earliest windows version upgradeable to windows 11, with transfer everything


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I thought that my old windows 7 32bit, with lot of usage history and appData is not upgradeable to windows 11, so i left it, and installed clean windows 11.

If i knew what i know now i wouldn't have done that but i would upgrade windows 7 32bit -> windows 11 64bit, transfer userData, programs, settigns.


The main point of this thread is to show how to upgrade inPlace from 32bit to 64bit.
With such knowledge it is possible to gradually update from win 1 -> win 11. But this is mostly for users with 32bit win (7, 8, 10) who want to upgrade to 64bit win 11.

the main switch is occurring in upgrade win 7 x86 -> win 8.0 x64.








[the procedure]
1. ingredients: installed win7 x86 (sp1 better). 2 iso files win 8.0 rtm x86 x64.

2. use all files from iso win 8.0 rtm x86, except one file, install.wim which is overwritten from iso x64. (you need only one file from iso x64, install.wim)

3. while running win7 start sources\installPrep.exe from win 8.0 x86 (with x64 install.wim) setup, up until file transfer dialog where would be offered only one option: Nothing.
3.1. use tool "ShowHideControls_en-us.exe" to unHide radioButton, "transfer files, settings, programs", click on it and press continue.







[aftermath]
upgrade is nearly perfect, or satisfactory good, but has some quirks. i probably haven't seen them all, but here are the ones that i saw.

[pros]
1. application's data (appData, registry) is transferred perfectly, looks like.
2. user data is transfered (user profile, settings, music, picure, video).

[cons]
1. [minor] files in programFiles are transferred to programFiles (x86). not all desktop and startMenu shortcuts are updated to programFIles (x86), so you can do that manually and the the right icon on shortcut reappear. strangely, some shortcuts are half updated, for example path is not, but startIn is.

2. [minor] controlPanel.programs list is kept but some icons are missing. i do not know if uninstaller thinks the program is in programFiles and not in x86, but it could be that just icon is missing. i started repair for one of such programs and installer was launched regularly. registry uninstaller history could be inspected to see if all paths are correct.
for now it looks like that all is working except missing icons, but if something is not ok, and all settings are for programFiles, and installer is looking in programFiles, maybe the application could be moved from programFiles (x86) to programFIles by explorer fileMove.

3. windows settings like desktopBackground, system settings like power, are, looks like, not moved. they are not critical and can be set again.

4. [minor] drivers custom oem1.inf, oem2.inf, ... oem20.inf, are strangely transferred from 32bit, and are unusable here.
you can clean them all by using pnputil [-f][ -d (/delete-drivers).












[info]
I found about this yesterday from the following links:
(original poster is trying but has a little bit of troubles, not much, with english language)

1.

2.
3. 32to64 (CE1CECL) [marked as spam page, strangely]

Up until now i upgraded win7 32bit to win8.0 64bit. i will upgrade further to win11 64bit.
I am not the original poster in upper links, nor any user who replied and commented.
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    msi cr630
    CPU
    AMD Phenom™ II N950 Quad-Core Processor
    Motherboard
    MSI MS-168B, RS880M+SB820M, ICS 9LPRS477CKL
    Memory
    16GB, 2 * G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR3-1600) - P/N: F3-1600C9-8GRSL
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series 1024 MB
    Sound Card
    realtek hd alc269
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" chunghwa CPT CPT14C7 CLAA156WB11A
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    sshd seagate firecuda 2tb ST2000LX001-1RG174 (FW: SDM1),
    ssd samsung 850 evo 500gb [instead of opticalDrive],
    ssd samsung 860 evo 1tb [optional, eSataP]
    Other Info
    https://valid.x86.fr/e8z8pj
OK.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2314
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme+ 4gb Solidigm nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    msi cr630
    CPU
    AMD Phenom™ II N950 Quad-Core Processor
    Motherboard
    MSI MS-168B, RS880M+SB820M, ICS 9LPRS477CKL
    Memory
    16GB, 2 * G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR3-1600) - P/N: F3-1600C9-8GRSL
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series 1024 MB
    Sound Card
    realtek hd alc269
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" chunghwa CPT CPT14C7 CLAA156WB11A
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    sshd seagate firecuda 2tb ST2000LX001-1RG174 (FW: SDM1),
    ssd samsung 850 evo 500gb [instead of opticalDrive],
    ssd samsung 860 evo 1tb [optional, eSataP]
    Other Info
    https://valid.x86.fr/e8z8pj
what is the usage scenario for this ?



Somebody asks for help, that has old p4 unworkable, with lots of lost data. p4 that was working 2004-2016.

1. open p4 case and take out hardDisks.
2. put hdds in hddRack, and take their image. if required, and all sectors could not be read, use hdd tools like sentinel to repair badSectors at hardware level, surface repair (hdd command to use spare sectors instead). then read image.
at this point hdd images are all that matters. real hdds and the whole p4 are obsolete.

3. start hdd vhd images on vmPlayer. upgrade gradually winXp (or some else) -> win11.
4. buy new ssd and write hdd image to ssd.

5. put ssd in your friend new computer and look his happiness, when he has dual boot, and his old computer is revived.
Now it is possible in new win11 environment to look for lost multimedia (images, video), or something else.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    msi cr630
    CPU
    AMD Phenom™ II N950 Quad-Core Processor
    Motherboard
    MSI MS-168B, RS880M+SB820M, ICS 9LPRS477CKL
    Memory
    16GB, 2 * G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR3-1600) - P/N: F3-1600C9-8GRSL
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series 1024 MB
    Sound Card
    realtek hd alc269
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" chunghwa CPT CPT14C7 CLAA156WB11A
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    sshd seagate firecuda 2tb ST2000LX001-1RG174 (FW: SDM1),
    ssd samsung 850 evo 500gb [instead of opticalDrive],
    ssd samsung 860 evo 1tb [optional, eSataP]
    Other Info
    https://valid.x86.fr/e8z8pj
what is the usage scenario for this ?



Somebody asks for help, that has old p4 unworkable, with lots of lost data. p4 that was working 2004-2016.

1. open p4 case and take out hardDisks.
2. put hdds in hddRack, and take their image. if required, and all sectors could not be read, use hdd tools like sentinel to repair badSectors at hardware level, surface repair (hdd command to use spare sectors instead). then read image.
at this point hdd images are all that matters. real hdds and the whole p4 are obsolete.

3. start hdd vhd images on vmPlayer. upgrade gradually winXp (or some else) -> win11.
4. buy new ssd and write hdd image to ssd.

5. put ssd in your friend new computer and look his happiness, when he has dual boot, and his old computer is revived.
Now it is possible in new win11 environment to look for lost multimedia (images, video), or something else.
I'd suggest if you've got a keyboard, mouse and monitor available -- get one of those new MiniPC's -- decent ones can now be had for around €190 -- that's with a 12th Gen Intel N100 4 core CPU at > 3ghz, 16GB of RAM and up to 1TB of internal fast nvme.

While it's fine to use old gear (especially these days) there comes a point when this just becomes a) more expensive, b) unreliable and c) an endless source of frustration as each succeeding version of Windows will throw extra problems into the mix. Plus noise on these mini PC's is almost non existent and power consumption minimal. Those old CPU's consumed an inordinate amount of power too.

Here's one I'm using although running Linux it's--running also a W11 pro VM @8GB RAM hence the use of 10GB RAM - and the W11VM runs perfectly. These machines also run W11 native really OK too.These tiny boxes are hugely under appreciated.


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Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
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