Windows 11 where i chose to switch from Defender to a Free AV (one of the top contenders). Mainly because they're properly optimized & updated to modern standards. Thus, despite of having more functions than Defender - a modern AV does run smoother. Even the impact on resources is not what it used to be (like needing around +200 MB more ram). This days - it's actually Defender who can have an impact on the system (slowing it down - like in above video - while the competition runs smooth as butter).
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 SP 16 (or Windows 11 SP 2 or Sun Valley 2)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    CPU
    Intel & AMD
    Memory
    SO-DIMM SK Hynix 15.8 GB Dual-Channel DDR4-2666 (2 x 8 GB) 1329MHz (19-19-19-43)
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia RTX 2060 6GB Mobile GPU (TU106M)
    Sound Card
    Onbord Realtek ALC1220
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1x Samsung PM981 NVMe PCIe M.2 512GB / 1x Seagate Expansion ST1000LM035 1TB
Windows Security (Defender) for me!
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 15 9510 OLED
    CPU
    11th Gen i9 -11900H
    Memory
    32 GB 3200 MHz DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 3050Ti
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" OLED Infinity Edge Touch
    Screen Resolution
    16:10 Aspect Ratio (3456 x 2160)
    Hard Drives
    1 Terabyte M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
    2 Thunderbolt™ 4 (USB Type-C™)
    1 USB 3.2 Gen 2 (USB Type-C™)
    SD Card Reader (SD, SDHC, SDXC)
    Internet Speed
    900 Mbps Netgear Orbi + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium) + Bing
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    Microsoft 365 subscription
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Microsoft Outlook
    Microsoft OneNote
    Microsoft PowerToys
    Microsoft Visual Studio
    Microsoft Visual Studio Code
    Macrium Reflect
    Dell Support Assist
    Dell Command | Update
    LastPass Password Manager
    Amazon Kindle
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Tablet
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Pro 7
    CPU
    i5
    Memory
    8 GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD
    Internet Speed
    900 Mbps Netgear Orbi + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium) + Bing
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    Microsoft 365 subscription (Office)
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Microsoft Outlook
    Microsoft OneNote
    Microsoft Visual Studio
    Amazon Kindle
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
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